RevokeNice: As Leo Varadkar(TD) of Fine Gael said, " its all about immigration, it is the elephant in the room". Even though the treaty itself has absolutely nothing to do with immigration, there is massive anger over the issue at present.
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RevokeNice: Leo Varadkar claimed " it was all about immigration, it was the elephant in the room". I know the treay had nothing to do with immigration, but people voted against it as a protest against immigration.
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RevokeNice: Before we voted on Nice2 we where told it was xenophobic to think we would get many people immigrating here from eastern europe and Ireland was littered with poster campaigns depicting poor eastern european children as propaganda for a yes vote.
You keep protesting the Nice treaty, then protesting immigration.
Then you clearly state, the Nice treaty has NOTHING to do with immigration.
Time to get your facts straight.
Poles did not ruin the Irish economy.
RevokeNice: BritishEmpire Yes, they set up a campaign. As I said, its a plantation.
That is just irony.
RevokeNice: Fianna Fail, the mass immigration party, do not care about the working class Irish.
That may be the case but FF were voted in by the people.
Ironside: You were tricked then.......
No he is manipulating the facts, see above.
RevokeNice: The level of immigration from Poland into Ireland is the equivalent of 1,600,000 Irish people, one third of our population, immigrating
"70 million people worldwide who can claim Irish descent."[53] Today the diaspora is believed to contain over 80 million people." From Wiki here
RevokeNice: Gerry Adams, claims "they are all Irish whether here for four months or 400 years".
At least someone is talking sense.
moonlight: While I agree we should take a stand on what are our country values, we should also consider how we managed to create a lot of our infrastructure.
If by infrastructure, you mean better management of immigrants, I agree.
There should be a better management of immigration in to the country too, but off the wall nutters like this guy won't help.
From out reach programs, to integration.
This is Ireland's first contact with immigrants into the country. They were ill prepared and did not have experience with it.
So now they have to play catch up.
moonlight: Our country has become a diverse community (consisting of more that Polish) deal with it..... I have heard of quite a few Irish business people who were more than happy to exploit Polish and others to make their fortunes. "Plantation" - you are referencing this to the English plantation of Ireland? How can you? Its an insult to our history and modern society to refer to the present day as a "plantation" Who is being forced to leave their homes?, whose's homes are being burned?
Great post at last! :)
RevokeNice: most will stay here, setting up their own communities, schools, social outets, and shops, a mini Poland in Ireland.
Brilliant, I am very happy so many Polish people are finding new lives for themselves in Ireland they worked for it.
A bit like the mini Ireland in other countries, great!.
Ireland needed the labour, 40,000 jobs were left vacant each year and Poles filled those jobs, creating a second "Celtic tiger".
RevokeNice: This is a public forum and I signed up to see things from a Polish perspective, I am not here to troll or to be disrespectful.
You have not come on here to see the Polish perspective, you have come here to preach your own hatred.
Torq: I believe you'd be wrong here.
No matter what way you put it, he will have hate in him.
Torq: The number of Chinese, Hindu, Bangladeshi, Romanian and Nigerian people in Ireland is MUCH higher than the number of Poles and there is not a snowball chance in hell that those people will EVER come back to Pakistan, India, Nigeria or Bangladesh
I agree with you, stricter immigration laws need to be set up in Ireland.
However, Romania are in the E.U. and should be let travel freely.
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