Scotland encouraging immigration.

PolskaDoll:

Private pension? Because the state one won't buy you bread and milk by the time I get round to retiring.

If you're referring to why we might want more immigrants - I refer you to a previous post, Scotland is way underpopulated...

PolskaDoll:

Now I need to explain what benefits boosting the population will bring...no, I think you can search that one yourself, figure it out for yourself..

szkotja2007Threads: 38 Posts: 2,544 Joined: Dec 29, 06	Jul 26, 09, 20:36 / #
There is to be a consultation process on the proposal, but in his article Mr Murphy writes of the demographic challenge facing Scotland, with an ageing population and the need to recruit in sectors such as tourism. Immigrants coming to Scotland could earn extra points towards UK citizenship applications. Witamy

Del boyThreads: 22 Posts: 318 Joined: Jun 29, 07	Jul 26, 09, 20:45 / #
1576, remember Scots

szkotja2007Threads: 38 Posts: 2,544 Joined: Dec 29, 06	Jul 26, 09, 20:59 / #
yep, worth posting this link again. 1576

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Jul 26, 09, 21:03 / #
The good thing for immigrants is that we have a relatively stable tourism industry and jobs are there for the taking. It's not like we are filled with seasonal work which is good for those who are just passing through. Competition is fierce but at least the jobs are there.

Jihozapad	Jul 26, 09, 21:21 / #
What about the millions of Welsh, English and Irish unemployed? Why does the Scottish tourism industry have to go abroad? Or is that a stupid question?

szkotja2007Threads: 38 Posts: 2,544 Joined: Dec 29, 06	Jul 26, 09, 21:34 / #
Scotland has different demographics to the rest of the UK.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Jul 26, 09, 22:04 / #
I've seen people from the Baltic States plus Poland working in Inverness and they do a good job. They are probably paid fractionally less than most natives but they are willing to be so. As my brethren said, Scotland has different demographics and that can't be overstated.

RevokeNiceThreads: 21 Posts: 2,765 Joined: Jun 20, 09	Edited by: RevokeNice Jul 26, 09, 22:11 / #
The invasion continues. Violence may be only around the corner, what is the unemployment rate in Scotland?

FredChopinThreads: - Posts: 138 Joined: Jul 26, 09	Jul 26, 09, 22:12 / #
Maybe time to storm parliament? With pitchforks and torches.

RevokeNiceThreads: 21 Posts: 2,765 Joined: Jun 20, 09	Jul 26, 09, 22:14 / #
FredChopin No.

dtaylor5632Threads: 49 Posts: 4,459 Joined: May 2, 09	Jul 26, 09, 22:56 / #
RevokeNice: mass unemployment? Its much lower as he says than most of the E.U and any part of the UK.

PolskaDollThreads: 44 Posts: 4,134 Joined: Jun 15, 07	Edited by: PolskaDoll Jul 26, 09, 22:57 / #
RevokeNice: Jesus christ. The author wants more immigrants even though Scotland has mass unemployment? He should be up for treason. Oct-Dec 2008 employment was 75.4%... That's high especially in this climate. Just to reassure you RN, we took on a new Polish girl a couple of weeks ago, we've just increased the hours of another of our Polish workers (he's doing great! :) but we did employ a Scottish chap too. ;) LMGTFY- great site. ;)

PolskaDollThreads: 44 Posts: 4,134 Joined: Jun 15, 07	Jul 26, 09, 23:01 / #
RevokeNice: Scotland for the Scottish! You stick to Ireland RN. The Scots are doing fine.

RevokeNiceThreads: 21 Posts: 2,765 Joined: Jun 20, 09	Edited by: RevokeNice Jul 26, 09, 23:17 / #
PolskaDoll: You stick to Ireland RN. The Scots are doing fine. Are they yeah? News to me, keep paying your tax to Betty Windsor. This is actually good news, I will forward the link to every foreigner in my email address book. Little acorns and all that.

szkotja2007Threads: 38 Posts: 2,544 Joined: Dec 29, 06	Jul 26, 09, 22:42 / #
RevokeNice: what is the unemployment rate in Scotland? Immigrants steal Google in Ireland The employment rate is a better guide - now at 74.4%, higher than that of the UK most of the EU.

RevokeNiceThreads: 21 Posts: 2,765 Joined: Jun 20, 09	Jul 26, 09, 22:50 / #
szkotja2007 Jesus christ. The author wants more immigrants even though Scotland has mass unemployment? He should be up for treason.

RevokeNiceThreads: 21 Posts: 2,765 Joined: Jun 20, 09	Jul 26, 09, 23:00 / #
szkotja2007 Bravo, well played. dtaylor5632 That is not really a good statistic to use, the EU is in the grips of a recession. Scotland for the Scottish!

PolskaDollThreads: 44 Posts: 4,134 Joined: Jun 15, 07	Jul 26, 09, 23:20 / #
RevokeNice: Are they yeah? Apart from needing to increase our population we're doing alright mostly.

szkotja2007Threads: 38 Posts: 2,544 Joined: Dec 29, 06	Jul 26, 09, 23:22 / #
House prices up , car sales up etc etc. Not out of the woods yet but getting there despite London( drink more Johnnie Walker ). RevokeNice: keep paying your tax to Betty Windsor Its only a temporary thing.

