A question to immigrants

Lodz_The_Boat:

Composed of citizens of this world. Made up of democratically elected members, with special election systems. In this system, a particular village can form its own Local Government. Several Local Governments can form a particular Regional Government. Members of these Regional Government elect the members of the World Government.

All these without any kind of campaign...declaring campaigns illegal. The only measure to recognise someone should be his/her ground work.

Each Regional Government must not have more than 9 members. Therefore... no region (no matter the population) can enforce itself more strongly than the other smaller one.

IronsE11Threads: 2 Posts: 799 Joined: Mar 3, 08	Apr 30, 08, 18:23 / #
tornado2007: the question was asked 'why would you prefer to employ a british plumber than a polish one??' so i answered why i would employ a british plumber. If the Polish want to do that with their money its their choice, so therfore it should be my choice on who i employ??? Of course it's your choice I'm of the opinion that the rational, sensible thing to do is employ the plumber who offers the best service or the best value for money service. That could be either. Maybe I should instead think about doing my bit for the economy...

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Apr 30, 08, 18:24 / #
There u go, that's as rational a response as u can get

tornado2007Threads: 20 Posts: 3,497 Joined: Jul 11, 07	Apr 30, 08, 18:25 / #
Seanus: the Poles are a bit cheaper and know their trade well i'm sure they are and i'm sure they do. I have nothing against polish plumbers or in fact any other plumber from where ever he/she may hail from. Cowboys come from everywhere and good plumbers come from everywhere. Please do not feel like i am criticising the skills of the Polish workers because i am not

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Apr 30, 08, 19:20 / #
They are well trained as they have zawodowy schools here

z_dariusThreads: 22 Posts: 5,091 Joined: Oct 18, 07	Apr 30, 08, 22:09 / #
waiddaminute! weren't Polish plumbers supposed to stay in Poland and take care of French tourists?

movetopolandThreads: 1 Posts: 12 Joined: Sep 11, 09	Edited by: movetopoland Sep 26, 09, 16:35 / #
The anti-immigration camp are a minority. The English are a race of explorers, it dates back from centuries of sea exploration from the British empire days. This is still ingrained into our culture today and is the reason why we welcome immigrants to this country, the majority of us like to experience the unknown, it's the reason why we have policies in place to protect foreign cultures entering into Britain. A vast majority of us are happy to see Polish people here as it's another culture we can assimilate into our own. To be British is to explore the new. Don't let the nationalists / racists put you off coming to the UK, they are not real Brits, they are outcasts. If ever you see racism in the streets the majority of the time you will see ethnic white Brits protesting against it because it goes against our core values. In recent times more Asian and black people are calling themselfs British because they except that we strive to extend our culture to include theirs. This is why we have the race relations act and the reason why we celebrate ethnic cultural events, we have made those events British too. We are already starting to include aspects of Poland here, such as services available in the Polish language, Polish cultural events and Polish food in our major supermarkets. The government here has even made efforts to reach out to the people of Poland to entice them to come here.

Mister HThreads: 11 Posts: 845 Joined: Jan 4, 08	Sep 26, 09, 21:32 / #
movetopoland: The anti-immigration camp are a minority. There is a huge difference between being anti-immigration (which I am not against) and anti-uncontrolled-immigration (which I am against). Also, that tends to be the majority view of those I know and work with and I like to think that I tend to mix with normal, rational people as oppose to irrational, foaming at the mouth, nationalistic head-cases. More people, in my experience, are against uncontrolled immigration than are in favour of it. movetopoland: This is still ingrained into our culture today and is the reason why we welcome immigrants to this country See above. We welcome immigration, but we want it managed and controlled. movetopoland: We are already starting to include aspects of Poland here, such as services available in the Polish language, Polish cultural events and Polish food in our major supermarkets A handful of leaflets printed by the council and a couple of shelves in Tesco, Sanisbury's etc and banks like Lloyds TSB have had to recruit loads of Polish speakers to deal with those that are up to their necks in debt.

free palestineThreads: - Posts: 61 Joined: Jan 14, 09	Oct 6, 09, 15:47 / #
uk_1993_: Don't get me wrong if its a choice between a White, European Christian and a Black Muslim I'd rather have the White Christian but it seems EU immigrants (namely Poles) are coming here and (admittedly) working very hard, the black or brown or yellow skinned muslims,bhuddists,hindus built this shithole called UK.first you went and invaded and raided their countries under the british empire of everything that was of value,then later,when you had enjoyed your bounty and got fat and lazy and didnt want to work your country called the very same people it screwed over to come and help.we built this country pal,whoever is coming in today is here just to milk it dry and then **** xxx back home.

LAGirlThreads: 13 Posts: 598 Joined: Apr 11, 08	Oct 6, 09, 21:14 / #
At least the Polish arent lazy they work hard and they dont abuse the welfare system most of them are honest.

