"Polish ambassador warns - think twice about coming to Britain for work "

sledz:

Well Ill see you guys later I`m getting hungry. I think Ill go down to the park and catch myself a Swan:)

Juche:

one thing you may not know is that a few Western publications have gotten on the outsourcing bandwagon, they fire staff in England (or US) and have Indians in Bombay write the news stories for pennies on the dollar.

Lir	Sep 20, 09, 11:18 / #
Polish ambassador warns her countrymen 'think twice about coming to Britain for work' http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1214657/Polish-ambassador-warn s-countrymen-think-twice-coming-Britain.html It's an interesting article as the Ambassador also dispels a few myths associated with Polish people in the UK. :)

ArienThreads: 6 Posts: 1,604 Joined: Oct 20, 08	Sep 20, 09, 12:03 / #
Mail Online: ‘Or claims there is a Polish tradition of carrying knives. I had meetings with police chief constables around the country, and they said no, they did not have problems with knife crime.’ I'm sorry to disappoint you, but there actually is a tradition of carrying knifes among Polish guys. I've been hanging out with hundreds of Polish guys over here, and most of them carried a knife or a pocket knife. Although the constables are right, and knife crime is indeed relatively low. I think most of them carry a knife or a pocket knife just to have a sense of safety. I don't know, maybe it had to do something with the region they came from?

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Sep 20, 09, 12:28 / #
Well, the crisis was manipulated here too. The 'undesirables' were pitched out into the cold and cases which otherwise would have been fitting for unfair dismissal suits were seemingly legitimised under the guise of a crisis. Be under no illusions, it has been happening here. The only difference is language. They are more aware of what they are signing to.

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,213 Joined: Nov 16, 06	Sep 20, 09, 13:45 / #
Carrying a knife and stabbing somebody are two different things...

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,306 Joined: Apr 21, 08	Sep 20, 09, 13:51 / #
You would see big articles claiming swans are under threat because Poles are killing and eating them. That is outrageous,’ she said. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news Probably the very paper that started claim. The Poles are white and christian and thus easy to smear in the tabloid news without fear of a pc backlash.

OsiedleRuda	Sep 20, 09, 14:12 / #
Lazy journalism, complete with grammatical errors (as one respondent pointed out ;) ) as appears to be becoming more common over here these days. DailyFail: She also criticised ‘unjustified’ claims that Poles came just to send benefits home. Not exactly "unjustified" with in my experience, and not in the experience of certain members of my family, either. All of us deal with recent Polish immigrants as part of our respective jobs, and we've seen the change in the type of people who have come over during the last 5 years - so it's not surprising that a lot of Britsh people are sick of Poles - a lot of Poles are sick of them as well! Now THAT'S definitely something you wouldn't hear Asians say about Asians! If there's one thing we Poles do well, it's tell it how it is, even if it offends the easily-offended! :) Arien: I'm sorry to disappoint you, but there actually is a tradition of carrying knifes among Polish guys. I've been hanging out with hundreds of Polish guys over here, and most of them carried a knife or a pocket knife. True, and places like Kielce are well-known for knife crime. I've even met a Polish GIRL who carrried a knife! You only need to look at the graffiti in Polish cities to see that there is a huge gang problem developing there, and it's not just because of hip-hop pricks with short-man syndrome like Peja trying to be "ghetto blokersi" or whatever. DailyFail: Poles struggling for work in London How that photo proves that the people in the photo are "struggling for work" is beyond me. More likely that they are struggling to get to work, because a London bus is late. Yet again. If anything, they're struggling to develop dress-sense, but that's a Polish characteristic which isn't likely to change for a while. I'm surprised that they aren't dressed head-to-toe in denim, tbh. lol. Lir: dispels a few myths associated with Polish people in the UK Such as? I'm of Polish origin, and a lot of the "myths" are true imo, but they aren't exactly exclusive to Poles. I've never eaten a swan, though. LOL :)

