Migrant workers face rental block

Wroclaw Boy:

I dont know about Polish tenants in the UK but i can vouch for them over here, ive been involved in property management a little. Out of 15 lets ive had around 4 not pay rent and just move out never to be seen again, 2 tenants running prostitute establishments, one i was required to assit the Police, after that i just gave up.

Most have had big dogs which trash the apartments, cigarette burns in sofas, water leaks through unreported issues, stolen furniture etc etc. never again.

Harry:

And the same Giles Coren who needs somebody in the UK to make a formal complaint about him employing illegal immigrants?

espanaThreads: 40 Posts: 2,233 Joined: Feb 28, 07	Aug 4, 09, 13:06 / #
Three agents rejected a Polish worker sent by the BBC, while a BBC employee was allowed to view the properties. what do you think ola123? disgusting :( http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8181486.stm

AjbThreads: 12 Posts: 340 Joined: Jul 14, 08	Aug 4, 09, 16:45 / #
To be honest I know this part of the UK quite well as one of my parents come from there and have an uncle who has a very successful business there (who employs loads of Polish people)... the locals are not very accepting to foreigners and never have been!! I always think of this area as a family in-breading area of the UK, even me as a british citizen is saddened by this article....

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,306 Joined: Apr 21, 08	Aug 4, 09, 17:01 / #
Maybe the landlord/landlords in question have had problems before with some eastern europeans and therefore don't want to take the risk again. I know of some who will not rent to students,maybe this is a similar case.

z_dariusThreads: 22 Posts: 5,091 Joined: Oct 18, 07	Aug 4, 09, 17:02 / #
espana: Three agents rejected a Polish worker sent by the BBC, while a BBC employee was allowed to view the properties. Here's how it works. You want to prove a point. You select an area, preferably where Poles are likely to be rejected. You keep on shooting until you have enough material you want to show on TV.

gumishuThreads: 17 Posts: 3,943 Joined: Apr 6, 09	Aug 4, 09, 17:14 / #
time means: Maybe the landlord/landlords in question have had problems before with some eastern europeans and therefore don't want to take the risk again. I know of some who will not rent to students,maybe this is a similar case. simple as that no need to put any racial issues - this is not the case when the state should interfere

espanaThreads: 40 Posts: 2,233 Joined: Feb 28, 07	Aug 4, 09, 17:22 / #
espana: what do you think ola123? :) http://www.polishforums.com/life-poland-7/foreigners-please-dont-buy-p olish-land-7313/

mvefaThreads: 11 Posts: 972 Joined: Jul 21, 09	Edited by: mvefa Aug 4, 09, 17:42 / #
i was once rejected in China when trying to rent an appartment :( they said evil europeans are too loud in the building, giving always big parties untill late, boooo...no biggie, i mean i moved to the next building...

RevokeNiceThreads: 21 Posts: 2,765 Joined: Jun 20, 09	Edited by: RevokeNice Aug 4, 09, 17:44 / #
The multiculti industry just had to get involved. "Arpita Dutt, a discrimination lawyer at solicitors Russell Jones and Walker, told the BBC: "What they should be saying is, 'I can't do this, I can't act on those instructions. I can get you the best tenant for your property and try to meet those needs. But if I did it in the way you are asking me to do it, then that's against the law'." Why are the BBC actively searching for evidence of "racism"? Landlords own the property, they should be allowed rent to whoever they want, or, in this case, dont want.

mvefaThreads: 11 Posts: 972 Joined: Jul 21, 09	Edited by: mvefa Aug 4, 09, 17:49 / #
Well, if an owner gives specifi requirements like: NO POLES, then well, than it is racism, i agree the owner has the right to protect his property, but the law prohibits to exclude people because of nationality, sex, religion etc etc.. There should be however be allowed for the owner to ask the tenant kind of criminal records, that would be much better.

RevokeNiceThreads: 21 Posts: 2,765 Joined: Jun 20, 09	Aug 4, 09, 17:56 / #
mvefa It is the landlords property, his rules. The BBC should butt out, it is none of their business.

mvefaThreads: 11 Posts: 972 Joined: Jul 21, 09	Edited by: mvefa Aug 4, 09, 18:10 / #
ah come on, i talk out of experience, it does not feel nice, i was discriminated for being european, just for that they didnt want to rent me the appartement, it hurts dudes, no kidding,we should not base our opinions just on nationalities, i mean during my collegue time, i had an aphganistan room mate, which was the sweetest guy, clean and always responsible, while my counter partners made all the noise, garbage and so on... It's just not right!

gumishuThreads: 17 Posts: 3,943 Joined: Apr 6, 09	Edited by: gumishu Aug 4, 09, 18:53 / #
I still think it is not ok to impose such laws on the nation - if the general public strongly dislikes some aliens for whatever reason, for the state actively pursuing the policy that is against these feelings (in form of imposed laws instead of education and example) is counterproductive (does not serve the intended goal - quite the reverse)

Wroclaw BoyThreads: 57 Posts: 5,470 Joined: Jul 3, 09 MEMBER	Aug 5, 09, 12:00 / #
Pierogi: I'm still owed nearly £2000 by one landlord/lettings agent, is that a months rent as deposit?

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,306 Joined: Apr 21, 08	Aug 5, 09, 13:50 / #
2 stylish rooms for rent for a female (young person) (Mokotów area) Copied from a pf post today, it's even happening on here. No oldies or males where's the bbc when you need them.

mvefaThreads: 11 Posts: 972 Joined: Jul 21, 09	Edited by: mvefa Aug 4, 09, 17:59 / #
RevokeNice: It is the landlords property, his rules. The BBC should butt out, it is none of their business. Yeah but legally the landlord is breaking the law...Off course this happens everyday in every country, but the BBC has got to make ratings right?

