What is good about being in the UK?

Lefty:

I STRONGLY disagree that she is not a moaner.

She is simply attention seeking with these threads and titling them "The sad life of a Polish migrant" is just looking to be negative and in my opinion frankly stupid.

The only reason she wrote a list of good things is because I made this thread in counter to hers (immature as it may have been however she did not even attempt to present a cohesive argument when I challenged her on her points in her threads in fact she wrote something so stupid the mods removed this) and without it she would have said nothing.

This was a knee jerk reaction to try and claw back some popularity from people on her part and I think that this much is obvious!

OsiedleRuda:

But after the above statement, would you really be surprised to encounter resentment? What makes YOUR generation think that you are so much better than my parents and grandparents generation, as they felt it was essential to integrate in their new country, but your generation doesn't?

gumishuThreads: 13 Posts: 3,627 Joined: Apr 6, 09	Edited by: gumishu Oct 17, 09, 21:12 / #
Lefty: I STRONGLY disagree that she is not a moaner. She is simply attention seeking with these threads and titling them "The sad life of a Polish migrant" is just looking to be negative and in my opinion frankly stupid. The only reason she wrote a list of good things is because I made this thread in counter to hers (immature as it may have been however she did not even attempt to present a cohesive argument when I challenged her on her points in her threads in fact she wrote something so stupid the mods removed this) and without it she would have said nothing. This was a knee jerk reaction to try and claw back some popularity from people on her part and I think that this much is obvious! home grown psychologist heheh or a mind reader - but I don't believe in materialist mind readers OsiedleRuda: But after the above statement, would you really be surprised to encounter resentment? What makes YOUR generation think that you are so much better than my parents and grandparents generation, as they felt it was essential to integrate in their new country, but your generation doesn't? it is our choice simply - why should I actually blend in if I don't want to - btw there is really little value in what you can blend into in English culture right now - binge culture? pretty moronic don't you think - going out culture? (it's expensive you know) - what is left then - religion? tradition? - not much that there is there - main Christmas tradition is to get pissed on the Boxing day - hardly anything one should really pursue Do you see the Chinese, Indian, Pakistani people in general blending in?? yes - those who are borne and raised here Lefty: "If you don't like pickled eggs pack your bags and get out!"? well your wording was sort of if you don't like it here go back the thing is the British want us to share our views of their country and then get so very offended if these are not enthusiastic enough - strange don't you think

derek trotterThreads: 12 Posts: 252 Joined: Apr 10, 09	Edited by: derek trotter Oct 17, 09, 21:22 / #
and you wonder why some cheeks when they ask me where I am from turn me down? question to you seamus how many locals would give you a two fingers victory sign in reverse way?

LeftyThreads: 19 Posts: 160 Joined: Jul 23, 09	Oct 17, 09, 21:32 / #
gumishu: home grown psychologist heheh I'm just able to observe the obvious! gumishu: or a mind reader - but I don't believe in materialist mind readers Good for you... and the relevance is? gumishu: well your wording was sort of if you don't like it here go back Yeah well funnily enough! That's because I meant: If you don't like it here then go back!!! gumishu: the thing is the British want us to share our views of their country and then get so very offended if these are not enthusiastic enough - strange don't you think No this is not true. I certainly don't want you to share our views of our country! I just want you to stop moaning about it like a little bith about what is wrong with Britain because we know and don't need you* to tell us anything more or do you think you are more qualified than us on this matter? gumishu: it is our choice simply - why should I actually blend in if I don't want to - btw there is really little value in what you can blend into in English culture right now - binge culture? pretty moronic don't you think - going out culture? (it's expensive you know) - what is left then - religion? tradition? - not much that there is there - main Christmas tradition is to get pissed on the Boxing day - hardly anything one should really pursue Do you see the Chinese, Indian, Pakistani people in general blending in?? yes - those who are borne and raised here It is your choice and you have every right to choose what you want but just don't expect me to be happy about it or agree with it, to be honest I think it's just ignorance! When I come to live in Poland should I behave as you have? How would you feel if I did? Start thinking about what you write before you write it because your arrogance is appalling. As for our culture well yes you are right we may have less to offer that Poland but believe me and mark my words everyday you become a little more westernised so be ready it may be you who has to defend your lack of culture in years to come.

gumishuThreads: 13 Posts: 3,627 Joined: Apr 6, 09	Oct 17, 09, 21:54 / #
Lefty: It is your choice and you have every right to choose what you want but just don't expect me to be happy about it or agree with it, to be honest I think it's just ignorance! When I come to live in Poland should I behave as you have? How would you feel if I did? Start thinking about what you write before you write it because your arrogance is appalling. I can't say anything on behalf of the Polish nation - but I personally would not mind if you insist on keeping your culture (as long as your culture doesn't involve throwing up or **ing on my threshold or chucking empty beer bottles at my windows) - I don't mind other people being different - and hell you can moan as much as you like about Poland - my personal stance is it is often practical to listen to moans cause there can be some reasonable points there (hidden) - but getting emotional about the moans doesn't serve anything Arrogance - oh well - you really like strong words - be it your way if you want strong words I'd say the British are bread as cattle (and most like it that way) - they really love this superiority thing - it's oh so fun to take ** of some stupid Paddys, Pakis (or whatever) - when it turns out that the lack of skill and ambition is on their side (which results in them not having jobs) they just throw tantrums

