Poles, Irish and Police clash after NIreland beat Poland in the football.

irishdeano:

They have been rioting all day....Its belfast ones doing it because poles are catholics...Disgraceful seens im sickened by it.. Poles im sure also started rows cause there also known for it but its bit of problem if they want to live around belfast.... I come from North of Ireland myself but i support the republic of ireland football team...

cjjcThreads: 37 Posts: 463 Joined: Jul 26, 08	Edited by: Moderator Mar 28, 09, 22:26 / #
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7969871.stm Link. Fireworks have been thrown in clashes between football fans and the police after a World Cup qualifier at Windsor Park in Belfast. Between 50 and 60 Northern Irish fans have clashed with police at a roundabout at the bottom of Tates Avenue, outside the football ground.

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,726 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Edited by: Moderator Mar 28, 09, 22:30 / #
Could you get the link working, please cjjc?. the link seems OK

irishdeanoThreads: 11 Posts: 492 Joined: Oct 23, 07	Edited by: irishdeano Mar 28, 09, 23:42 / #
They have been rioting all day....Its belfast ones doing it because poles are catholics...Disgraceful seens im sickened by it.. Poles im sure also started rows cause there also known for it but its bit of problem if they want to live around belfast.... I come from North of Ireland myself but i support the republic of ireland football team...

KrzysztofThreads: 2 Posts: 1,146 Joined: Jul 26, 07	Edited by: Krzysztof Mar 29, 09, 00:23 / #
btw, the Swedish linesman was hit in the head by the NI supporters who threw an unidentified object soon after Jeleń scored for 1-1 (I guess those morons thought there was an offside and wanted to "punish" the linesman responsible for the decision), the game was stopped for about 3 minutes, then resumed, when they verified that there's no serious injury. No comments about the game, except stating the obvious - Boruc was the Man of the Match, he really helped N.I to score twice :(

irishdeanoThreads: 11 Posts: 492 Joined: Oct 23, 07	Mar 29, 09, 12:18 / #
Northern Ireland Sports Minister Gregory Campbell, who was at the game, told BBC News one confrontation began after some Polish supporters unfurled a republican flag. He said: "There were some Polish fans who introduced one of the Irish republican flags, that are supportive of the group that killed the soldiers and the policeman a few weeks ago Read this for some shit. First that Guy is from the DUP party. Because they produced a tri colour he is saying they were supportive of group. Biggest load of shit...He doesnt say about N Ireland fan throwing a coin at the linesman. scum

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,726 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Edited by: SeanBM Mar 29, 09, 12:27 / #
irishdeano: "There were some Polish fans who introduced one of the Irish republican flags, that are supportive of the group that killed the soldiers and the policeman a few weeks ago That is insane, are they so paranoid that Catholics will become a majority with the influx of Poles?. (Click here) for the BBC link. Superintendent Noble said "We believe there was a hard core of Polish nationals who came to the game without tickets but with a very clear intent to cause trouble and disruption to genuine supporters and local residents," he added. "We believe these troublemakers are not local; they have travelled to Northern Ireland with the express purpose of causing trouble."

Marcus911Threads: 1 Posts: 96 Joined: Feb 6, 08	Mar 29, 09, 12:51 / #
Thread attached on merging: POLISH FOOTBAL FANS GO ON THE RAMPAGE IN BELFAST Polish football hooligans trashed a Belfast pub yesterday afternoon ahead of a Match between Northern Ireland and Poland. They smashed windows and cost thousands of pounds of damage inside the interior of the pub. Later they were caught on camera throwing fireworks at the Police and some Polish fans raised a Flag associated with the CIRA, (Continuity Irish Republican Army ) who were responsible for murdering two British Soldiers and a Police man in separate attacks in Northern Ireland Last week. Many people were outraged at the flying of the CIRA flag and as a result some innocent Polish Families living in unionist areas had their properties attacked by Loyalist Thugs, ( The erection of this flag has outraged many communities in the North of Ireland and has caused suffering to many many Polish people who are trying to live normal lives. The brain dead people who flew this flag have encited these mindless thugs to see all people from Poland as supporters of the CIRA, who are terrorists trying to bring down the peace process here in Northern Ireland.

