Polish chef jailed for double rape in Leeds.

lexi:

There are "nutters" everywhere and in every walk of life.

lexi:

It just becomes sensationalised and sells downmarket tabloids if the nutter comes from Poland, something a bit different.

lexi:

which is a person has been traumatised, probably for the rest of her life, and may need councelling for the rest of her life, but of course this is insignificant because it does not sell newspapers.

jonniThreads: 26 Posts: 4,181 Joined: Nov 27, 07	Edited by: Moderator Apr 24, 09, 18:18 / #
Leeds double rapist jailed for 10 years 24 April 2009 A POLISH chef who brutally raped two prostitutes within hours in Leeds city centre has been jailed for ten years. Leeds Crown Court heard Jacob Luniewski, 26, of Holbeck, was a "model European citizen" with a wife and young family who had come to the UK to earn cash and better themselves. After finishing work as a chef at a city centre restaurant late one night last November Luniewski got drunk before setting off home towards the Hilton Hotel. rest of story here

frdThreads: 8 Posts: 1,956 Joined: Feb 3, 09	Apr 24, 09, 18:31 / #
I hope he's gonna die in there the same way as the polish rapist from Edin.. few weeks ago

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,188 Joined: Jun 7, 07	Apr 24, 09, 20:11 / #
Apart from the victims of this animal , i feel sorry for his family , and Polish people living in the UK , who might be a little less welcome there after incidents such as this....

thebear45Threads: 2 Posts: 95 Joined: Apr 22, 09	Edited by: thebear45 Apr 24, 09, 20:15 / #
10 years for ths?? seems to much, they are prostitute. who kno what happen??

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,188 Joined: Jun 7, 07	Apr 24, 09, 20:23 / #
thebear45: seems to much, they are prostitute. Oh , well that makes it ok then...and as for who know what happen , the girls he raped know what happen , as do the Police and the courts that found him guilty.... In the UK its illegal to rape anybody , no matter who they are , maybe its different in your country , but it didn,t happen in your country.....

PolskaDollThreads: 44 Posts: 4,134 Joined: Jun 15, 07	Edited by: PolskaDoll Apr 24, 09, 20:28 / #
thebear45: they are prostitute They are human and were forced into a sexual act so therefore a crime was committed against them. wildrover: In the UK its illegal to rape anybody , no matter who they are Exactly.

thebear45Threads: 2 Posts: 95 Joined: Apr 22, 09	Edited by: thebear45 Apr 24, 09, 20:29 / #
in albania, prostituted women are seen as lower. the y make the money by cheatin and sleepin wit strangers. if they dont get there money, this is rape. so who kno what happen? maybe the man did not hurt thes woman. maybe it happen by someon else. all i saying. i think they must serch for more detail. the woman maybe lies.

Wroclaw Boy	Apr 24, 09, 20:33 / #
thebear45: in albania, prostituted women are seen as lower. This is not Albania mate its Great Britian.

PolskaDollThreads: 44 Posts: 4,134 Joined: Jun 15, 07	Apr 24, 09, 20:37 / #
thebear45: i think they must serch for more detail. the woman maybe lies. It seems pretty clear it was him. thebear45: in albania, prostituted women are seen as lower. They may well be but this happened in the UK and as far as I'm aware there were no Albanians involved.

gumishuThreads: 17 Posts: 3,943 Joined: Apr 6, 09	Apr 24, 09, 20:51 / #
I have heard stories of how rejected English women would accuse Polish guys of rape as a form of vengance - this does not look the case here though

hairballThreads: 37 Posts: 787 Joined: Dec 16, 07	Apr 24, 09, 21:41 / #
jonni: Leeds double rapist jailed for 10 years They'll probably send this ******* back to Poland and he'll get released in a few weeks. Bacause here in Poland rape is just a casual crime! Right Łukasz? Lukasz: Our court decided that it was causal case.

mephiasThreads: 15 Posts: 812 Joined: Nov 14, 08 MEMBER	Apr 24, 09, 22:22 / #
It's a crime and has a punishment. Why should it give an idea about polish people ? Aren't there any English rapist in England.

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,955 Joined: May 17, 07	Apr 24, 09, 22:46 / #
thebear45: southern: In Albania they would get Kalshnikov up their arse. you are a stupid man. time changed. When?2 years ago?

TrevekThreads: 33 Posts: 2,155 Joined: May 21, 08	Apr 26, 09, 18:38 / #
freebird: I feel deeply sorry for my British cousins for having to put up with scumbags like this living in your country. Problem is that we also have a load of homegrown scumbags like this too.