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Oct 17, 09, 21:57 / #
Paddies and Pakis are pejorative terms, Gumi.

gumishuThreads: 13 Posts: 3,627 Joined: Apr 6, 09	Oct 17, 09, 22:05 / #
Seanus: Paddies and Pakis are pejorative terms, Gumi. well it is not me who is using these - it's average Briton's vocabulary - I have some sympathy toward the Irish and am quite indifferent to Pakistanis in Britain (they have their quirks and some have vices but many of them are good sincere people - I have had experience with both kinds even if it was little experience)

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Oct 17, 09, 22:09 / #
Britain is going to the dogs. Splendid isolation had its merits :)

LeftyThreads: 19 Posts: 160 Joined: Jul 23, 09	Oct 17, 09, 22:12 / #
gumishu: I can't say anything on behalf of the Polish nation - but I personally would not mind if you insist on keeping your culture (as long as your culture doesn't involve throwing up or **ing on my threshold or chucking empty beer bottles at my windows) It's a good answer but there are difference in what you are saying to what we were talking about, basically this is a very one sided circumstance from which you understandably only see one side therefore I will concede your point because as it is impossible to get around this outlook. Rest assured I will integrate into Polish society as it is the proper thing to do. gumishu: I don't mind other people being different Neither do I. gumishu: and hell you can moan as much as you like about Poland I wont bother since I have better things to do with my life. (Like arguing about if it's right or wrong) gumishu: my personal stance is it is often practical to listen to moans cause there can be some reasonable points there (hidden) - but getting emotional about the moans doesn't serve anything I did listen to the moans and some of them I actually agreed with and some I did not but I still say that she was over the top flat out moaning! Even if I did get emotional over this; is it such a bad thing? What? I'm not allowed to be passionate about people slating my country? There was no need for her to go on and on. gumishu: Arrogance - oh well - you really like strong words - be it your way If the cap fits! I'm sorry but if I read the post again I think the same! "Why should I integrate? I don't have to!" Well people don't have to share or be happy either, people don't have to help each other, people don't have to be friendly or civil but the people with this attitude of "I don't have to do it" is whats wrong with the world today. gumishu: if you want strong words I'd say the British are bread as cattle (and most like it that way) hey really love this superiority thing - it's oh so fun to take ** of some stupid Paddys, Pakis (or whatever) On a farm? Nie rozumiem Pan. (Oh wait why am I being polite? I don't have to!) gumishu: when it turns out that the lack of skill and ambition is on their side (which results in them not having jobs) they just throw tantrums Sad but true.

gumishuThreads: 13 Posts: 3,627 Joined: Apr 6, 09	Edited by: gumishu Oct 17, 09, 22:12 / #
as to put some more peaceful tones into the argument which is actually as stupid as calling each other names - just listen to 'Victorialand' by Cocteau Twins - I recommend 'How to bring blush to the snow' :) Enjoy.

gumishuThreads: 13 Posts: 3,627 Joined: Apr 6, 09	Oct 17, 09, 22:45 / #
I think I should have added that it is readily available from youtube just listen to Elisabeth Fraser and enjoy :):):)

OsiedleRuda	Edited by: OsiedleRuda Oct 17, 09, 23:15 / #
gumishu: I have much better opinion of Polish drunks than of English ones ;P ;P "Dobre bo Polskie", no? :p lol ;) gumishu: it's not the words you are supposed to enjoy, stupid :P ;) ok I am pulling your leg here (and there) ;) heh. "Garlands" is much better anyway (so says the ex-Goth :0 lol ) Personally I'm in a pi**ed-off mood so I'm listening to SLAYER. haha Lefty: Any personal favourites? I can't speak for Seanus but I'm a salt & vinegar Kettle Chips man myself :)

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Edited by: Seanus Oct 17, 09, 23:16 / #
Too many to list. Golden Wonder's Worcestershire Sauce Nik Naks (any flavour) McCoys (any) Brannigans (any) Pork Crackles Prawn Cocktail S&V KP Squares Crispy Bacon Kettle Chips too I like virtually all kinds of crisps from home. I can't think of any that I dislike.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Oct 17, 09, 23:28 / #
Handmade crisps tend to be crunchy and full-flavoured. Wotsits are nice too but Cheetos are very similar. I remember driving many people away with Scampi Lemon Nik Naks. That was back in school and you could smell me a mile off with those fingers.