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,726 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Edited by: SeanBM Mar 29, 09, 12:57 / #
Marcus911: some Polish fans raised a Flag associated with the CIRA, No. Marcus911: CIRA, (Continuity Irish Republican Army ) who were responsible for murdering two British Soldiers and a Police man in separate attacks in Northern Ireland Last week. Again no and you conveniently left out that a Polish man was shot too. What does the CIRCA flag look like Marcus911?

dtaylorThreads: 15 Posts: 992 Joined: Sep 15, 07	Mar 29, 09, 12:58 / #
I wouldnt just put the blame on the N.I fans only, Polish fans have caused trouble in the past. This was a big game for both teams, so nerves didn't last on both sides.

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,213 Joined: Nov 16, 06	Mar 29, 09, 12:59 / #
Marcus911: All lies. Get out with this shit.

Ireland32Threads: 2 Posts: 234 Joined: Feb 23, 09	Mar 29, 09, 14:02 / #
I'd love to know what a CIRA flag looks like. I've lived here in Ireland most of my life and have yet to see one........looks like the propaganda war is revving up a gear again. Anyway looks like football was the loser all round on this occasion.

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,306 Joined: Apr 21, 08	Mar 29, 09, 14:51 / #
Ireland32: the propaganda war is revving up a gear again. have a look at kevs picture!

cubeThreads: 5 Posts: 43 Joined: Oct 13, 06	Mar 29, 09, 15:27 / #
Just to add to the topic... Eirigi where handing out leaflets in the city centre earlier in the day, where probably hoping to cause trouble later... Guess the Polish fans walked into the trap! Wetherspoon's pub = cheap drink = well known trouble spot = You could say there is fights there on any given day or night! http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/death-threat-to- celtic-star-boruc-before-windsor-game-14245780.html might help explain his bad game... other things to think about? This from the man of the Match... "to turn Windsor Park into a mini Ibrox" in order to rattle Boruc ... you can imagine the sectarian shite he had to listen to http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/spl/dundee-united/2009/03/03/dun dee-united-ace-warren-feeney-in-wind-up-call-over-artur-boruc-86908-21 167580/

Ireland32Threads: 2 Posts: 234 Joined: Feb 23, 09	Mar 29, 09, 15:31 / #
Eirigi are a small political party in the 32 counties. They are not aligned to any of the republican splinter groups. They broke way from Sinn Fein when we chose to support the policing board (PSNI).

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,726 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Mar 29, 09, 12:59 / #
dtaylor: I wouldnt just put the blame on the N.I fans only, The BBC would never do that. Where are you seeing the Poles not being blamed?.

Marcus911Threads: 1 Posts: 96 Joined: Feb 6, 08	Mar 29, 09, 13:24 / #
irishdeano: They have been rioting all day....Its belfast ones doing it because poles are catholics...Disgraceful seens im sickened by it.. Poles im sure also started rows cause there also known for it but its bit of problem if they want to live around belfast.... I come from North of Ireland myself but i support the republic of ireland football team... Hey mate you need to get your facts right, actually the Polish fans started the trouble here in a Belfast pub.. A few Polish fans flew a flag which supported the CIRA ( Continuity Irish Republican Army ) who murdered two British Solidiers and a Policeman just over a week ago.. This gives the mindless thugs from unionist areas an excuse to attack normal Polish families who they now see are supporters of the CIRA.. Idiots.

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,726 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Edited by: SeanBM Mar 29, 09, 13:42 / #
Marcus911: A few Polish fans flew a flag which supported the CIRA ( Continuity Irish Republican Army ) What does a CIRA flag look like?. Northern Ireland Sports Minister Gregory Campbell, who was at the game, told BBC News one confrontation began after some Polish supporters unfurled a republican flag. He said: "There were some Polish fans who introduced one of the Irish republican flags" From here BBC (click here) Marcus911: who murdered two British Solidiers and a Policeman just over a week ago.. It was not CIRA but the so called "real IRA" they also shot and wounded a Polish pizza delivery man or are these details escaping your rumours?. BBC Violence ahead of NI vs Poland match in Belfast. Listen to minute 3:14. "The northern Irish fans who tried to take on the police separately." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- I always love the way the BBC conduct their news. Look at this page Click here, the first photo is of Polish supporters, with white and red(Polish flags) Could have just have easily been the union jack (British flag) But that would have given the "wrong message".

dcchrisThreads: 11 Posts: 687 Joined: Oct 29, 07	Mar 29, 09, 13:53 / #
Krzysztof: Boruc was the Man of the Match that is funny for sure. with that prison tattoo on his neck what more could we expect. the guy seems to have lost the plot

Peter_HThreads: 3 Posts: 44 Joined: Oct 27, 08	Mar 29, 09, 14:06 / #
Marcus911: mate you need to get your facts right It's you that needs to get your facts straight. As many people above have said, what exactly does a CIRA flag look like? and where did you read that one was raised at the game?

