Pole injured in RIRA's attack (Real-IRA)

Ireland32:

Guys Guys Guys....dont you get it......bring the SAS and the british soldiers back onto the streets of the North of Ireland is exactly what these people want.....they want an excuse for us to row behind them......history has taught us that. They have no support. their struggle is futile and their ranks are filled with people who cannot hold their piss !!

Remember that the greatest war in Ireland was the propoganda war.......by the look of some of these posts....we are heading that direction again.

Ireland32Threads: 2 Posts: 234 Joined: Feb 23, 09	Mar 10, 09, 21:46 / #
dtaylor: The local communities will grass these wimps up I wouldnt be so sure about this.... Ireland has a fear of 'loose talk'......many paid the price for doing so in the past......sorry

PolskaDollThreads: 44 Posts: 4,134 Joined: Jun 15, 07	Mar 10, 09, 22:03 / #
They have arrested two people for the murder of the policeman, a 17 year old and a 37 year old.

Ireland32Threads: 2 Posts: 234 Joined: Feb 23, 09	Mar 10, 09, 22:14 / #
And Justice Pervails !!

Mr GrunwaldThreads: 34 Posts: 2,354 Joined: Dec 16, 08	Mar 10, 09, 22:56 / #
If anymore poles get killed/injured then I see a new organization made to battle terrorists in North Ireland! (Ofc 100% foreigners in it, guess wich nationality? xD )

Ireland32Threads: 2 Posts: 234 Joined: Feb 23, 09	Mar 10, 09, 23:04 / #
Mr Grunwald: If anymore poles get killed/injured then I see a new organization made to battle terrorists in North Ireland! (Ofc 100% foreigners in it, guess wich nationality? xD ) Statements like this do nothing to stabilise the peace process in Ireland. There is no battle.......no war....just a few thugs who are being rejected by ordinary decent people.

irishdeanoThreads: 11 Posts: 480 Joined: Oct 23, 07	Edited by: irishdeano Mar 11, 09, 01:44 / #
Just after reading the posts here, to get something across it is not the IRA who carried this out, They are break away groups which formed. They dont have the support of the people an dont have much fire arms. They are a little stronger than people think. hugh Orde head of PSNI announced that the SAS were coming back undercover on the friday. on the saturday the first terrible thing happened. i would just like to point out people talk about the IRA this the IRA that.. The IRA were at war with britain for 800 years. They were fighting for there country like any other country done. IRA did some terrible things just like they british army also did here and also helped loyalist gangs get away with murder including help from the police. There is 2 sides to every story. Im totally disgusted at this. The reason why the pizza guys got shot were cause in there eyes they were working with the enemy. There is an unwritten rule than u dont serve a man in uniform. Next the army an police were on high alert. There was no one on the watch tower which doesnt make sense. The provos did warn the CIRA years ago that if they affected the peace process they would come down hard on them. people around the world think they know all about it. they dont know the half of it. Im not trying to take sides here and im not trying to offend anyone i highly do condem this and i hope this is the end of it.

dtaylorThreads: 15 Posts: 992 Joined: Sep 15, 07	Mar 11, 09, 01:50 / #
irishdeano: hugh Orde head of PSNI announced that the SAS were coming back undercover on the friday. In my opinion, so they should, the wanks who carried out the attacks have brought it on themselves. When N.Ireland is doing everything to carry on peace, then these tossers do their best to upset it, then they should be brought to justice by any means how.

irishdeanoThreads: 11 Posts: 480 Joined: Oct 23, 07	Edited by: irishdeano Mar 11, 09, 01:55 / #
dtaylor: In my opinion, so they should, the wanks who carried out the attacks have brought it on themselves. When N.Ireland is doing everything to carry on peace, then these tossers do their best to upset it, then they should be brought to justice by any means how. They never left in the first place...But they should have came but didnt announce it..after they announced it they lost the heads... These guys will never be got...at least not for a year i just hope it does not go back the way it was...cause it would be worst than it ever was :(

dtaylorThreads: 15 Posts: 992 Joined: Sep 15, 07	Mar 11, 09, 02:15 / #
Well two have been arrested, though probably 2 dumb guys following orders :/

ragtime27Threads: 1 Posts: 245 Joined: Feb 20, 09	Mar 11, 09, 03:12 / #
dtaylor: Well two have been arrested, though probably 2 dumb guys following orders :/ I doubt it ,it's too early. it's an Army regime everyone follows an order.