gumishuThreads: 13 Posts: 3,627 Joined: Apr 6, 09	Oct 17, 09, 23:35 / #
OsiedleRuda: heh. "Garlands" is much better anyway (so says the ex-Goth :0 lol ) that Goth thing explains everything :P I haven't heard the whole 'Garland' album - some pieces are too heavy but I like 'Shallow then halo' (from time to time) - but would prefer 'Quisquose' any day

OsiedleRuda	Oct 17, 09, 22:59 / #
gumishu: as to put some more peaceful tones into the argument which is actually as stupid as calling each other names - just listen to 'Victorialand' by Cocteau Twins - I recommend 'How to bring blush to the snow' :) Enjoy. But will anyone understand the words?? mnamananamanana sugar hiccup :) gumishu: it is our choice simply - why should I actually blend in if I don't want to - btw there is really little value in what you can blend into in English culture right now - binge culture? pretty moronic don't you think - going out culture? (it's expensive you know) - what is left then - religion? tradition? - not much that there is there - main Christmas tradition is to get pissed on the Boxing day - hardly anything one should really pursue No, of course you don't have to fit in - but as I said earlier, expect resentment if you don't. The 200 000+ Poles who were here before the current generation exercised their "rights", had assimilated so well, that no-one even noticed us - even though most of us managed to retain our Polish culture. And is a drunken Briton staggering out of a pub really that much worse than a group of Polish losers huddling up against a fence with a few bags of Tyskie? A drunk's a drunk!

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Oct 17, 09, 23:07 / #
Crisps. I love the range of crisps that the UK has. Streets ahead of almost any other country in this regard.

gumishuThreads: 13 Posts: 3,627 Joined: Apr 6, 09	Edited by: gumishu Oct 17, 09, 23:09 / #
OsiedleRuda: And is a drunken Briton staggering out of a pub really that much worse than a group of Polish losers huddling up against a fence with a few bags of Tyskie? A drunk's a drunk! I have much better opinion of Polish drunks than of English ones ;P ;P (well I don't mean the younger generation of Poles who I am personally affraid of) OsiedleRuda: But will anyone understand the words?? mnamananamanana sugar hiccup :) it's not the words you are supposed to enjoy, stupid :P ;) ok I am pulling your leg here (and there) ;)

LeftyThreads: 19 Posts: 160 Joined: Jul 23, 09	Oct 17, 09, 23:12 / #
Seanus: Crisps. I love the range of crisps that the UK has. Streets ahead of almost any other country in this regard. Any personal favourites?

LeftyThreads: 19 Posts: 160 Joined: Jul 23, 09	Oct 17, 09, 23:24 / #
OsiedleRuda: I'm a salt & vinegar Kettle Chips man myself They taste good but the texture is strange... too brittle for me. Seanus: McCoys (any) Seanus: KP Squares Both excellent choices but I have found something new... in the shop in my village there are some lovely crisps that just have 'Handmade Crisps' written on them and they are the bomba. I especially like the spicy ones :D

LeftyThreads: 19 Posts: 160 Joined: Jul 23, 09	Oct 17, 09, 23:30 / #
Let's not forget Pringles ;) oh and Quavers!

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Edited by: Seanus Oct 17, 09, 23:36 / #
Pringles are addictive too. Quavers, are they still on the go? What are those stick-like crisps called, S&V things? KP Sticks? Monster Munch and Space Raiders :)

OsiedleRuda	Oct 17, 09, 23:37 / #
You lot have just reminded me that I've got a load of Quavers in the wardrobe (one of the few good things about being ill - you lose your appetite, so you can eat what you want, and not put on weight, lol). crunch! lol

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Edited by: Seanus Oct 17, 09, 23:54 / #
I didn't mention Hula Hoops. They are close to the best. The wasabi crisps from the internet cafe in Japan were the best :) Highly addictive!

RevokeLisbon	Oct 18, 09, 00:14 / #
Seanus: Monster Munch and Space Raiders Try Banshee Bones from Perri! Bleeding delicous.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Oct 18, 09, 00:18 / #
What flavours are they, RN?

RevokeLisbon	Oct 18, 09, 00:25 / #
Seanus: What flavours are they, RN? RL, now. Salt and Vinegar. I can almost taste the salt in my mouth whilst thinking of them. Laced with salt they are. My local shop stale or stolen used to do twenty for a pound when I was a young 'un. About ten years ago.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Oct 18, 09, 00:26 / #
S&V are legendary, RL

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,892 Joined: May 17, 07	Oct 18, 09, 00:27 / #
Lefty: What is good about being in the UK? The weather.

RevokeLisbon	Oct 18, 09, 00:28 / #
Seanus: S&V are legendary, RL The food of kings, Seanus. Good batched bread smoothered with butter and a packet of really salty crisps is manna from heaven when you are dying with a hangover. Washed down with a tall glass of milk. Can you get S & V over there? The eastern euros dont seem to like 'em. Couldnt get them in CZ. Ready Salted just doesnt cut the mustard.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Oct 18, 09, 00:30 / #
Now you're talkin :) No, no S&V here, even though English week starts in LIDL's tomorrow. The Poles are not big on crisps.