Immigration crisis in yorkshire

EASTERN European immigration into Yorkshire is creating a cocktail of slum housing, school bullying, abuse of the NHS, anti-social behaviour and a "constant undercurrent of hostility", a detailed investigation has found.
Schools and hospitals have been left underprepared for the influx of immigrants from Poland, Latvia and Eastern European countries, and in many cases have been left to fend for themselves because of a lack of Government support.

noimmigration	Edited by: Moderator Dec 20, 08, 18:02 / #
Yorkshire Post Article EASTERN European immigration into Yorkshire is creating a cocktail of slum housing, school bullying, abuse of the NHS, anti-social behaviour and a "constant undercurrent of hostility", a detailed investigation has found. Schools and hospitals have been left underprepared for the influx of immigrants from Poland, Latvia and Eastern European countries, and in many cases have been left to fend for themselves because of a lack of Government support. tut tut when will it end

PolskaDollThreads: 44 Posts: 4,134 Joined: Jun 15, 07	Dec 20, 08, 18:13 / #
It's a bit of a worry that a government who supported and expected an influx of migrants from the newly appointed EU countries, were not prepared for it. That in itself is not the fault of any immigrants but the fault of the ruling body who said "yeah come on over, we've got everything, can give you everything..." I sincerely doubt those hospitals and school in the article were left to "fend for themselves" because it's actually "not allowed". They'd have support somehow and somewhere. A hospital is not allowed to "flounder" for example. Resources would be sourced even if it took a few days.

Shawn_H	Dec 20, 08, 18:18 / #
noimmigration: when will it end When you stop reading trashy tabloids.

PolskaDollThreads: 44 Posts: 4,134 Joined: Jun 15, 07	Dec 20, 08, 18:23 / #
Shawn_H: When you stop reading trashy tabloids. It's true but he's not the only one reading them and in a way, it's good that trash articles like that are brought to the wider public eye. Yes, this is the sort of nonsense printed here.

10iwonka10Threads: - Posts: 74 Joined: Aug 21, 08	Dec 21, 08, 10:54 / #
noimmigration: tut tut when will it end Very soon. With growing unemployment and law value of pound....you are not 'such a big catch' any more.

VaFunkooloThreads: 7 Posts: 823 Joined: Mar 24, 08	Dec 21, 08, 11:02 / #
PolskaDoll: A hospital is not allowed to "flounder" for example Oh, you'd be suprised - The English government has allowed hospitals to flounder for years, same with schools - nothing new there

ArcticPaulThreads: 49 Posts: 245 Joined: Apr 7, 08	Dec 21, 08, 11:59 / #
It's not our fellow Europeans that create the problems. The vast majority of Britains Immigration problems are due to Asian and African newcomers. They bring little but illnesses that were erradicated a century ago and terrible attitudes, work ethics and alien religious concepts (Female circumcision and honour killings to name just two). A 'United States of Europe' could be a wonderful place. The best on earth! But we need to unify against the common threat of being flooded by these totally alien cultures.

away guyThreads: 12 Posts: 392 Joined: Mar 16, 07	Dec 21, 08, 12:16 / #
noimmigration: tut tut when will it end This will never end. We can forget it .. the whole world is mixed up with, in every country you will fing the natives complaning about forenigers that are taking up jobs and benifits that are for the local people. Its crazy but true. In the UK they are flooded with Asians and Africans then cam all the Europeans .....to work. Now in Poland i can already see many ilegal forenigers entering and doing ilegal work here eg: drugs, paid marriages and more. Even in Africa some time ago Zimbabwe's president stupid mugabe was killing his own people so they fled to South Africa and took their benifits so the SA locals burnt some zimbabweans and so it goes on ......................