RevokeNiceThreads: 21 Posts: 2,765 Joined: Jun 20, 09	Aug 4, 09, 18:02 / #
mvefa: Yeah but legally the landlord is breaking the law The law is an ass.

gumishuThreads: 17 Posts: 3,943 Joined: Apr 6, 09	Aug 4, 09, 18:06 / #
RevokeNice: Yeah but legally the landlord is breaking the law The law is an ass. in this case

espanaThreads: 40 Posts: 2,233 Joined: Feb 28, 07	Edited by: espana Aug 4, 09, 18:16 / #
mvefa: Yeah but legally the landlord is breaking the law... breaking the law !!! How many Poles can live in a 2 bedroom house ? 20 poles ? :)

mvefaThreads: 11 Posts: 972 Joined: Jul 21, 09	Edited by: mvefa Aug 4, 09, 18:17 / #
i wouldn't know about that...haha

ragtime27Threads: 1 Posts: 245 Joined: Feb 20, 09	Aug 4, 09, 18:45 / #
RevokeNice: It is the landlords property, his rules. The BBC should butt out, it is none of their business. you seem to have very short memory, remember!!"no Black,no Dog,no Irish" It's disgrace,poles or otherwise. It is Landlord property,but the agent must be strict with the racial rules. espana: breaking the law !!! How many Poles can live in a 2 bedroom house ? 20 poles ? then you haven't seen the Australians,new Zealanders....the list is long. no excuse.

Wroclaw BoyThreads: 57 Posts: 5,470 Joined: Jul 3, 09 MEMBER	Edited by: Wroclaw Boy Aug 4, 09, 18:52 / #
I dont know about Polish tenants in the UK but i can vouch for them over here, ive been involved in property management a little. Out of 15 lets ive had around 4 not pay rent and just move out never to be seen again, 2 tenants running prostitute establishments, one i was required to assit the Police, after that i just gave up. Most have had big dogs which trash the apartments, cigarette burns in sofas, water leaks through unreported issues, stolen furniture etc etc. never again.

PierogiThreads: - Posts: 64 Joined: Aug 1, 09	Aug 4, 09, 19:25 / #
espana: Three agents rejected a Polish worker sent by the BBC, while a BBC employee was allowed to view the properties. Is this the same BBC which gives a voice to people like Giles Coren?

Robert AThreads: 2 Posts: 228 Joined: Jul 29, 08	Edited by: Robert A Aug 4, 09, 20:17 / #
It is not the Landlords who are breaking the law, it is those venal parasites the letting/estate agents who are breaking the law. They act upon the instructions of the Landlords, to ensure they secure their business. If the letting/estate agents declined to accept those instructions, knowing that to do otherwise is unlawful, they might loose out. It is the letting/estate agents responsibility to ensure properties are let without discrimination - if they fail to do this, they are the ones breaking the law. Pierogi: Is this the same BBC which gives a voice to people like Giles Coren? Sadly, it is true.

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 [Suspended]	Aug 4, 09, 20:30 / #
Pierogi: Is this the same BBC which gives a voice to people like Giles Coren? And the same Giles Coren who needs somebody in the UK to make a formal complaint about him employing illegal immigrants?

PierogiThreads: - Posts: 64 Joined: Aug 1, 09	Edited by: Pierogi Aug 4, 09, 20:34 / #
Wroclaw Boy: I dont know about Polish tenants in the UK but i can vouch for them over here, ive been involved in property management a little. Out of 15 lets ive had around 4 not pay rent and just move out never to be seen again, 2 tenants running prostitute establishments, one i was required to assit the Police, after that i just gave up. Most have had big dogs which trash the apartments, cigarette burns in sofas, water leaks through unreported issues, stolen furniture etc etc. never again. I'd love to sympathise, but considering that I've had to threaten every landlord/lettings agent I've dealt with over the past 10 years with County Court proceedings, just to get my deposit back (despite often leaving flats in better condition than they were left for me, and not breaking any terms of the agreement) I'm afraid that I'm the last person who will sympathise. I'm still owed nearly £2000 by one landlord/lettings agent, and I'm getting ready to prepare my next case. I'm fed up of these thieving c*s keeping me poor. ** landlords. Harry: And the same Giles Coren who needs somebody in the UK to make a formal complaint about him employing illegal immigrants? You don't get the hypocrisy of it, do you.

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 [Suspended]	Aug 4, 09, 20:51 / #
Pierogi: You don't get the hypocrisy of it, do you. You don't understand that I was told only UK residents can report UK crime, do you.

PierogiThreads: - Posts: 64 Joined: Aug 1, 09	Aug 4, 09, 20:53 / #
Harry: You don't understand that I was told only UK residents can report UK crime, do you. If it wasn't on this thread, then no

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 [Suspended]	Aug 4, 09, 20:58 / #
Pierogi: If it wasn't on this thread, then no I tried to report Coren for employing illegals and was told that I couldn't.

mvefaThreads: 11 Posts: 972 Joined: Jul 21, 09	Aug 5, 09, 12:06 / #
that's a hell lota money for deposit!!

RevokeNiceThreads: 21 Posts: 2,765 Joined: Jun 20, 09	Edited by: RevokeNice Aug 5, 09, 15:51 / #
ragtime27: you seem to have very short memory, remember!!"no Black,no Dog,no Irish" It's disgrace,poles or otherwise. It is Landlord property,but the agent must be strict with the racial rules. I have a great long term/ short term memory, thanks for asking. The landlords where probably right when they put up them signs back in the day. The Irish who arrived were poor, destitute, and dirty. Paddy also had a dangerous past time, bombing the fook out of the place.