sledzThreads: 29 Posts: 3,202 Joined: Sep 19, 06	Edited by: sledz Sep 20, 09, 14:40 / #
Lir: Polish ambassador warns her countrymen 'think twice about coming to Britain for work' Theyre just warning them that theyre better off staying home right now because there arent very many jobs in England due to the economy, its the same thing here in America. Arien: knifes among Polish guys. I've been hanging out with hundreds of Polish guys over here, and most of them carried a knife or a pocket knife. I have one also, although I never stabbed anybody:) Grzegorz_: Carrying a knife and stabbing somebody are two different things... Same goes for responsible gun owners:) OsiedleRuda: How that photo proves that the people in the photo are "struggling for work" is beyond me. More likely that they are struggling to get to work, Or standing around waiting for daily labor? That one guy doesnt look like hes missing too many meals either..lol OsiedleRuda: I'm surprised that they aren't dressed head-to-toe in denim, tbh. lol. Canadian Tuxedo...lol Well Ill see you guys later I`m getting hungry. I think Ill go down to the park and catch myself a Swan:)

ShawnHThreads: 9 Posts: 3,056 Joined: Jul 2, 09	Sep 20, 09, 14:48 / #
sledz: Canadian Tuxedo...lol feck you, hoser. :-)

JucheThreads: 13 Posts: 356 Joined: Feb 17, 09	Sep 20, 09, 14:55 / #
OsiedleRuda: Lazy journalism, complete with grammatical errors (as one respondent pointed out ;) ) as appears to be becoming more common over here these days. one thing you may not know is that a few Western publications have gotten on the outsourcing bandwagon, they fire staff in England (or US) and have Indians in Bombay write the news stories for pennies on the dollar.

OsiedleRuda	Sep 20, 09, 15:29 / #
sledz: Well Ill see you guys later I`m getting hungry. I think Ill go down to the park and catch myself a Swan:) Don't forget the Winiary seasoning for that "nowy lepszy smak", lol :) Juche: one thing you may not know is that a few Western publications have gotten on the outsourcing bandwagon, they fire staff in England (or US) and have Indians in Bombay write the news stories for pennies on the dollar. No, I didn't know that, but I wouldn't be at all surprised!

OsiedleRuda	Sep 20, 09, 18:02 / #
ShelleyS: We are exporting EVERYTHING. Except our undesirables, obviously ;)

sledzThreads: 29 Posts: 3,202 Joined: Sep 19, 06	Edited by: sledz Sep 20, 09, 18:18 / #
Arien: I never needed one, and I'm pretty sure I never will. You dont have mexican gangs sneeking into your country, Im moving into a better neighborhood in a few weeks:) ShelleyS: A friend of mine works for Accenture near Manchester airport and they have just made all the secretaries redundant and all the support now comes from Bombay An outsourcing company outsourced itself? I hate, for example: Dell computers, I had to call tech support and they linked me to some fuk in bombay. I could barley understand a word he was saying?? I finally got a so called English speaking manager and he didnt jack **** about the computer!

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,412 Joined: Aug 29, 07	Sep 20, 09, 18:36 / #
sledz: I could barley understand a word he was saying?? they actually speak english there so i am not sure if that is their fault. ;) :D

ShelleySThreads: 18 Posts: 3,647 Joined: Jun 26, 07	Sep 20, 09, 18:41 / #
plk123: they actually speak english there so i am not sure if that is their fault. ;) :D Very poor quality. They also do not know the reality of the countries of the people they are talking to, my ex rang about his electric bill to a foreign call centre, the bill he received was for 4 weeks use of electricity, it was for £300...now anyone in the UK would know that, that is a little excessive to say the least, but they really couldnt grasp that... Another instance a friend of my got broadband from BT (what a joke) and the call centre was in India, after 2 weeks of getting no where she demanded to be put through to a call centre in the UK...they guy sorted it in 2 minutes! This is why I will always stay will O2 and all my utilities are with UK based call centres and my bank! you pay for what you get!

ArienThreads: 6 Posts: 1,604 Joined: Oct 20, 08	Sep 20, 09, 16:21 / #
Grzegorz_: Carrying a knife and stabbing somebody are two different things... I know. sledz: I have one also, although I never stabbed anybody:) I never needed one, and I'm pretty sure I never will. :)

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,306 Joined: Apr 21, 08	Edited by: time means Sep 20, 09, 16:53 / #
Grzegorz_: Carrying a knife Why on earth would you want to carry one anyway? " Just nipping out for a pint, keys, wallet, knife, all set".

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Sep 20, 09, 17:05 / #
Well, when you know that the other guy has one, Greg, simpletons tend to even the odds. Glasgow still has a knife culture and it's hard to fully crackdown on. There have been clampdowns but with mixed success.

