What is in Poland that England doesn't have?

Some new sort of tuition fee has come in over the last couple of years where it is paid directly out of student loans, I think. Notice that a student loan is a kind of loan, so eventually it does have to be paid back. I don't suppose it's enough to live off either.

BartolomeThreads: 2 Posts: 1,342 Joined: Sep 14, 06	Edited by: Bartolome Sep 29, 08, 07:30 / #
Daisy: I hope you didn't use it to exterminate them... I am tempted sometimes. But then all that fuss with removing blood stains, repairing bodywork etc. discourages me.

ParisJazzThreads: 2 Posts: 196 Joined: Oct 23, 07	Sep 29, 08, 08:26 / #
Lodz_The_Boat: whats there in Poland which is not present/found/felt in England. A sense of resigned acceptance and the sense that something dreadful bordering on the absurd is just about to occur whenever I stand in front of any clerk or get in touch with any customer service in Poland (or anywhere east of Berlin for that matter). PJ

Lodz_The_BoatThreads: 57 Posts: 2,316 Joined: Sep 7, 08	Sep 29, 08, 08:31 / #
ParisJazz: PJ Having fun?

ParisJazzThreads: 2 Posts: 196 Joined: Oct 23, 07	Sep 29, 08, 08:35 / #
Lodz_The_Boat: Having fun? Play the ball, not the man. PJ

10iwonka10Threads: - Posts: 74 Joined: Aug 21, 08	Sep 29, 08, 13:04 / #
Lodz_The_Boat: Actually he lays out a point that England have a diverse cuisine. There you find more for various tastes... while Poland dont have it so much ... It has- Visit Krakow,Warsaw....There are lots of different ( French, Spanish, Italian,Chinese, Indian..) restaurants. There is one thing - in Poland you can go to bar Mleczny and have tasty, freshly cooked cheap meal. In England good quality , freshly cooked food is in rather expensive restaurants in average and cheaper ones food is not very nice..... And don't tell me about pub food- awful, greasy, processed burger pies....

szarlotkaThreads: 14 Posts: 3,340 Joined: Feb 20, 07	Sep 29, 08, 13:07 / #
10iwonka10: And don't tell me about pub food- awful, greasy, processed burger pies.... The food in my local is very, very good. All fresh produce and good qaulity meat. Maybe I'm just lucky

10iwonka10Threads: - Posts: 74 Joined: Aug 21, 08	Sep 29, 08, 13:16 / #
Maybe you are lucky- near me there was nice Italian restaurant ( small family business) with very good food- But unfortunately it is closed now..... But most of these chain pubs- from my experience -don't have good food.

szarlotkaThreads: 14 Posts: 3,340 Joined: Feb 20, 07	Sep 29, 08, 13:21 / #
10iwonka10: But most of these chain pubs- from my experience -don't have good food. I agree with you. My local is a free house owned by a guy who wants to avoid a cardiac arrest so he only serves good but reasonably priced food. It's easy to eat badly in the UK. Mind you we don't serve lard up with the bread! I'll never forgot when I mistook it for butter

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,899 Joined: May 17, 07	Edited by: southern Sep 29, 08, 15:21 / #
Bartolome: What is in Poland that England dont have? Caluski i buziaczci.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Sep 29, 08, 15:33 / #
Och, ukpolska, u had to go and spoil it ;) Bcoz production stopped in 2000 doesn't mean that they aren't still in circulation. Ever heard of 1960's classics? They don't disappear from the face of the planet.

welshguyinpolaThreads: 31 Posts: 450 Joined: Jan 9, 08	Edited by: welshguyinpola Sep 29, 08, 16:26 / #
What do we have in Poland that's not in England? 1) free higher education 2) real winter (you know, with snow, ice and frost) 3) forests - an English forest looks like a Polish park 4) good bread in every shop 5) żubrówka Enlighten me. Since when have we had to pay for higher ed in the UK? As far as I can remember mine was completely free. Only the richer students have to pay for it..... and so they should. One thing we have in Wales which isn't in Poland nor indeed the rest of the UK, are free prescriptions for all regardless of age. Also, the snowy winters in Poland sre slowly disappearing. For two years there has not been substantial snowfall.

