What is it with black culture in the UK?

PEOPLE INVESTIGATION: JUNKIE ST
Shocking plight of the street where law abiding families are too scared to go out 915 crimes in 7 months.. 3 murders in 8 weeks.. 4 stabbings, muggings, burglaries or thefts EVERY DAY on the most dangerous road in Britain

dtaylor5632Threads: 34 Posts: 2,274 Joined: May 2, 09 Gender: Male GOLD MEMBER	Jun 11, 09, 20:23 / #1
I'm not usually one to judge people by race, but more and more I hear news about knife crime, murders and gang culture in the larger cities. Any answers?

VincentThreads: 13 Posts: 991 Joined: Sep 9, 07 Gender: Male [Moderator]	Jun 11, 09, 20:30 / #2
dtaylor5632: I'm not usually one to judge people by race, but more and more I hear news about knife crime, murders and gang culture in the larger cities. Any answers? I'm not one to judge people by race either, but I would say some of the crime may be "drugs" related.

SeanBMThreads: 35 Posts: 6,253 Joined: Mar 10, 08 Gender: Male	Edited by: SeanBM Jun 11, 09, 20:32 / #3
Vincent: but I would say some of the crime may be "drugs" related. Too much or too little or just like an uncle?.

VincentThreads: 13 Posts: 991 Joined: Sep 9, 07 Gender: Male [Moderator]	Jun 11, 09, 20:34 / #4
SeanBM: Too much or too little or just like an uncle?. just plain old drug trafficking.

SeanBMThreads: 35 Posts: 6,253 Joined: Mar 10, 08 Gender: Male	Edited by: SeanBM Jun 11, 09, 20:35 / #5
dtaylor5632: What is it with black culture in the UK? This is a silly thread. Black culture = knife crime, murders and gang culture, does it?. You might be talking about Gangster black types from dodgy places in the U.S. I really don't care, this is a very stupid thread so it is bound, by definition, to be very popular.

jojospacemunkyThreads: 4 Posts: 73 Joined: Apr 25, 09 Gender: Female	Jun 11, 09, 20:37 / #6
It is not just blacks as you eloquently put it that carry out knife crimes and that ... this crime happens principally yes in large cities namely knife happy places especially Glasgow, Manchester, Liverpool, London its a sign of the time Gang culture is evident in all societies not just UK but across Europe and Murders happen just the non story grabbing ones you never hear about ... Polish people being murdered, kids being murdered, people commiting suicide these make story headlines across all media platforms to provoke a mass panic within society which has been duly caused in some respect by the media in the first place.

VincentThreads: 13 Posts: 991 Joined: Sep 9, 07 Gender: Male [Moderator]	Edited by: Vincent Jun 11, 09, 20:41 / #7
SeanBM: Black culture = knife crime, Yes no way does black culture = knife crime. I expect David has read about gang murders in black communities within large Uk cities.

SeanBMThreads: 35 Posts: 6,253 Joined: Mar 10, 08 Gender: Male	Jun 11, 09, 21:08 / #8
what about the culture in Limerick?

VincentThreads: 13 Posts: 991 Joined: Sep 9, 07 Gender: Male [Moderator]	Jun 11, 09, 21:29 / #9
SeanBM: what about the culture in Limerick? Ah that's nothing:) A few miles from me is the most dangerous street in the UK. PEOPLE INVESTIGATION: JUNKIE ST Shocking plight of the street where law abiding families are too scared to go out 915 crimes in 7 months.. 3 murders in 8 weeks.. 4 stabbings, muggings, burglaries or thefts EVERY DAY on the most dangerous road in Britain http://www.people.co.uk/news/news/tm_objectid=16254597%26method=full%2 6siteid=93463-name_page.html

aphrodisiacThreads: 10 Posts: 2,403 Joined: Apr 15, 09 Gender: Male	Jun 11, 09, 21:30 / #10
dtaylor5632: Any answers? not really. There are usually many factors which contribute to the issue you have described without giving many details.

fitzThreads: - Posts: 3 Joined: Jun 14, 09 Gender: Male	Jun 14, 09, 04:14 / #11
I think there've always been knife gangs/street gangs in big cities and towns, I remember hearing about some group called the "Peaky Blinders" in the north of England (probably just the name the newspapers gave them). Apparently the idea was to to scar their enemies rather than try to kill them. Funnily enough I once sat next to a young guy on a flight to Poland, He was going out to teach English (I think), and was from either Liverpool or Manchester, I can't remember now. Anyway he had a very long scar on his cheek after 'falling out with the wrong people'. So maybe that culture's still there. But knifing to kill someone, and also gun culture, comes from the States. It used to be considered definitely not macho to use guns or weapons just to win a fight, almost cowardly, but now it's sort of the opposite.

