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Polish Visa to USA from US Consulate in Poland


bryan45777Threads: 2
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  Oct 3, 09, 17:46 /  #
How does this work? From Poles I've talked to, they have to have a sponsor in the USA with apparent money, usually a relative , so they don't disappear once they arrive in the US.This would seem to make it almost impossible for a Pole to get to the USA if they don't already have direct relatives there.Can they "marry their way" over? I just saw a show on Nat Geo where there is a dating service for Russian girls to meet American men so they can marry and get into the US.It would seem Poland could do the same thing..........

KrzysztofThreads: 2
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Edited by: Krzysztof   Oct 6, 09, 03:55 /  #
bryan45777:
dating service for Russian girls to meet American men so they can marry and get into the US.It would seem Poland could do the same thing

What about Polish men?

Well, the US authorities claim that's it's the high percentage of overstayers/illegal immigrants that prevent Poland from entering the visa waiver program, but this policy only supports the status quo. If you already have relatives or other contacts in US, it's more probable that you're going to stay and work there illegally (at least it seems logical to me, but I don't know the statistics, so maybe I'm wrong).

I guess they don't have many tourists from Poland, and I mean the average middle class, who can afford to visit US during holidays, because not many sane people would simply throw 100 dollars or more (non refundable) to apply for a visa and get rejected without no valid reasons, just accordingly to the consul's mood and "interpretations" of one's intents (because that's how it works: the consul has to assume what someone's intentions are, if this person is planning to stay illegally or come back to Poland). If at first you don't succeed, you can apply again, pay again, invest time again and get rejected again.
So it means that most people who apply for US visa many times must have some "hidden agenda", if they are deparate to go, maybe there's something (illegal work for example) waiting for them, but I also read for example about Polish parents not being able to go to the wedding of their son/daughter, because the American consul suspected they'd stay in the US. And it must be really sad for those people.

All this are only my guesses. Once, in the 1990's, I was thinking about going someday for a trip overseas, just out of curiosity, but when I heard how this thing with visas works, I decided not to bother. I can live without the US, they don't need me, so it's a mutual aggrement :)
krysiaThreads: 26
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  Oct 6, 09, 04:35 /  #
The most important factor to get a visa is not having a sponsor in the US for a tourist visa, but to prove to the consul that you will return back. You have to show that you have a job, a family, wife, kids that you will return to. You do not need a sponsor to get a tourist visa because you are not going to stay there, you are going as a tourist and a sponsor is irrelevant. Some people say it helps, but it is not always the case because you do not need to have relatives in the states. The Poles that overstay their visa ruin it for other Poles.
You can marry your way offer by having someone in the US fill out a fiance visa. But you have to show proof that you've met this person within 2 years of applying, such as photographs, tickets, etc. Then you have to be married within 90 days of arriving in the US and you will get a 2 year conditional green card.
shewolfThreads: 5
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  Oct 6, 09, 04:55 /  #
krysia:
You can marry your way offer by having someone in the US fill out a fiance visa. But you have to show proof that you've met this person within 2 years of applying, such as photographs, tickets, etc. Then you have to be married within 90 days of arriving in the US and you will get a 2 year conditional green card.

And you need to make sure the person you're going to marry in the U.S. has enough income to qualify as your sponsor. If not, you won't be allowed to get a green card through that person.
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Edited by: scrappleton   Oct 6, 09, 05:02 /  #
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bryan45777Threads: 2
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  Oct 11, 09, 23:09 /  #
I see.The "fiance" VISA is what I saw on TV.It still seems rather risky, as having a foreign new spouse with only a two year green card is not alot of security!
krysiaThreads: 26
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Edited by: krysia   Oct 11, 09, 23:57 /  #
There is a loop hole in this system though. Because technically you should be married for 2 years before you get the permanant card. But....if the marriage ends in divorce before the 2 year period is over, you can still get the permananet GC. You just have to prove to the INS that the marriage was in good faith or that you were abused. Which defeats the whole purpose of the fiance visa. Because if you are not married anymore for two years, the alien should not be able to get the permanent GC. Which he still can.
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