SwiteziankaThreads: - Posts: 525 Joined: Jun 17, 08	Sep 29, 08, 17:35 / #
welshguyinpola: welshguyinpola And can you study at top British unis free? I don't think so... welshguyinpola: Also, the snowy winters in Poland sre slowly disappearing. For two years there has not been substantial snowfall. Oh, yeah, two years prove a climatic change. How about three years ago? - 20 C and heaps of snow everywhere. How often is there such winter in Britain?

LAGirlThreads: 13 Posts: 598 Joined: Apr 11, 08	Sep 29, 08, 20:22 / #
you guys are its looks like a commercial adverstising for your counmtries. I think England and Poland are very beautiful places.

ukpolskaThreads: 51 Posts: 2,159 Joined: Oct 23, 06 MEMBER	Edited by: ukpolska Sep 30, 08, 00:36 / #
RubasznyRumcajs: LOL are you always so arrogant? Yep, especially when there is a stupid opinion like that that! Seanus: ASDA specials are classy, I love their curries Then you obviously have a different standard to most people then Seanus. sorry belated smiley here :)

BartolomeThreads: 2 Posts: 1,342 Joined: Sep 14, 06	Sep 29, 08, 15:43 / #
southern: Bartolome: What is in Poland that England dont have? Caluski i buziaczci. I never asked that question. I only give answers.

RubasznyRumcajsThreads: 9 Posts: 281 Joined: Mar 29, 08	Sep 29, 08, 16:31 / #
ukpolska: What can you expect from a person who has gone the UK on a budget and lived on ASDA specials for food lol LOL are you always so arrogant?

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Sep 29, 08, 17:09 / #
ASDA specials are classy, I love their curries

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07	Edited by: osiol Sep 29, 08, 20:45 / #
welshguyinpola: Since when have we had to pay for higher ed in the UK? Some new sort of tuition fee has come in over the last couple of years where it is paid directly out of student loans, I think. Notice that a student loan is a kind of loan, so eventually it does have to be paid back. I don't suppose it's enough to live off either. When I was a student (a couple and a bit years ago), I received a grant which was means-tested by my parents' incomes. They did count my mother's pension as income, but it did cover the tuition fees. It was a long time ago though, and I p!ssed all the money away and failed my course, so you shouldn't ask me anyway. Switezianka: heaps of snow everywhere You didn't see England around easter this year.

MatyjaszThreads: 2 Posts: 1,786 Joined: Jul 20, 06	Sep 30, 08, 04:33 / #
Seanus: It's just a matter of preference. There is nothing quite like fish&chips after not having had them for some time!! Bangers and mash, mince and tatties, quality stuff. Polish food is great too. Here, here! After I came back from Italy I welcomed simple potatoes with kotlet schabowy and surówka as if it was creal de la cream of world cuisine. Italians are pasta perverts I tell ya! As for abundance of Maluch's on Polish roads these days.... I f you think that there are a lot of them you should have seen the place ten years ago! ;) 10iwonka10: dnz: Personally I think the Polish countryside is dull and boring well wielkopolskie anyway. Its so flat and really isn't that pretty What about Bieszczady: What dnz had in mind was Wielkopolska. Coming from that place I can confirm that it's basically flat. It's not the most spectacular region of Poland. I like it here but I can imagine why some people could call the countryside dull.

McCoyThreads: 46 Posts: 1,755 Joined: Jul 3, 08	Edited by: McCoy Sep 30, 08, 07:46 / #
What is in Poland that England dont have? that would be me and my endless awesomeness

Lodz_The_BoatThreads: 57 Posts: 2,316 Joined: Sep 7, 08	Sep 30, 08, 09:17 / #
McCoy: McCoy Why must you use bad lanaguage (in any way).

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,899 Joined: May 17, 07	Sep 30, 08, 09:46 / #
ParisJazz: and the sense that something dreadful bordering on the absurd is just about to occur whenever I stand in front of any clerk or get in touch with any customer service in Poland Like seeing the boobs of the clerk?

