Poles returning to the UK

Wroclaw Boy:

Supermarket giant, Tesco has today reported 15% increase in demand for Polish groceries compared to twelve months ago, suggesting that Poles are returning to the United Kingdom.

Just goes to show the grass isnt greener on the other side.

Seanus:

Flitting between countries hardly shows clear career progression/direction. I know the type that does it too. Using England as a bailout option is not that nice. Folks like WB, myself and others don't hop around. We stick it out through good times and bad, we ride the waves. We may have other future plans but we stay loyal to our contracts and short-term game plan. It really looks back jumping to and fro.

Seanus:

There'd be a hissyfit in the Sejm were so many Brits to come across in a oner.

Wroclaw BoyThreads: 57 Posts: 5,470 Joined: Jul 3, 09 MEMBER	Nov 26, 09, 16:34 / #
Supermarket giant, Tesco has today reported 15% increase in demand for Polish groceries compared to twelve months ago, suggesting that Poles are returning to the United Kingdom. http://www.fortis-media.com/akt,poles_returning_to_the_uk,2510.html Just goes to show the grass isnt greener on the other side.

derek trotterThreads: 12 Posts: 252 Joined: Apr 10, 09	Nov 26, 09, 16:38 / #
Wroclaw Boy old story, ( 1-2 month ago ) have you noticed question mark on the back of sentence?

Wroclaw BoyThreads: 57 Posts: 5,470 Joined: Jul 3, 09 MEMBER	Nov 26, 09, 16:55 / #
derek trotter: have you noticed question mark on the back of sentence? Yes I can think of many reasons why Poles would return to the UK, employment being one of them but id imagine many go home with thoughts of a great country massivly improved and all that. Problem is they return home to find the same old same old and think i was better off in England.

szkotja2007Threads: 38 Posts: 2,544 Joined: Dec 29, 06	Nov 26, 09, 17:06 / #
My local press ran a story recently that after a dip last year, Poles are migrating here again in number.

Wroclaw BoyThreads: 57 Posts: 5,470 Joined: Jul 3, 09 MEMBER	Nov 26, 09, 19:27 / #
szkotja2007: Poles are migrating here again in number. Its quite worrying really

szkotja2007Threads: 38 Posts: 2,544 Joined: Dec 29, 06	Nov 26, 09, 19:37 / #
Its a boost for the economy.

ShortHairThugThreads: - Posts: 1,374 Joined: May 1, 09	Nov 26, 09, 19:41 / #
Wroclaw Boy: Its quite worrying really Like Polish food products carried by Tesco are indicators of Polish mass migration to Britain again. Don’t you people have a more reliable source to back that up? If it’s such a bother place the restriction or quota on migrants and be done with it, no need for that PC crap and no need to worry.

MoonlightingThreads: 60 Posts: 308 Joined: Apr 28, 07	Edited by: Moonlighting Nov 26, 09, 19:51 / #
Maybe it's just the English ex-boyfriends and girlfriends of Polish immigrants who returned to Poland. They converted to Polish food during their relationships, and found out that it could be pretty good. Now they can't spend a week without their bigos, gołąbki, parówki and pierogi. All fed by unavoidable nostalgia ;-)...

Wroclaw BoyThreads: 57 Posts: 5,470 Joined: Jul 3, 09 MEMBER	Edited by: Wroclaw Boy Nov 26, 09, 20:12 / #
ShortHairThug: Like Polish food products carried by Tesco are indicators of Polish mass migration to Britain again. Im not suggesting that it is, there could be many reasons. It is a mild indication in any case, as the article says as many as 1.2m poles are estimated to have migrated but nobody really knows for sure. ShortHairThug: If it’s such a bother place the restriction or quota on migrants and be done with it, no need for that PC crap and no need to worry. Im not that bothered but it does worry me a little that so many Poles are intending on staying in my country for good. Britian just cant take it anymore.. You mention placing a restriction like its the easiest thing in the world. szkotja2007: Its a boost for the economy. I cant see how thats going to boost the economy only strain it even more.

derek trotterThreads: 12 Posts: 252 Joined: Apr 10, 09	Nov 26, 09, 22:43 / #
from today http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1231175/Record-number-people-l eave-Britain-Poles-going-home-drives-emigration-new-high.html is this source reliable?