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,309 Joined: Apr 21, 08	Mar 11, 09, 20:52 / #
war lol never. white card , yellow card i don`t see those in afghanistan.

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,309 Joined: Apr 21, 08	Mar 11, 09, 21:17 / #
deano we can argue till the cows come home and never agree, you will have your opinion and i will have my own. i try to steer away from political stuff on here, but agree with you that we don`t want a return to the bad old days of the 70s and early 80s and hopefully we will not.

Ireland32Threads: 2 Posts: 234 Joined: Feb 23, 09	Mar 11, 09, 21:24 / #
time means: deano we can argue till the cows come home and never agree who is Deano ? i aint arguing. time means: we don`t want a return to the bad old days of the 70s and early 80s Please include the early 90's in that statement.......and i agree......we do not want to return to it.....no one here does.

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,309 Joined: Apr 21, 08	Mar 11, 09, 21:30 / #
lol sorry ireland and deano, too much wine :-) 70s,80s and 90s as well and i believe the people will not allow it to happen. just scrolled up and jeez where did i get deano from, thats it no more alcohol tonight.

TrevekThreads: 30 Posts: 2,088 Joined: May 21, 08	Mar 11, 09, 09:08 / #
irishdeano: hugh Orde head of PSNI announced that the SAS were coming back undercover on the friday. Not trying to score points here, but I was under the impression it wasn't SAS but Special Reconnaisance Regt., a recently formed Special Force unit. I'd never actually heard of them until now.

Ireland32Threads: 2 Posts: 234 Joined: Feb 23, 09	Mar 11, 09, 19:57 / #
Guys Guys Guys....dont you get it......bring the SAS and the british soldiers back onto the streets of the North of Ireland is exactly what these people want.....they want an excuse for us to row behind them......history has taught us that. They have no support. their struggle is futile and their ranks are filled with people who cannot hold their piss !! Remember that the greatest war in Ireland was the propoganda war.......by the look of some of these posts....we are heading that direction again.

DaisyThreads: 16 Posts: 2,172 Joined: Apr 28, 07	Mar 11, 09, 20:38 / #
Ireland32: Guys Guys Guys....dont you get it......bring the SAS and the british soldiers back onto the streets of the North of Ireland is exactly what these people want.....they want an excuse for us to row behind them......history has taught us that. They have no support. their struggle is futile and their ranks are filled with people who cannot hold their piss !! Remember that the greatest war in Ireland was the propoganda war.......by the look of some of these posts....we are heading that direction again. Totally agree with you, these people don't want peace and they should not be given what they want

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,309 Joined: Apr 21, 08	Mar 11, 09, 20:41 / #
irishdeano: The IRA were at war with britain for 800 years the ira date from around 1916. as for war don`t make me laugh the recent troubles were never a war, if it were a war it would have been finished in 48hrs. ask any ex squaddie who served there what an awareness room was.

Ireland32Threads: 2 Posts: 234 Joined: Feb 23, 09	Mar 11, 09, 20:48 / #
time means: if it were a war it would have been finished in 48hrs Jasus......History has taught you nothing......you can kill the revoluntionary but never the revolution (Bobby Sands). For every IRA volunteer killed during the 'war' resulted in another 10 being recruited.....The SAS were the greatest recruitment tool for the IRA. As long as an organisation has the support of the community it represents then it will survive....that why the war lasted so long.........this time these thugs do not have the support.

