Any Irish have child with Polish partners?

irishdeano:

The questions i think the best thing to do with your child would be you speak to it in english and Your partner speaks to the child only in polish. This will mean that the child will know both langs fluent. I think thats the best bet but its up to you
hope it helps

irishdeanoThreads: 11 Posts: 492 Joined: Oct 23, 07	Aug 12, 09, 23:36 / #
welshguyinpola: Obviously didnt read the posts very well, I never said there shouldnt be Polish ppl in Ireland, I said if there are Polish ppl in Ireland they should go to Irish schools. They are actually schools which run at weekends so children can learn polish. If you lived in poland especialy with a welsh lady you would also want your child to learn english or even welsh. Polish parents will go back one day its no good there children not being able to speak polish. Use your brain to think why they would want to go to polish school

welshguyinpolaThreads: 32 Posts: 462 Joined: Jan 9, 08	Aug 12, 09, 23:44 / #
irishdeano: They are actually schools which run at weekends so children can learn polish Ok so send them to one of these weekend schools. My child goes to a Polish preschool, I live in Poland but at home i read in english with my child and will teach him to write when the time is right. So when we move back to UK my child will be well equipped to cope in UK without having been to an English speaking school. Its all about the parents deano. Its a fact that Polish ppl do not integrate and this will push them further apart from the native community. Shall we start to build french German and Portugese schools as well?

irishdeanoThreads: 11 Posts: 492 Joined: Oct 23, 07	Aug 12, 09, 23:52 / #
welshguyinpola: Its all about the parents deano Yep if you read my post above that one. I said that he should speak to the child in english and she should in polish See irishdeano: The questions i think the best thing to do with your child would be you speak to it in english and Your partner speaks to the child only in polish. This will mean that the child will know both langs fluent. I think thats the best bet but its up to you hope it helps

welshguyinpolaThreads: 32 Posts: 462 Joined: Jan 9, 08	Aug 13, 09, 00:27 / #
irishdeano: Yep if you read my post above that one. I said that he should speak to the child in english and she should in polish There you go then, th point im trying to make is that if the parents are attentive the Polish child could go to an English speaking school and still knolw Polish well. This elaiminates the need for Polish school and would stop the alienation of these children

irishdeanoThreads: 11 Posts: 492 Joined: Oct 23, 07	Aug 13, 09, 00:31 / #
welshguyinpola: There you go then, th point im trying to make is that if the parents are attentive the Polish child could go to an English speaking school and still knolw Polish well. This elaiminates the need for Polish school and would stop the alienation of these children Theres 1000's of english schools in poland

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 [Suspended]	Aug 13, 09, 00:57 / #
Welshguy, sorry, Polskaguy, you never heard of the Willy Brandt school here? I can't stand people like you who can't stand the idea that because they can't afford private schools, there shouldn't be any for anybody. Let's face facts: if you could afford it, your kid would be at an English-speaking private school.

welshguyinpolaThreads: 32 Posts: 462 Joined: Jan 9, 08	Aug 13, 09, 01:17 / #
Harry: Let's face facts: if you could afford it, your kid would be at an English-speaking private school. In fact harry I am pretty rich my business www.czekoladowyraj.com brings me a pretty good income and I could well afford to send my kid to the american school in gdynia. I choose not to so that he will meet Polish friends and not fell alienated when he goes to his secondary school. How can you not stand me when you havent met me? I am 100% welsh but am sending my child to a Polish state school so he can integrate. Are you not a fan of integration Harry??

PierogiThreads: - Posts: 64 Joined: Aug 1, 09	Edited by: Pierogi Aug 13, 09, 01:23 / #
welshguyinpola: Its a fact that Polish ppl do not integrate and this will push them further apart from the native community. No, it is not a "fact" that Polish people do not integrate; we have been here for over 60 years (there were nearly 250000 of us befure Poland entered the EU, but few Britlish people even realised this), but it is only since 2004 that there has been a large influx of new Poles. Previous generations of Polish immigrants integrated so well, that we were barely noticeable. I was brought up in a bilingual family, and have had professional and social contact with many thousands of Poles over the years, in half a dozen UK cities and abroad, so I know what I'm talking about. Currently, the community is much more noticable, due to increased numbers, but a minority have no interest in integration - and these tend to be the thick ones who would be unemployable in Poland, never mind in the UK, and who struggled with Matura in Poland, so they are hardly going to become fluent in English very easily. The days of mostly intelligent, highly educated immigrants "escaping oppression" in Poland are long gone, and recent immigrants represent a much wider cross-section of PL society - which naturally means a lot more "bad" ones have come over recently as well. As a result, many can't and don't assimilate, or are unlikely to. But this is NOT the majority of Poles.