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,306 Joined: Apr 21, 08	Edited by: time means Mar 29, 09, 14:19 / #
irishdeano: I come from North of Ireland myself but i support the republic of ireland football team... probably support Man utd as well? trouble at a football match,never! CIRA flag look like-tri-colour with c.i.r.a on it at a guess.

cjjcThreads: 37 Posts: 463 Joined: Jul 26, 08	Mar 29, 09, 14:48 / #
kev: A stupid thing to do by the Polish fans Very stupid.

PolskaManThreads: 3 Posts: 177 Joined: Jan 3, 09	Mar 29, 09, 16:04 / #
This is bs the on the BBC site it says Poles started this crap Then why did the irish start throwing stuff at the Polish soccer players after we scored?

VaFunkooloThreads: 7 Posts: 823 Joined: Mar 24, 08	Mar 29, 09, 16:12 / #
PolskaMan: This is bs the on the BBC site it says Poles started this crap Course it is mate, everybody knows the Poles are always innocent

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Mar 29, 09, 16:43 / #
No, it didn't say that Poles started it at all. "Police in riot gear are trying to push the Polish supporters back along the road". That's called policing funnily enough, not pointing fingers.

lesserThreads: 7 Posts: 2,014 Joined: Oct 19, 07	Mar 29, 09, 19:32 / #
kev: http://www.eirigi.org/ This is great example of left-wing nationalist party. People often associate nationalism exclusively with rightism and this is very wrong. Erigi use typical communist slogans like "class conflict", "reactionary forces", "bad, bad, bad capitalists", "confessional state" or "Irish landlords". They seems to hope to end religious divisions among Irish people, most likely by abandoning religion. This actually crush argument about sectarian motivation of above mentioned incident. Their motivation is purely nationalist, on their website they write about "English occupiers". I must say that ideologically they stand very close to ideals of the French revolution. This Pole with Erigi flag must be some ignorant or a complete loser. Thank you for posting this link, very interesting reading.

NathanThreads: 33 Posts: 1,846 Joined: Feb 13, 09	Mar 29, 09, 19:47 / #
If you can't play, you raise the fists - policy of youths. Show on the field what you are worth, not outside.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Mar 29, 09, 19:52 / #
This is gonna spark wider fights against innocent Poles in the area, not good.

Marcus911Threads: 1 Posts: 96 Joined: Feb 6, 08	Mar 29, 09, 22:19 / #
Peter_H: It's you that needs to get your facts straight. As many people above have said, what exactly does a CIRA flag look like? and where did you read that one was raised at the game? The Flag was a republican flag with CIRA written across it...

TrevekThreads: 33 Posts: 2,155 Joined: May 21, 08	Edited by: Trevek Mar 29, 09, 22:49 / #
Marcus911: The Flag was a republican flag with CIRA written across it... IF this is correct, it is something I found a lot with foreigners who came to NI, that they often have an idea of the Irish all being jolly chaps and go and down 20 odd pints of the black stuff and come away thinking the whole situation is black and white and the nasty old prods/brits are to blame for everything and never a nasty thing was done by anyone else... and what jolly fun it would be to start waving flags which they don't fully understand. Even more ironic (if correct) considering the recent shooting of a Pole by dissident republicans. An English lad I knew at Queens was once hassled by some Greeks, who started slagging him for all the things Britain had ever done to the Irish (they got a little bit miffed when he asked them about their own HR record with minorities). In the same block some international students thought it would be a good idea to hang a tri-colour from the window of the student halls. Not such a good idea as it faced a police barracks. A message was sent across the road by the RUC to say if the flag wasn't removed then they'd be across to remove it themselves.