The Poles are Coming documentary

ShelleyS wrote:

When he was outside the Job Centre and British scrotes seem to think they are above a hard days work - FFS - one of the foreigners who are steeling jobs was earning £2k a month....slightly above minimum wage I would say...oh and apparently Poles work for 50p

telefonitika	Mar 9, 08, 17:29 / #
This documentary is aired in the UK on BBC2 channel at 9pm on Tuesday 11th March .... lets syncronise watches and compare notes after the show has finished airing ... not that we dont see a daily debate to which will be covered in the documentary on a regular basis here on the PF ... but be interesting to know what you all thought .... !!!

Arise_St_GeorgeThreads: 15 Posts: 572 Joined: Mar 8, 08	Mar 9, 08, 18:32 / #
According to this and a few other papers the Polish are gradually returning home http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/tide-of-migration-turns -as-polish-workers-return-787914.html http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/business/yourbusiness/feb/easterneuropean workforceplummets.htm

PolskaDollThreads: 44 Posts: 4,134 Joined: Jun 15, 07	Mar 9, 08, 18:40 / #
telefonitika wrote: This documentary is aired in the UK on BBC2 channel at 9pm on Tuesday 11th March . Typical, I'll miss it but I'll try and pick it up another time. Is it a new documentary?

szkotja2007Threads: 38 Posts: 2,544 Joined: Dec 29, 06	Mar 9, 08, 18:47 / #
PolskaDoll wrote: Typical, I'll miss it but I'll try and pick it up another time You could try this - its the BBC's playback thing. I must admit I haven't tried it myself - URL

PolskaDollThreads: 44 Posts: 4,134 Joined: Jun 15, 07	Mar 9, 08, 18:52 / #
szkotja2007 wrote: You could try this - its the BBC's playback thing. I must admit I haven't tried it myself - Cheers szkotja, I knew about it but like you, I haven't tried it yet. I did wonder if they would show the documentary on it after the airing time. I hope so :)

telefonitika	Edited by: telefonitika Mar 9, 08, 19:04 / #
PolskaDoll wrote: Is it a new documentary? yes it is from the adverts i have seen ... it shows same sort of opinions found daily on this forum to be honest the good and the bad ... which is why i will be watching PolskaDoll wrote: I did wonder if they would show the documentary on it after the airing time. I hope so :) they do and upto a few days after as well as you can play catch up on programs i do :) Arise_St_George wrote: According to this and a few other papers i dont read daily sh1t rags as more sh1t is on the paper than you get out your own arse ... :)

PolskaDollThreads: 44 Posts: 4,134 Joined: Jun 15, 07	Mar 9, 08, 19:07 / #
telefonitika wrote: yes it is from the adverts i have seen ... it shows same sort of opinions found daily on this forum to be honest the good and the bad ... which is why i will be watching Good stuff :) Yeah I am interested in that too. telefonitika wrote: they do and upto a few days after as well as you can play catch up on programs i do :) Good. I can maybe watch it the same night. Cheers :)

gdj67Threads: 20 Posts: 187 Joined: Nov 18, 07	Mar 9, 08, 20:43 / #
I'd be surprised if it's a 'balanced' account. They'll be going for maximum sensationalism to attract higher ratings. The fact remains, that most decent people that have met Poles in the UK have nothing but respect and admrationof them. How many of the lazy scroungers in this country would have the balls to 'up stcks' and get a plane to get a better paid job. BTW, Yes St George, I'd like a large fries with that!

telefonitika	Mar 9, 08, 21:53 / #
gdj67 wrote: I'd be surprised if it's a 'balanced' account. hence my opinion that it will be like coming to this forum every day gdj67 wrote: They'll be going for maximum sensationalism to attract higher ratings Bit like the daily sh1t rags that are printed and read gdj67 wrote: that most decent people that have met Poles in the UK have nothing but respect and admrationof them. i never say i dont have respect for them ... if i thought less of them i wouldnt go regularly to Poland on Holiday and that gdj67 wrote: How many of the lazy scroungers in this country would have the balls to 'up stcks' and get a plane to get a better paid job. generalization there ... it is like saying would you personally do it I posted this thread to see if people would watch and give there views after watching it ...... :D

gdj67Threads: 20 Posts: 187 Joined: Nov 18, 07	Mar 9, 08, 22:00 / #
Easy Tiger, I wasn't getting at you Tele..................quite the opposite. You asked what people thought, and I told you what I think. I hope I'm wrong, but he Sun/Daily Mail mentality of the minority pisses me off. G

noimmigration	Mar 11, 08, 15:40 / #
I am going to get violently drunk and watch this and then pay a visit to a local polish shop.

szkotja2007Threads: 38 Posts: 2,544 Joined: Dec 29, 06	Mar 11, 08, 15:42 / #
noimmigration wrote: I am going to get violently drunk and watch this Violently drunk in your dorm by yourself- whoopeee ! noimmigration wrote: pay a visit to a local polish shop. Where you will be a very nice boy because thats how internet bullys are.