Mister HThreads: 11 Posts: 845 Joined: Jan 4, 08	Edited by: Mister H Dec 21, 08, 17:48 / #
"Many schools in the region are being swamped with children of economic migrants, many of whom just turn up on the doorstep in the morning. One teacher described how one day she arrived at her school in Hull to find 28 Polish children standing on the doorstep. At the start of 2007, it was having three unannounced arrivals a week." Their parents should be ashamed of themselves. PolskaDoll: I sincerely doubt those hospitals and school in the article were left to "fend for themselves" because it's actually "not allowed". They'd have support somehow and somewhere. A hospital is not allowed to "flounder" for example. Resources would be sourced even if it took a few days. What proof do you have that that's the case ?

PolskaDollThreads: 44 Posts: 4,134 Joined: Jun 15, 07	Dec 21, 08, 17:56 / #
Mister H: What proof do you have that that's the case ? None, that's why I didn't post any. I could research it of course but the way the NHS at the moment, it will take a long time. What happens up here is when a hospital costs the NHS too much they sell it to a developer and they make flats out of it. Same with schools. Tell me though, how does a hospital fend for itself? That's the one part of the article I didn't get. Just how does an NHS hospital fend for itself?

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,213 Joined: Nov 16, 06	Dec 21, 08, 19:25 / #
Mister H: I'm assuing that they mean they have been given no extra funding How is that possible ? Don't all the employees pay health insurence and that money later goes to hospitals ?

davidpeakeThreads: 18 Posts: 515 Joined: Nov 7, 06	Dec 22, 08, 01:45 / #
Grzegorz_: How is that possible ? Don't all the employees pay health insurence and that money later goes to hospitals ? Just like all the money i pay to the health system here in Poland, I'm sure it all goes directly to the run down hospitals.

10iwonka10Threads: - Posts: 74 Joined: Aug 21, 08	Dec 22, 08, 15:34 / #
Mister H: The Government had its head in the sand over immigration long before places like Poland joined the EU. Anyone with any common-sense could have seen that something like this would have happened with the NHS, but the Government chose to ignore the obvious warning signs. I envisage the NHS ending up the health service for foreigners and very poor British people. Anyone on a half-decent wage will go private. That is sad but I must agree with you. I guess it is better in Poland as we don't have so many emigrants, asylum seekers so polish health system copes better. But private?- it is expensive .....Or it will end up like in USA private insurance? And later people arguing with insurance companies about any treatment, drug...

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Dec 22, 08, 15:48 / #
Another way to snag the British taxpayer. Altruism shouldn't be forced, just encouraged!!

Mister HThreads: 11 Posts: 845 Joined: Jan 4, 08	Dec 21, 08, 18:07 / #
PolskaDoll: Tell me though, how does a hospital fend for itself? That's the one part of the article I didn't get. Just how does an NHS hospital fend for itself? I'm assuing that they mean they have been given no extra funding, staff or resources to deal with so many more people. They have no power to turn people away or invoice someone who isn't British for the treatment they receive. They just have to get on with it with what they have available. NHS resources have been stretched for years, mainly due to poor management of funds by over-paid Executives. Now these resources have to go three or four times as far to cater for all the extra nationalities that are entitled to use the system. The Government had its head in the sand over immigration long before places like Poland joined the EU. Anyone with any common-sense could have seen that something like this would have happened with the NHS, but the Government chose to ignore the obvious warning signs. I envisage the NHS ending up the health service for foreigners and very poor British people. Anyone on a half-decent wage will go private.

CheeryThreads: 27 Posts: 216 Joined: Nov 17, 08	Dec 22, 08, 16:32 / #
Altruism doesn't exist.. it's bollocks, full stop.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Edited by: Seanus Dec 22, 08, 16:34 / #
Altruism does exist, you just have to look hard to find it these days :(

CheeryThreads: 27 Posts: 216 Joined: Nov 17, 08	Dec 22, 08, 16:39 / #
Seanus: Altruism does exist, you just have to look hard to find it these days :( You know what I'm talking about.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Dec 22, 08, 16:41 / #
Well, put like that ;)

sagitarius29Threads: - Posts: 1 Joined: Jan 21, 09	Jan 21, 09, 10:39 / #
Trasch in West Yorkshire are mostlyBritish teenagers breaking to cars and houses they are problem not Poles.