ShelleySThreads: 18 Posts: 3,647 Joined: Jun 26, 07	Edited by: ShelleyS Sep 20, 09, 17:22 / #
OsiedleRuda: No, I didn't know that, but I wouldn't be at all surprised! A friend of mine works for Accenture near Manchester airport and they have just made all the secretaries redundant and all the support now comes from Bombay...needless the say the guys they are supporting as less then happy. We are exporting EVERYTHING.

ArienThreads: 6 Posts: 1,604 Joined: Oct 20, 08	Sep 20, 09, 18:41 / #
sledz: You dont have mexican gangs sneeking into your country, True, but it's not like it's any safer over here these days. I'm not proud of it, but I don't think it's a mystery to anyone that Holland is actually the biggest exporter of all sorts of drugs in all of Europe? Suffice to say, it's pretty easy to get in trouble here, if you don't know who your friends are.. sledz: Im moving into a better neighborhood in a few weeks:) Glad to hear! (I guess your business is doing well?) :)

sledzThreads: 29 Posts: 3,202 Joined: Sep 19, 06	Edited by: sledz Sep 20, 09, 18:43 / #
plk123: am not sure if that is their fault Hey Ive been into plenty of laundromats and 7-11`s in my time but I dont know wtf he was saying..lol Lir: 'think twice about coming to Britain for work' Are things really that bad in Poland they everybody wants to leave to the UK or US?? Why dont they just stay there and try to make it better? The grass isnt always greener on the other side of the fence.

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,412 Joined: Aug 29, 07	Edited by: plk123 Sep 20, 09, 18:45 / #
sledz: Are things really that bad in Poland they everybody want to leave to the UK or US?? yeah.. no jobs or they pay so little that it's hard to survive. ShelleyS: Very poor quality. not at all.. it's really just another accent. sexy, no? :D

sledzThreads: 29 Posts: 3,202 Joined: Sep 19, 06	Sep 20, 09, 18:52 / #
plk123: yeah.. no jobs or they pay so little that it's hard to survive. I dont care if they come to the US:) Most Poles arent part of any drug cartels or smuggle guns in with them. We have room but not many jobs

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,213 Joined: Nov 16, 06	Sep 20, 09, 18:53 / #
sledz: Are things really that bad in Poland they everybody wants to leave to the UK or US?? Everybody already left. We're just bots installed here to cover the big lie.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Sep 20, 09, 18:55 / #
Lir has a good point. Still, the Poles go for money most of the time and that's rather lame. They love their food, they love the nature here, they love their families and also their national events. They give up everything for money. Living in the UK isn't that cheap either.

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,412 Joined: Aug 29, 07	Sep 20, 09, 19:06 / #
sledz: I dont care if they come to the US:) Most Poles arent part of any drug cartels or smuggle guns in with them. We have room but not many jobs there is polish mafia in chicago, just in case you didn't know. :)

sledzThreads: 29 Posts: 3,202 Joined: Sep 19, 06	Edited by: sledz Sep 20, 09, 19:07 / #
Seanus: They give up everything for money. Ya, I noticed when these guys come over here and start working, Then right away they have to buy a new car, motorcycle or big ticket item, instead of saving. Is it because they have to show off or because they never had anything? plk there is polish mafia in chicago, just in case you didn't know. :) theres alot going on that I rather not talk about either:)

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,412 Joined: Aug 29, 07	Sep 20, 09, 19:09 / #
sledz: they have to show off yes, the Jones' syndrome.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Sep 20, 09, 19:11 / #
Many send money home from the UK but WB ran a thread about them rolling the dice and using what they have in the UK to get a better motor etc etc. I think it's a bit of both. The young want to flash their wealth and others want a taste of what many in the West have known for some time.

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,412 Joined: Aug 29, 07	Sep 20, 09, 19:13 / #
sledz: theres alot going on that I rather not talk about either:) you've been made? :D :D

OsiedleRuda	Sep 20, 09, 19:17 / #
Seanus: The young want to flash their wealth and others want a taste of what many in the West have known for some time. What, like having to pay 60% of your wages in rent to some private scumlord for a sh**hole on a crack-ridden estate? Or borrowing 8x your salary to buy a box room? Yeah, welcome to the wonderful UK, where the streets are paved in gold and everyone's rich!