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07	Mar 11, 08, 16:20 / #
I've never been violently drunk. That is unless you look at it from the point of view of the alcoholic beverages - "He's going to kills us all. It's an act of mass beericide." I still don't have a television so I still can't say anything about the program itself.

tornado2007Threads: 20 Posts: 3,497 Joined: Jul 11, 07	Mar 11, 08, 17:27 / #
Dam i missed the show i so meant to watch it, i was watching a movie called 'home of the brave' what was it like PD?

truebritThreads: 3 Posts: 230 Joined: May 19, 06	Mar 10, 08, 09:49 / #
gdj67 wrote: You asked what people thought, and I told you what I think. I hope I'm wrong, but he Sun/Daily Mail mentality of the minority pisses me off The Daily Mail mentality pisses off lots of people including most British people

szkotja2007Threads: 38 Posts: 2,544 Joined: Dec 29, 06	Mar 11, 08, 15:05 / #
telefonitika wrote: This documentary is aired in the UK on BBC2 channel at 9pm on Tuesday 11th March Just a reminder.....................

PolskaDollThreads: 44 Posts: 4,134 Joined: Jun 15, 07	Mar 11, 08, 16:51 / #
You should be able to watch it online at some point. Well, I'm hoping anyway... :)

telefonitika	Mar 11, 08, 17:48 / #
tornado2007 wrote: Dam i missed the show i so meant to watch it, it is on bbc i player to watch if you missed it ............ i watched it and took notes focuses on PETERBOROUGH area only in particular the New England area of the city ..... At the turn of the last century America had Ellis Island at the turn of this century Britain has Victoria Station (a quote of dialogue from the documentary) most eastern europeans (this was the term used alot) work in tescos .. building work .. packing and picking Primary area focused on a street called Lincoln Road ... Spoke to the local councillor Charles Swift of the New England ward who seemed to have changed his views and opinions of immigration since the 1970's when he welcomed immigrants to Peterborough due to the overwhelming numbers the area had government unofficial figures est. 160.000 in this area he claims they is some 20-30.000 more Eastern European immigrants in the area Focused also on the Gdansk area and the workforce there is now made up of women doing the mens jobs as one polish woman put it "Women can get a job easy as all the men have left" 17-25 year old females are being trained as firefighters as there is a shortage of firefighters .. the shipyard is now employing koreans and chinese in place of the polish workforce that as soon as trained apparently are leaving to work in the West (France/Uk/Scotland and Germany were mentioned) Bogden Oleszek featured on the documentary as did Lech Walesa(and again his love of woman didnt go unnoticed by me as he is quoted saying "i do not pay attention to him (bogden) but his wife she is beautiful) English people are also regarded as being lazy and want to claim benefits ... and Marusz says he is in no hurry to return to Poland after arriving in the UK a few days earlier and admires English tolerance ... Most common complaint "foreigners taking our job" yet the english that were interviewed outside a JCP (Jobcentre plus building) who were all male ... when given opportuntity to work the next day picking in a field for 10 hours at £7+ an hour .. turned their noses up at it and scoffed would rather sign on instead ... whilst one cracked one a can of "wifebeater" (stella artois for those that dont know) What was anyone else's thoughts?

tornado2007Threads: 20 Posts: 3,497 Joined: Jul 11, 07	Mar 11, 08, 17:51 / #
thank you very much telefonika, i appreciate your notes vey much, i'll give the show a watch on the iplayer and get back to you with my views. I'm sure i'll be very interested and have a few things to say when i've finished watching :)

szkotja2007Threads: 38 Posts: 2,544 Joined: Dec 29, 06	Mar 11, 08, 18:57 / #
Not that great. Sort of a poor mans Louis Therioux kind of thing. Gdansk looked great. Focussed a lot on other people from baltic states, Cz and Slovenia Followed a mans journey from Poznan to England ( poor guy looked like he left his dentures at home ). Didnt focus for too long on any positives. The bit about the Cz guy sleeping under a bush looked like it was made for the camera.