OsiedleRuda	Oct 6, 09, 21:52 / #
LAGirl: At least the Polish arent lazy they work hard and they dont abuse the welfare system most of them are honest. True, but unfortunately there are now so many Poles here in the UK that the minority who are lazy, useless, unemployable, uneducated dresiarze scum are now a noticeable minority, and it is these wasters who are giving us Poles a bad name here in the UK. Even if you are only talking about 5%, that can mean as many as 50000 people (depending on who you believe regarding the number of Poles in the UK). That's an entire town. No-one took any notice of us when there were about 200000 of us in the whole of the UK (i.e. before May 2004), yet most people could say they knew someone Polish, or knew where the local Polish church, clubs and shops were. And it was extremely rare to hear anything said against us - why would they bother, when other communities caused far more problems? Now we are seen as the "new ni**ers" by many. Which is why, if you speak to earlier generations such as mine, you will hear resentment even towards our own people. But of course, business leaders and politicians will never tell you that, because all they hear is the sound of £££££ in the till.

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,955 Joined: May 17, 07	Edited by: southern Oct 7, 09, 23:21 / #
Lodz wants a government made by 5 Indians,3 pakis,1 chinese and him in the cabinet.(and a German with a whip).

Lodz_The_BoatThreads: 58 Posts: 2,314 Joined: Sep 7, 08	Oct 8, 09, 08:50 / #
southern: Lodz wants a government made by 5 Indians,3 pakis,1 chinese and him in the cabinet.(and a German with a whip). No. I want a government with a parliament, with members from every nation. There will be Poles, Indians, Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Brits, Russian, Americans, South Americans, Africans, Australians.... we al wil work for the betterment of the world ... for our common interest. There is no way we can prosper without unity.

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,955 Joined: May 17, 07	Edited by: southern Oct 8, 09, 09:32 / #
Lodz_The_Boat: want a government with a parliament, with members from every nation. There will be Poles, Indians, Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Brits, Russian, Americans, South Americans, Africans, Australians.... we al wil work for the betterment of the world ... for our common interest. I suppose then you want a parliament with 1000 chinese members and 38 polish. And who will be the president?Halil Abdhal deyoung che guil chu lao?

RevokeNiceThreads: 21 Posts: 2,765 Joined: Jun 20, 09	Oct 8, 09, 11:25 / #
Lodz_The_Boat: The recognision of the common race ... Human Race. To hell with your we are the world BS. To hell with you.

LAGirlThreads: 13 Posts: 598 Joined: Apr 11, 08	Oct 7, 09, 20:35 / #
Wow I didnt know. the guy I am with he is old school Polish he says that all Polish people work are smart are educated and this and that I would love him to see what your wrote.

OsiedleRuda	Oct 7, 09, 20:50 / #
LAGirl: Wow I didnt know. the guy I am with he is old school Polish he says that all Polish people work are smart are educated and this and that I would love him to see what your wrote. Yes, but I'm only talking about the UK, I've never even been to the USA so what would I know about the Polish-American experience? And anyway, I thought you had given him the boot :)

Lodz_The_BoatThreads: 58 Posts: 2,314 Joined: Sep 7, 08	Oct 7, 09, 20:52 / #
The World Is But One Country And Mankind Its Citizens!

joepilsudskiThreads: 44 Posts: 2,529 Joined: Apr 27, 07	Oct 7, 09, 20:56 / #
Lodz_The_Boat: The World Is But One Country And Mankind Its Citizens! Then you will have a World Government and it will tell you what your rights are!

Foreigner4Threads: 22 Posts: 1,984 Joined: Nov 18, 07	Oct 7, 09, 20:57 / #
tornado2007: hay mate to be honest i can totally sympathise with people in your position, believe me i do, i'm on here always talking about immigration here immigrants there. I do feel though that you could make your point in a more mature manner and not make yourself and other people who have the same frustrations as you look slightly stupid by the language and over aggressive manner. well said. sorry i'm late to the whole thing but just can't be arsed to read beyond the opening sallies.

Lodz_The_BoatThreads: 58 Posts: 2,314 Joined: Sep 7, 08	Oct 7, 09, 22:08 / #
joepilsudski: World Government Composed of citizens of this world. Made up of democratically elected members, with special election systems. In this system, a particular village can form its own Local Government. Several Local Governments can form a particular Regional Government. Members of these Regional Government elect the members of the World Government. All these without any kind of campaign...declaring campaigns illegal. The only measure to recognise someone should be his/her ground work. Each Regional Government must not have more than 9 members. Therefore... no region (no matter the population) can enforce itself more strongly than the other smaller one. Firstly the sense of UNITY must come. The recognision of the common race ... Human Race.

ShawnHThreads: 9 Posts: 3,056 Joined: Jul 2, 09	Oct 7, 09, 22:13 / #
Lodz_The_Boat: Composed of citizens of this world. Made up of democratically elected members, with special election systems. In this system, a particular village can form its own Local Government. Several Local Governments can form a particular Regional Government. Members of these Regional Government elect the members of the World Government. All these without any kind of campaign...declaring campaigns illegal. The only measure to recognise someone should be his/her ground work. Each Regional Government must not have more than 9 members. Therefore... no region (no matter the population) can enforce itself more strongly than the other smaller one. Not the world government I think we are all aware of. Your pipe dream will never work. Why would one superpower (China, Russia, US, Luxembourg etc...) give up the power they have and hand it over to somebody in Tanzania?

El GamalThreads: 2 Posts: 32 Joined: Jul 1, 07	Oct 8, 09, 00:24 / #
@uk_1993_: You seem to claim, that Poles are responsible for British hate for them. So Jews were responsible for German hate and for the Holocaust, right? Can't you see, that all the problem lays in those Brits acting like you?