PennBoyThreads: 157 Posts: 3,440 Joined: Dec 7, 08	Apr 24, 09, 20:57 / #
jonni: A POLISH chef who brutally raped two prostitutes Hmm, i've heard that jack the Ripper was actually a Polish guy, is this true

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,188 Joined: Jun 7, 07	Apr 24, 09, 21:22 / #
thebear45: maybe the man did not hurt thes woman. He dragged one to the ground by her hair , the second one had her finger broken as he twisted her arm up her back....It might be considered fun in Albania , but this was the UK , and people from other countries have to obey the law , or face the courts for their crimes....

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,955 Joined: May 17, 07	Apr 24, 09, 21:23 / #
wildrover: the second one had her finger broken as he twisted her arm up her back....It might be considered fun in Albania In Albania they would get Kalshnikov up their arse.

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,188 Joined: Jun 7, 07	Apr 24, 09, 21:27 / #
PennBoy: i've heard that jack the Ripper was actually a Polish guy There was a Polish man among the suspects , also a doctor and a member of the English royal family....but nobody has been proved to be the Ripper....

thebear45Threads: 2 Posts: 95 Joined: Apr 22, 09	Edited by: thebear45 Apr 24, 09, 21:30 / #
southern: In Albania they would get Kalshnikov up their arse. you are a stupid man. time changed.

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,188 Joined: Jun 7, 07	Apr 24, 09, 22:27 / #
mephias: Why should it give an idea about polish people ? It shouldn,t , but you know what people can be like....there are people in the UK who resent the Poles coming to UK and working and living there , stuff like this getting in the news will just give some idiots more reason to shout Poles go home.....!

lexiThreads: 1 Posts: 188 Joined: Feb 17, 09	Apr 24, 09, 23:05 / #
mephias: Aren't there any English rapist in England. There are "nutters" everywhere and in every walk of life. It just becomes sensationalised and sells downmarket tabloids if the nutter comes from Poland, something a bit different. It actually detracts from the main issue, which is a person has been traumatised, probably for the rest of her life, and may need councelling for the rest of her life, but of course this is insignificant because it does not sell newspapers.

PolskaDollThreads: 44 Posts: 4,134 Joined: Jun 15, 07	Apr 24, 09, 23:38 / #
lexi: There are "nutters" everywhere and in every walk of life. Absolutely. lexi: It just becomes sensationalised and sells downmarket tabloids if the nutter comes from Poland, something a bit different. That's right, they just like to highlight Polish nutters even though there are less of them than British nutters. In Britain anyway. It's also a bit worrying. Some British clowns who read and swear by the tabloids then start to just see "Polish person did negative that, Polish person did negative this" coupled with all the junk about Poles taking jobs etc. and all of a sudden there's an attack on some innocent Polish person? Why? Because a bad Polish person did something. The tabloid press ought to be restricted on their sensationalism. lexi: which is a person has been traumatised, probably for the rest of her life, and may need councelling for the rest of her life, but of course this is insignificant because it does not sell newspapers. Exactly. The victims don't even get a look in.

TrevekThreads: 33 Posts: 2,155 Joined: May 21, 08	Apr 26, 09, 17:15 / #
thebear45: 10 years for ths?? seems to much, they are prostitute. who kno what happen?? I think it shows a great improvement in the law that sex-workers are seen as equal victims. Not too long back many judges would have said the same as thebear.

freebirdThreads: 3 Posts: 638 Joined: Jun 8, 07	Apr 26, 09, 17:34 / #
jonni: Polish chef jailed for double rape in Leeds. I feel deeply sorry for my British cousins for having to put up with scumbags like this living in your country.

freebirdThreads: 3 Posts: 638 Joined: Jun 8, 07	Apr 26, 09, 19:08 / #
Trevek: Problem is that we also have a load of homegrown scumbags like this too. everyone has but at least they're your own scumbags :-)

TrevekThreads: 33 Posts: 2,155 Joined: May 21, 08	Apr 26, 09, 19:19 / #
freebird: everyone has but at least they're your own scumbags :-) Yeah, that's the problem... they can't be deported.

whiteandproud	Apr 28, 09, 22:38 / #
You cannot rape a prostitute, the actual term is theft, taking goods without paying.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Apr 28, 09, 22:43 / #
Of course you can rape a prostitute. If she didn't give her consent and you forcibly penetrated her with your penis then it's rape.

polishcanuckThreads: 10 Posts: 583 Joined: Feb 11, 07	Apr 28, 09, 23:26 / #
Wow 10 years, that's a light sentence. Is this normal for the UK? In canada it's 25 years minimum for rape. In some US states, you could get life in prison or the death penalty.

niejestemcapitaThreads: 3 Posts: 666 Joined: Jan 3, 09	Edited by: niejestemcapita Apr 28, 09, 23:28 / #
polishcanuck: Wow 10 years, that's a light sentence. Is this normal for the UK? yeh I think this is quite a long sentence for rape in the UK, must have been violent, who knows>?