GroundedThreads: 4 Posts: 117 Joined: Jun 2, 07	Mar 12, 08, 03:33 / #
szkotja2007 wrote: Louis Therioux kind of thing. That's exactly what I thought. Didnt think it was that good either although it did highlight some of the problems a lot of Eastern Europeans face when moving now especially the overcrowding of houses. I have heard of 10 people living in a three bedroom house here in Athlone which certainly can't be healthy. Also I thought it was very good to see how those young brats declined the jobs picking vegetables but still blame foreigners for taking jobs.Although we can't really be sure whether or not that was done for the camera. One thing I enjoyed though was the new firebrigade of Gdansk. They could come to my rescue anytime :-)

AvJoeUK	Edited by: AvJoeUK Mar 12, 08, 04:19 / #
Watched it last night, them chavs were pathetic...deport 'em.

ShelleySThreads: 18 Posts: 3,647 Joined: Jun 26, 07	Mar 12, 08, 04:35 / #
The points raised I found interesting and quite funny were: When he was speaking to the guy in the car and said guy was saying how bad the area had gone - when asked if it was the Poles he said "no it’s the Brits the Poles are fine hard working decent people" When he was in the British club thingy and a Ms Patel was saying that immigration should be stopped from European countries and she nearly said Asian countries too but stopped short.......hmmmm was I missing something there? When he was outside the Job Centre and British scrotes seem to think they are above a hard days work - FFS - one of the foreigners who are steeling jobs was earning £2k a month....slightly above minimum wage I would say...oh and apparently Poles work for 50p Whilst it was quite tongue in cheek in some parts, it certainly showed that without migrant workers we would have problems... Im still wondering why they gravitate to that sh$thole Peterborough...yuk!

KilklineThreads: 3 Posts: 894 Joined: Jul 23, 07	Mar 12, 08, 05:43 / #
An enlightening bit was also when the mayor(?) of Gdansk came over to England to try and convince the room full of Poles to come back to Poland as there would be jobs for them. Their reaction was a bit more negative than he was expecting I think. They saw straight through him when he couldnt give them any definites rather than generalities. The big difference between living in England and going back to Poland for most of these guys was this key point. England definitely has jobs and a minimum salary, Poland, at the moment, can only offer maybes. The Poles were pragmatic about this and cynical about any promises made by a Polish politician. ShelleyS wrote: When he was outside the Job Centre and British scrotes seem to think they are above a hard days work - FFS - one of the foreigners who are steeling jobs was earning £2k a month....slightly above minimum wage I would say...oh and apparently Poles work for 50p It was also funny to think that these chavs were looking down on Polish farm workers however these farm workers had stepped above them in the general pecking order of British society. One of the Poles had two cars and its funny to think of him driving to work past the chav walking to the employment agency. Its plain to see whose children will be achieving more in 10-15 years.

ShelleySThreads: 18 Posts: 3,647 Joined: Jun 26, 07	Mar 12, 08, 06:26 / #
Kilkline wrote: One of the Poles had two cars That guy was acutally Lithuanian and not Polish - but I know what you mean, it really doesnt bode well, the work ethic of young men in this country leaves a lot to be desired..

szarlotkaThreads: 14 Posts: 3,349 Joined: Feb 20, 07	Mar 12, 08, 06:42 / #
AvJoeUK wrote: them chavs were pathetic...deport 'em. Who would take them?

ShelleySThreads: 18 Posts: 3,647 Joined: Jun 26, 07	Mar 12, 08, 06:48 / #
szarlotka wrote: Who would take them? Good point - can we just shoot them for fun instead???? Give the grouse a rest and shoot srotes instead :))))

szarlotkaThreads: 14 Posts: 3,349 Joined: Feb 20, 07	Mar 12, 08, 06:50 / #
ShelleyS wrote: Give the grouse a rest and shoot srotes instead I don't think the grouse and chav shooting seasons overlap so we should be OK.

KilklineThreads: 3 Posts: 894 Joined: Jul 23, 07	Mar 12, 08, 07:06 / #
ShelleyS wrote: Good point - can we just shoot them for fun instead???? Give the grouse a rest and shoot srotes instead :)))) I've got an idea for increasing the flammability of tracksuits if anyones interested? The slightest spark and WHOOSH!

Arien	Mar 12, 08, 07:29 / #
Ofcourse, no one intervieuws the English guys and girls who DO want to take every job they can get, because that would make it all too painfully clear wouldn't it? But that's media for you.