DaisyThreads: 16 Posts: 2,172 Joined: Apr 28, 07	Mar 11, 09, 20:55 / #
Ireland32: The SAS were the greatest recruitment tool for the IRA I thought it was Ian Paisley

Ireland32Threads: 2 Posts: 234 Joined: Feb 23, 09	Mar 11, 09, 21:09 / #
time means: war lol never. white card , yellow card i don`t see those in afghanistan. Why do you think the US/UK forces are still in Afghanistan and Iraq....exactly the same reason the Bbritish army were in Ireland for 25 years !!!!! you cannot defeat a guerilla army that has the support of the local community by use of convential military tactics......my point is the CIRA and RIRA do not have the support in the local community. we dont want a return to the'war'.

Ireland32Threads: 2 Posts: 234 Joined: Feb 23, 09	Mar 11, 09, 21:31 / #
On a point of clarity...can the moderator please change the title of this thread to indicate CIRA/RIRA and not the IRA as currently stated as this is not a true representation.

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,309 Joined: Apr 21, 08	Mar 11, 09, 21:36 / #
agree with ireland on the above 100%

Ireland32Threads: 2 Posts: 234 Joined: Feb 23, 09	Mar 11, 09, 22:05 / #
Thankyou to the Moderator .

TrevekThreads: 30 Posts: 2,088 Joined: May 21, 08	Mar 11, 09, 22:29 / #
I agree with Ireland32, these prats do want the troops back and then it'll be "Cromwell's Men Are Here Again!" I think the biggest mistake the security forces did was say publically that a regiment which is pretty hush-hush were on the ground. Whether you want them there or not, I think that was a mistake and one which seems to have fuelled the following events. Like Ireland32 says, the PIRA guys (like them or not) have realised that the 'war' was going nowhere and have been brave enough to change track, as have some of the more prominent Loyalists. We can't let the minority win.

szkotja2007Threads: 38 Posts: 2,543 Joined: Dec 29, 06	Mar 11, 09, 23:04 / #
szkotja2007: During the time of the "troubles" the Paramilitaries made a lot of money from extortion and protection rackets. I'm wondering if these gangs still operate or has all this ceased? Anyone care to comment ?

BarneyThreads: 14 Posts: 1,469 Joined: May 26, 08	Mar 11, 09, 23:28 / #
szkotja2007: Anyone care to comment Most of the protection rackets and drug dealing is carried out by Loyalists. Today the CIRA and RIRA are not sophisticated enough to do this in any sustainable way. The PIRA used some building site protection rackets in the early days but soon realised that these rackets harmed the people (Housing stock was resultantly inferior Unionist politicians realised this but the British backed terrorists did not). Secondly The PIRA never got involved in drug dealing...other so called republicans did. Money was raised through other means......wherever you have a border its a licence to print money!! There is an organisation called the Independent Monitoring Commission who will tell you all you know.

szkotja2007Threads: 38 Posts: 2,543 Joined: Dec 29, 06	Mar 11, 09, 23:42 / #
Thanks Barney, It always struck me that a lot of criminals used the "troubles" as an excuse to be gangsters. Protection,extortion,arson, punishment beatings etc, etc

irishdeanoThreads: 11 Posts: 480 Joined: Oct 23, 07	Mar 12, 09, 00:00 / #
time means: deano we can argue till the cows come home and never agree Whattttttttttttt Barney: Most of the protection rackets and drug dealing is carried out by Loyalists very true szkotja2007: punishment beatings etc Robbers,Rapists,pedos,criminals got these beatings

BarneyThreads: 14 Posts: 1,469 Joined: May 26, 08	Edited by: Barney Mar 12, 09, 00:12 / #
szkotja2007: as an excuse to be gangsters This is true but the IRA stopped when there was no need for it anymore. There is some grim humour. I was in the bar and a horse called six shot was running, of course all you heard mumbled was "Six shot?....it should only take one" There wont be so many jokes like that now (the guy who said it shot people). An aside: I was talking to a former prisoner today and he said that no one wants to go back least of all those with houses in Donegal and he was only half joking. Recently but before the weekend, for the first time in several years I have heard mutterings of discontent about we did the time and dont have second houses big cars etc. Sinn Fein have these due to legitimate means unlike FF or FG (Gangsters)and their habit of taking backhanders. But the support is still rock solid The punishment beating thing...stopping them was the most unpopular thing the IRA ever did people want Spides/Neds/Chavs/Dresi thumped