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Nov 27, 09, 01:14 / #
There are waves on both sides. Some return from the UK and some return to the UK. Look no deeper!

Wroclaw BoyThreads: 57 Posts: 5,470 Joined: Jul 3, 09 MEMBER	Nov 27, 09, 01:20 / #
At the same time 505,000 foreign nationals - or 1,380 every day - arrived for an extended stay of 12 months or more. This easily outstripped the number leaving and meant that the number of foreigners living in the UK went up by 251,000 or 700 every day. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1231175/Record-number-people-l eave-Britain-Poles-going-home-drives-emigration-new-high.html#ixzz0Y0x w4fCf My country just cant take it anymore.

BartolomeThreads: 2 Posts: 1,345 Joined: Sep 14, 06	Nov 27, 09, 01:24 / #
Damn, it's only POLES POLES POLES in these f!%&#g rags. As if the POLES were the only immigrants here.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Nov 27, 09, 01:45 / #
It was an initial boost to the economy as they worked in sectors that were deficient in Scotland. However, the crisis turned everything on its head and consumers lost confidence. Tourism suffered and it was a domino effect. I know Scotland and I know that there just aren't enough jobs for everyone that is coming across.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Edited by: Seanus Nov 27, 09, 01:25 / #
Let's just hope they aren't seeking out benefits as my Scottish friend told me that they are overly generous on that front these days. Flitting between countries hardly shows clear career progression/direction. I know the type that does it too. Using England as a bailout option is not that nice. Folks like WB, myself and others don't hop around. We stick it out through good times and bad, we ride the waves. We may have other future plans but we stay loyal to our contracts and short-term game plan. It really looks back jumping to and fro. That's because the figures warrant commentary, Bart. There'd be a hissyfit in the Sejm were so many Brits to come across in a oner.

BritishEmpireThreads: - Posts: 195 Joined: Apr 26, 09	Nov 27, 09, 01:36 / #
szkotja2007: Its a boost for the economy. Please care to exaggerate.

OgorkiThreads: - Posts: 131 Joined: Aug 4, 08	Nov 27, 09, 01:54 / #
Wroclaw Boy: Supermarket giant, Tesco has today reported 15% increase in demand for Polish groceries compared to twelve months ago, suggesting that Poles are returning to the United Kingdom. Just goes to show the grass isnt greener on the other side. I'm a brit and all my brit friends love Kubus drinks, bigos, golabki etc. I'm sure we are not the only ones. God forbid if brits purchase polish groceries in pref. to brit groceries. Lets blame it on the so called returning poles. Seanus: Flitting between countries hardly shows clear career progression/direction. I know the type that does it too. Using England as a bailout option is not that nice. Folks like WB, myself and others don't hop around. We stick it out through good times and bad, we ride the waves. We may have other future plans but we stay loyal to our contracts and short-term game plan. It really looks back jumping to and fro. eeer, no. They come here to work. Yes, some end up on benefits but they learn quickly by brit example. Seanus: There'd be a hissyfit in the Sejm were so many Brits to come across in a oner. eeeer, no. There would not - because Poland ha no jobs because it is very poor after being completely destroyed 70 years ago in WWII after being abandoned by the allies. Brit men only go there for the women.

derek trotterThreads: 12 Posts: 252 Joined: Apr 10, 09	Nov 27, 09, 02:01 / #
Ogorki: Brit men only go there for the women. no, they do some native Englishe speaker jobs in schools of Engleze laguagese. Plenty of Poles learning English now, probably to get some kitchen porter jobs in UK in short future, so they don't go here only for the women

OgorkiThreads: - Posts: 131 Joined: Aug 4, 08	Nov 27, 09, 02:10 / #
derek trotter: Ogorki: Brit men only go there for the women. no, they do some native Englishe speaker jobs in schools of Engleze laguagese. Plenty of Poles learning English now, probably to get some kitchen porter jobs in UK in short future, so they don't go here only for the women ...what?