ShelleySThreads: 18 Posts: 3,647 Joined: Jun 26, 07	Sep 30, 08, 10:52 / #
welshguyinpola: Since when have we had to pay for higher ed in the UK? As far as I can remember mine was completely free. Only the richer students have to pay for it..... For a very long time, fees average from £3k - £ 4.5k per year depending on what you do. welshguyinpola: One thing we have in Wales which isn't in Poland nor indeed the rest of the UK, are free prescriptions for all regardless of age. NI is soon to follow and then Scots, only England will be paying in a couple of years!!! Matyjasz: Italians are pasta perverts I tell ya! Thats the funniest thing Ive heard in ages :))

10iwonka10Threads: - Posts: 74 Joined: Aug 21, 08	Sep 30, 08, 13:00 / #
Matyjasz: What dnz had in mind was Wielkopolska. Coming from that place I can confirm that it's basically flat. It's not the most spectacular region of Poland. I like it here but I can imagine why some people could call the countryside dull. It is a bit like Lincolnshire fens- also flat and boring. But after visiting just Lincolnshire I wouldn't say that "English countryside is dull and boring"

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07	Sep 30, 08, 13:11 / #
10iwonka10: after visiting just Lincolnshire I wouldn't say that "English countryside is dull and boring" The mistake I made was assuming that because I have travelled across Poland (in a linear fashion) a couple of times along major roads, I could give some sort of opinion about what the countryside is like. Poland has flat bits, mountainy bits, boggy bits, woody bits, big farms, little farms and a variety of urban areas ranging from tiny to really quite big. England has flat bits, hilly bits (you have to go to Wales or Scotland for mountains). It has big wide open places as flat as a pancake with endless fields and endless skies (like much of East Anglia, the East Midlands and so on). It also has little patchworks of woodlands and fields with little windy country lanes like you find in parts of the south. Then there are the wilder areas like the North York Moors, the Peak District, the Cheviots or Dartmoor. I believe someone has already mentioned some of our henges. You can't beat a good henge. I happen to love the countryside, but having lived there as much as I have, it can be a boring place to live, especially if you can't get out. I like big cities, urban and industrial landscapes, modern architecture and old cobbled streets they forgot to tarmac over. I have never seen a man on a bicycle leading a cow down the road on a leash in England.

welshguyinpolaThreads: 31 Posts: 450 Joined: Jan 9, 08	Sep 30, 08, 16:30 / #
Some new sort of tuition fee has come in over the last couple of years where it is paid directly out of student loans, I think. Notice that a student loan is a kind of loan, so eventually it does have to be paid back. I don't suppose it's enough to live off either. Of course mr donkey ur correct, not many students these days can afford to live without taking out a student loan, but it is the same in Poland. My brother has just started Uni and because my parents are earning under a certain wage limit, they didnt have to pay anything. Don't quote me on this but I think the limit is around 20,000 per annum. Tuition fees are means tessted and if parents are rich why shouldnt they pay? Also in Wales now we have something called an assembly learning grant which basically means help for students to the sum of around 1800 GBP a year. Dunno if this is just Wales or whether eng ppl can get it too.

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07	Edited by: osiol Sep 30, 08, 17:03 / #
welshguyinpola: Tuition fees are means tessted I thought everyone had to pay tuition fees - no means testing involved. It now comes out of the student loan. It is curious that once a young adult decides to start higher education, they are looked upon as a child. Parents have no legal obligation to pay a single penny, but their income is still taken into consideration. Vocational courses have always had to be paid for out of the student's pocket (or at least I think so). 12, 15, 18 years old for various films. 16 for cigarettes (or has this changed yet?) 18 for alcohol and pornography ?? for not having one's parents' incomes means-tested for university funding? When am I entitled to wear slippers? My soon to be ex-lodger (Polish) wears slippers and he's only 20. That's just not the British way! Is this one of the differences we are supposed to be highlighting in this thread?

ShelleySThreads: 18 Posts: 3,647 Joined: Jun 26, 07	Oct 1, 08, 07:44 / #
osiol: I thought everyone had to pay tuition fees They do. osiol: When am I entitled to wear slippers? In the privacy of your own home and even to pop to the shops if you are so inclined. osiol: My soon to be ex-lodger (Polish) wears slippers and he's only 20. That's just not the British way! Is this one of the differences we are supposed to be highlighting in this thread Housecoat and slippers! of course it's the British way!

LAGirlThreads: 13 Posts: 598 Joined: Apr 11, 08	Oct 1, 08, 19:25 / #
Brits and Poles stop fighting LOL

z_dariusThreads: 22 Posts: 5,091 Joined: Oct 18, 07	Oct 1, 08, 22:01 / #
welshguyinpola: One thing we have in Wales which isn't in Poland nor indeed the rest of the UK, are free prescriptions for all regardless of age. Unless you go to a private clinic, prescriptions are free in Poland and in the rest of the UK.