welshguyinpolaThreads: 32 Posts: 462 Joined: Jan 9, 08	Aug 13, 09, 01:26 / #
Pierogi: Pierogi I agree with u there but dont u also think sending children to a POlish state school in Ireland will only go to further alienate the children form the community??

PierogiThreads: - Posts: 64 Joined: Aug 1, 09	Aug 13, 09, 01:31 / #
welshguyinpola: I agree with u there but dont u also think sending children to a POlish state school in Ireland will only go to further alienate the children form the community?? Yes, this is unacceptable; they should go to an Irish state school, learning an English/Gaelic curriculum, and take Polish at GCSE level only as an option, and/or learn the language outside regular school hours (as my generation had to).

madpsychocatThreads: - Posts: 15 Joined: Jul 30, 09	Aug 13, 09, 14:04 / #
Hi Trevorisimo, the child is half Irish/half Polish, make sure they celebrate and accept both sides. I'm portuguese and have 2 children in UK to english mother. They themselves identify as half portuguese and proud of it. My only regret is not teaching them portuguese from an earlier age, but they have a thirst for it themselves. With a polish mother I expect that won't be the case. I don't use my language unless I go back, whilst polish is much more widely used here (more people, friends etc). The link between mother/baby is stronger and I expect she already speaks in polish to the baby. Children can learn languages very easily, exposure to the language is half the battle.

kevinomalleyThreads: - Posts: 1 Joined: Nov 17, 09	Nov 17, 09, 20:38 / #
hi trevor iam kevin also irish and like you i have a little boy with my polish girlfriend hes 16 months old and for now we devide our time between poland and england where i live. i have concerns like yourself but as lond as hes happy and healthy wer sure he will speak both polish and english,by the way when ireland play football hes irish when poland lays hes polish and when they play each other he wins.drop me a line and all good wishes for a happy future from kevin ania and charlie

WooPeeThreads: 3 Posts: 133 Joined: Jul 1, 08	Edited by: WooPee Nov 18, 09, 01:47 / #
welshguyinpola: A Polish school in Ireland is insane, they should be made to integrate. Are all Welsh guys so opposite to some extra education? RevokeNice Irish schools are not secular. The influence of church is everywhere. Polish education system is secular which makes it better.

welshguyinpolaThreads: 32 Posts: 462 Joined: Jan 9, 08	Aug 13, 09, 01:36 / #
Pierogi: Yes, this is unacceptable; they should go to an Irish state school, learning an English/Gaelic curriculum, and take Polish at GCSE level only as an option, and/or learn the language outside regular school hours (as my generation had to). Glad someone is seeing some logic here. People on this rhread seem to think Im Pole bashing because Im against the idea of a Polish state school in Ireland

trevorisimoThreads: 2 Posts: 30 Joined: Jul 20, 08	Aug 14, 09, 10:52 / #
Before everyone loses control, its not a full Polish school, its only saturday school so that the children can can talk to other polish children, learn about polish history and talk about current polish events, he will go to regular school monday to friday. From the posts RevokeNice wrote, I believe he should have been denied oxygen at birth, quite a bitter fellow in my opinion. Also what I hate is the American schools in Poland, I do believe that foreigners in Poland should send their children to polish schools in Poland. I dont like these type of elitist schools which are expensive and not much better than the average. Its not about not being able to afford it, its about bringing up your child as normal as possible, and not turning them into stuckup git. I met up with another Irish guy in Warsaw, English teacher, he did also advise that I speak to Grzes in English and Anna to him in Polish as he said he done the same and his 3 yr old daughter can speak both languages on the same level almost. Looks like my thread died a horrible death lol. Thanks everyone for your response though, appreciate it.