Who can keep right to speak its own language in UK

good question :)
recently I was watching BBC program about Welsh and other one about history of black people in UK
I got an impression that everybody who have a right to live here can speak English and can keep native language as well. Welsh have a right to speak its own language cos they are from Britain, Indians can speak Punjabi, Pakistanis and Bangladeshi can communicate in theirs languages as well cos they are part of old good Commonwealth, Africans can keep their Nigerian languages cos they are ex slave country which English impose on them long time ago and so on.

But ... if we can not get one language alike lingua franca we wont be able to communicate or maybe that would stir a racial/culture conflicts. I am a bit confused.

Poles are completely off that English history stuff, we are the first offspring of EU new regulations with lesser incomes that's we migrate here. Some of us are a part of good old 2nd Polish Republic who fought during WW2, but not too many of them compare to a new wave after 2004.

Any thought on the subject?

Go to any UK Govt sponsored website.
You will get information available in Punjabi, Hindi etc etc

How many have indigenous Gaelic translations available ?

szkotja2007
how many people from migrant or working class society speak Punjabi/Hindu or Gaelic?
How many Irish imigrants to UK speak Gaelic?. They know how to kick the ball and support Man Untd but Gaelic langauage? no way

Sorry Del- I dont get the point you are trying to make.

to answer to your question ( not mine who can keep right... ), its fault of celtic people not to keep language running

Derek - thanks for clarifying the point you are trying to make but if you are going to be a smartarse, please try and do it in a language you are sure of.

That is a rash statement.
How about this for a stupid statement
Its polish peoples fault they lost Lwow and the east or allowed the Germans to occupy their country or the fascist 2nd Republic deserved to get its ass kicked.

I dont believe any of that

I saw a particuarly striking example of this in Edinburgh a few years back - information was available in loads of languages, even Polish (and this was pre-EU) - but not in Gaelic!

Thankfully, the Scottish Parliament as a whole seems to be pushing Gaelic much more heavily these days. Caledonian MacBrayne even have an equality policy in that everything published by them is bilingual, which is good :)

(wonder if you can access information in Great Britain in Ulster-Scots?)

Yes


From here dcalni.gov.uk/index/language-cultural-diversity-r08.htm

Barney
fascist 2nd Republic
are you sure you know the subcjet to talk about it Barney?. Its like saying De Valera was a fascist, wasn't he?

And if we take NHS 24 as an example, we can see that Gaelic ( or other indiginous languages ) are omitted.

I suppose there is an argument that those that speak Gaelic etc should also speak English - the same argument could be applied to, for example, Punjabi.

Clearly there is a political agenda here.

Derek
You forgot this bit


Its a very touchy subject considering the history.
The language was lost to ensure the survival of the people

Something similar happened in Scotland Google the highland clearances

Highland potato famine too.

Gaelic ( Scots ) was also proscribed.

Lets be honest, its not like anybody is stopping the Celtic nations speaking their own languages, the majority of people in their countries choose not to or do not know the language.

Nobody has said 'you cannot speak Welsh or Gaelic' the only people who can be blamed for the loss of these languages, or them been pushed into the background of culture are those who speak it.

Everybody has the right to speak their language in the UK (UK based languages) of that there is no doubt, however it is about whether or not they choose to do so.

Everyone has a right to use a viable and used means of communication. For example, I'll be damned if sb says that Gaelic cannot be used. Dialect, as a form of language, should also be allowed to thrive.

i don't think anybody would deny/ or does deny you the right to speak Gaelic wherever you like in the UK, it is just you are in a minority who do speak it.

I'm interested to see if anybody thinks that for some reason they are not allowed to speak their language, whether it be Gaelic or Welsh??

Google "Sleat school 2006".


Google "Gaelic, Ness, Isle of Lewis"


Gaelic was proscribed.


Re read this again and have a word with yourself.


Not in schools or legal systems etc etc.

There is a political agenda against Gaelic dating back centuries.

schools where??


i'm assuming this is a school that would not allow the teaching of one of the languages


I do not need a word with myself, if the language was that popular or people felt strongly enough about it, i'm sure it would be spoken in schools, on the street or wherever people wanted to speak it.

Maybe its a case of the 'minority' wanting something that the 'majority' don't give a toss about??


always so quick to pass the buck or blame somebody else

Have a Google, learn something about the topic and then come back and post something that demonstrates some knowledge about the subject.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_language_in_Northern_Ireland

First BBC broadcast in Irish 1990's
Irish names were not heard, in fact anything Irish was banned from the airways.

This is ignoring all political aspects but that is for another forum.

Oct 21, 09, 23:33 - Thread attached on merging:
Who sent this to off topic? Who can keep right to speak its own language in UK

are mods Brits?

good question :)
recently I was watching BBC program about Welsh and other one about history of black people in UK
I got an impression that everybody who have a right to live here can speak English and can keep native language as well. Welsh have a right to speak its own language cos they are from Britain, Indians can speak Punjabi, Pakistanis and Bangladeshi can communicate in theirs languages as well cos they are part of old good Commonwealth, Africans can keep their Nigerian languages cos they are ex slave country which English impose on them long time ago and so on.

But ... if we can not get one language alike lingua franca we wont be able to communicate or maybe that would stir a racial/culture conflicts. I am a bit confused.

Poles are completely off that English history stuff, we are the first offspring of EU new regulations with lesser incomes that's we migrate here. Some of us are a part of good old 2nd Polish Republic who fought during WW2, but not too many of them compare to a new wave after 2004.

Any thought on the subject?

ps
mods , give me a short explanation why this thread is not conected to polish case?
What I am trying to do is to point a problem , which Poles have to take for consideration when they live in UK and try to fit in

If this thread becomes about the Polish language in the UK it will be moved back, currently it's about every other language and not Polish.

good question :)
recently I was watching BBC program about Welsh and other one about history of black people in UK
I got an impression that everybody who have a right to live here can speak English and can keep native language as well. Welsh have a right to speak its own language cos they are from Britain, Indians can speak Punjabi, Pakistanis and Bangladeshi can communicate in theirs languages as well cos they are part of old good Commonwealth, Africans can keep their Nigerian languages cos they are ex slave country which English impose on them long time ago and so on.

But ... if we can not get one language alike lingua franca we wont be able to communicate or maybe that would stir a racial/culture conflicts. I am a bit confused.

Poles are completely off that English history stuff, we are the first offspring of EU new regulations with lesser incomes that's we migrate here. Some of us are a part of good old 2nd Polish Republic who fought during WW2, but not too many of them compare to a new wave after 2004.

Any thought on the subject?

Don't get all high and mighty :) there is no need, there is a simple point to all this instead of you complaining about this and that, its this persons fault and we are denied etc etc. The fact of the matter is, if enough people cared it would be spoken freely all over Scotland or wherever else you would like to speak it/it be spoken.

The fact is though, not enough people do care to have an effect, if they did then these languages would be spoken all over their respected countries. In many, if not all parts of wales, welsh is taught as a language or the kids are at least given the choice.