ShelleySThreads: 18 Posts: 3,649 Joined: Jun 26, 07 Gender: Female	Jul 12, 09, 03:13 / #14
Archer2009: And how do you even begin to define Black? Errm, someone with black skin. Archer2009: How is any of that a Black Culture Issue? Guns, knife crime, jack rolling, rape is more prevolent amongst blacks...do you need to me to go on? http://www.channel4.com/programmes/dispatches/articles/rape-in-the-cit y-related-articles The above are already here and born here! We let these people in to the uk http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/8107039.stm Archer2009: As for knife crimes - they keep reporting stabbings in the news all the time so young people think they need a knife to protect themselves, which in turn leads to even more knife crimes and so on and so forth... Look at the stats for knifings and you will see that the majority of crimes are black on black.

Chi019Threads: - Posts: 2 Joined: Sep 25, 09 Gender: Male	Sep 25, 09, 08:36 / #15
These racial crime trends are consistent across the world. Testosterone for instance explains part of the difference in men committing more crime than women. East Asians (Chinese, Japanese ancestry) have lower testosterone levels on average than whites, who have lower levels than blacks. East Asians also have lower crime rates in the UK, US and other western countries than whites, who have lower crime rates than blacks. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3455741 Another factor may be low activity variant of MAO-A which can put someone at greater risk of aggressive behaviour - this varies in frequency amongst ethnic groups. Another factor sometimes cited is cognitive ability, for instance low iq puts someone at greater risk failing at school and dropping out. They are then more at risk of joining gangs etc. Groups differ in average iq. This is probably due to both genetic and environmental factors. gnxp.com/blog/2007/10/james-watson-tells-inconvenient-truth_296.php psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/P&E%20Crime.pdf - (worldwide crime figures)

southernThreads: 62 Posts: 6,872 Joined: May 17, 07 Gender: Male	Sep 25, 09, 08:54 / #16
Chi019: Another factor sometimes cited is cognitive ability This is the difference between the black and the white.The Black is usually so dumb that he gets caught easily.

DaveyThreads: 17 Posts: 436 Joined: Jun 29, 07 Gender: Male	Jun 14, 09, 04:45 / #12
British black people are cute =)

Archer2009Threads: - Posts: 6 Joined: Jul 12, 09 Gender: Male	Jul 12, 09, 02:43 / #13
dtaylor5632 dtaylor5632: I'm not usually one to judge people by race, but more and more I hear news about knife crime, murders and gang culture in the larger cities. Any answers? How is any of that a Black Culture Issue? And how do you even begin to define Black? People from Africa will have a different culture to those from the west Indies for example. As for knife crimes - they keep reporting stabbings in the news all the time so young people think they need a knife to protect themselves, which in turn leads to even more knife crimes and so on and so forth...

Chi019Threads: - Posts: 2 Joined: Sep 25, 09 Gender: Male	Sep 25, 09, 09:08 / #17
This low variant MAO-A gene varies amongst groups. "Boys who carry a particular variation of the gene Monoamine oxidase A (MAOA), sometimes called the "warrior gene," are more likely not only to join gangs but also to be among the most violent members and to use weapons, according to a new study from The Florida State University that is the first to confirm an MAOA link specifically to gangs and guns." sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090605123237.htm

southernThreads: 62 Posts: 6,872 Joined: May 17, 07 Gender: Male	Sep 25, 09, 11:46 / #18
Chi019: a particular variation of the gene Monoamine oxidase A (MAOA), sometimes called the "warrior gene," are more likely not only to join gangs but also to be among the most violent members You just have to identify the carriers of MAOA gene in the population and imprison them.

TrevekThreads: 18 Posts: 1,372 Joined: May 21, 08 Gender: Male	Edited by: Trevek Oct 1, 09, 11:55 / #19
fitz: I remember hearing about some group called the "Peaky Blinders" in the north of England I seem to recall hearing ofthem. Were they not the people who put blades under their cap peaks, so they could just whip the cap across someone's face in a fight? I was always told never to grab a guy's lapels in-case he had razor blades sown underneath. Chi019: "Boys who carry a particular variation of the gene Monoamine oxidase A (MAOA), sometimes called the "warrior gene," are more likely not only to join gangs but also to be among the most violent members and to use weapons, What about girls, who are often more vicious and often ready to use weapons (shoes, bottles etc)

RevokeNiceThreads: 20 Posts: 2,083 Joined: Jun 20, 09 Gender: Male	Oct 1, 09, 15:28 / #20
Why do blacks, in every country they emigrate to, per capita, commit more crimes than the natives?

szkotja2007Threads: 38 Posts: 2,460 Joined: Dec 29, 06 Gender: Male	Oct 1, 09, 16:06 / #21
The natives are too lazy ?

RevokeNiceThreads: 20 Posts: 2,083 Joined: Jun 20, 09 Gender: Male	Oct 1, 09, 16:08 / #22
szkotja2007: The natives are too lazy ? No. They work and pay their taxes, funding the mass breeding of blacks through welfare. ;)