Wroclaw BoyThreads: 57 Posts: 5,470 Joined: Jul 3, 09 MEMBER	Nov 27, 09, 02:31 / #
Ogorki: I'm a brit and all my brit friends love Kubus drinks, bigos, golabki etc. So all your friends love what is it "Kubis" drinks, i have many friends in the UK and i couldnt tell you what fcuking brand of fruity drink they like. Its like hey Steve what brand of drink do you like, or do you mind if i check your fridge and/or cupboard so i can tick a box in my gay little survey book. Youre trying to give it the large with a name like Ogorki in the first fcuking place. Youre a parasite, no problem but dont try and cover it up with the bull **** excuses your used to using in your own fcuking country. Alwight gay polish boy, hey hey, dont fcuking lie anymore tah tah..

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Nov 27, 09, 07:59 / #
Only for the women? That's BS! I was lucky to find a cool one amongst those other hooked nose, almost nice, always ill, dour-faced moaners. That certainly wasn't in my initial plan to get a woman here. Just because you Polish guys jerk your chain over them, doesn't mean we do too. No, you learn by an online scamming document which is in widespread circulation. Check Google Video as many others have.

szkotja2007Threads: 38 Posts: 2,544 Joined: Dec 29, 06	Edited by: szkotja2007 Nov 27, 09, 11:56 / #
BritishEmpire: Please care to exaggerate. When the recession hit and the exchange rate was poor, Polish workers left to return to Poland. An increase in Polish workers indicates that the economy is recovering. They work, get paid, pay tax, spend their money etc etc In my area unemployment is at 2.5% - 1,6%. There is a problem with recruitment and retention due to the rural demographics. The picture may be different in London town and the like.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Nov 27, 09, 12:53 / #
They can spend beyond their means more easily in the UK. Ask Mister H, they get offered credit cards galore and leave a mess by people having to chase them up. I got frustrated with my neighbour who spent 400PLN on a friggin electronic toothbrush but she can't even pay her rent, she needs subs. She has kids too so I told her that I wasn't gonna help her out by buying it off of her. Some people just need to think a bit more. The problem is, they want to be flashier than their neighbour without the means. The globalists would love Poland where people have to plunge into debt unless I am missing sth. I just can't understand why you wouldn't want to work for a bit less in your home country but have access to your family and all other Polish things.

milkyThreads: 10 Posts: 1,224 Joined: Oct 26, 09	Nov 27, 09, 15:05 / #
A bit less??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

frdThreads: 8 Posts: 1,956 Joined: Feb 3, 09	Edited by: frd Nov 27, 09, 15:32 / #
Seanus: work for a bit less I dunno Seanus, junior programmer in a small city in UK earns 1500 - 2500GBP in here around 3000ZL... (a month ) I'd say it's a pretty big difference..

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Nov 27, 09, 15:43 / #
But is it really all about money?

frdThreads: 8 Posts: 1,956 Joined: Feb 3, 09	Edited by: frd Nov 27, 09, 15:59 / #
Seanus: But is it really all about money? For some it's not. But still I'm just commenting on your "bit less" for some people this might be counter weighted by "your hometown and friends" for some not. It is a big gap nonetheless...

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Nov 27, 09, 16:04 / #
The cost of living is much higher over in the UK, though.

frdThreads: 8 Posts: 1,956 Joined: Feb 3, 09	Nov 27, 09, 16:52 / #
I am well aware of that, but even though it is higher the gap between the salaries is still much bigger.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Nov 27, 09, 21:02 / #
So that's the main incentive then, money? Please don't tell me they go for cultural reasons. Well, maybe to Scotland ;0 ;)