RevokeNiceThreads: 21 Posts: 2,765 Joined: Jun 20, 09	Edited by: RevokeNice Jul 26, 09, 23:22 / #
PolskaDoll: Apart from needing to increase our population we're doing alright mostly. Come here genius, what happens when the immigrants age and need pensions? Who is going to pay for that? More immigrants? Eastern Europe has a dangerously low birth rate, what will they do? Robbing Peter to pay Paul, if you ask me. szkotja2007 Temporary my left one. It has been hundreds of years, and not one shot fired in anger.

PolskaDollThreads: 44 Posts: 4,134 Joined: Jun 15, 07	Jul 26, 09, 23:25 / #
The point is to encourage immigrants here who want to become citizens. What will happen when anyone wants a pension in the future? Pensions are private things nowadays, if you haven't got one you're foolish. Scotland's birth rate isn't tremendously high either, hence why we need to boost our population.

dtaylor5632Threads: 49 Posts: 4,459 Joined: May 2, 09	Jul 26, 09, 23:26 / #
RevokeNice: and not one shot fired in anger. Terrorism ain't one of our traits, we can sort our matters out by being smart;)

RevokeNiceThreads: 21 Posts: 2,765 Joined: Jun 20, 09	Edited by: RevokeNice Jul 26, 09, 23:28 / #
PolskaDoll: The point is to encourage immigrants here who want to become citizens. What will happen when anyone wants a pension in the future? Pensions are private things nowadays, if you haven't got one you're foolish. Why would you want to do that? Explain to me why it is good thing? PolskaDoll: Scotland's birth rate isn't tremendously high either, hence why we need to boost our population. Why and what benefits will it bring? dtaylor5632 Sure sure, not wanting to be a second class citizen in your own nation equates to terrorism. You can claim the moral high ground all you want, at the end of the day you are still a British subject.

PolskaDollThreads: 44 Posts: 4,134 Joined: Jun 15, 07	Jul 26, 09, 23:30 / #
RevokeNice: Why would you want to do that? Explain to me why it is good thing? Private pension? Because the state one won't buy you bread and milk by the time I get round to retiring. If you're referring to why we might want more immigrants - I refer you to a previous post, Scotland is way underpopulated... RevokeNice: Why and what benefits will it bring? Now I need to explain what benefits boosting the population will bring...no, I think you can search that one yourself, figure it out for yourself..

szkotja2007Threads: 38 Posts: 2,544 Joined: Dec 29, 06	Jul 26, 09, 23:32 / #
RevokeNice: Explain to me why it is good thing? Workers pay tax - tax pays for care for those that can't work. Use the search bar and look for "noimagination" - its all been said before.

RevokeNiceThreads: 21 Posts: 2,765 Joined: Jun 20, 09	Edited by: RevokeNice Jul 26, 09, 23:33 / #
PolskaDoll: Private pension? Because the state one won't buy you bread and milk by the time I get round to retiring. If you're referring to why we might want more immigrants - I refer you to a previous post, Scotland is way underpopulated... Which is quite a good thing. Spend a week in Dublin or London. Every hear the term "importing poverty". You will in the future, as that is what you are advocating. PolskaDoll: Now I need to explain what benefits boosting the population will bring...no, I think you can search that one yourself, figure it out for yourself.. I am not asking for a google search, I am asking you why you think Scotland needs to import more foreigners, especailly considering there are quite a number of Scots unemployed. dtaylor5632 The immigrants will need pensions too, ever hear of a state pension you gormless dress wearing goon? Who will pay for it? More immigrants. There was actually a House of Lords report recently which stated immigrants in the UK had a negative effect on the economy.

PolskaDollThreads: 44 Posts: 4,134 Joined: Jun 15, 07	Edited by: PolskaDoll Jul 26, 09, 23:38 / #
RevokeNice: Which is quite a good thing. That the state pension won't buy bread and milk? Are you kidding? That's a disaster! RevokeNice: there are quite a number of Scots unemployed. Something that should be pointed out here is this: However many people in Scotland are unemployed they are not all Scots so your statement should read "There are quite a number of people in Scotland who are unemployed". Not all Scots. Scotland needs foreigners because (yet again...) we are underpopulated...One more time for an encore? RevokeNice: ever hear of a state pension you gormless dress wearing goon? You aren't paying attention, the state pension is worthless, certainly will be when I retire. It's Private Pensions here now RN. I won't continue a debate with someone who only reads part of the posts and expects answers for things that have already been answered.

RevokeNiceThreads: 21 Posts: 2,765 Joined: Jun 20, 09	Edited by: RevokeNice Jul 26, 09, 23:41 / #
PolskaDoll Right, I still fail to see why Scotland needs to be importing foreigners. I meant to say that have a low population density is quite a good thing. Try Dublin or London for a while. You will be grateful to get back to bonnie wee Scotland.

szkotja2007Threads: 38 Posts: 2,544 Joined: Dec 29, 06	Jul 26, 09, 23:43 / #
RevokeNice: Right, I still fail to see why Scotland needs to be importing foreigners. I believe ya, honest. In order to do so I would need to clog up the thread with Clipart.