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daffyThreads: 40
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  Apr 14, 07, 09:46 /  #
Quoting: Grzegorz_
So ? It doesn't make my post incorrect.


it does if you are blaming them for what is happening to the prices. they are the minority and it is typical in all countries to blame foreigners for your own situation.

are you blaming them for the situation?

if yes, then it makes your post incorrect
if no, then it is an addition to your post

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  Apr 14, 07, 17:47 /  #
Quoting: ola123
We dont want foreigners in Poland buying out our homes, go home english GO HOME and leave us alone. And dont tell me I didnt want you, Poles dont want you here bloody capitalists.

So you want the Soviets back in control ?
The solution is simple don't sell Polish land to foreigners, and don't buy Zywiec and Tyskie as they are not owned by Polish companies. Capitalism is here Ola and it will never leave and if Polska is to compete Poles must open their minds to new ideas and to business. Its a sad truth about the modern world and remember we voted to join the E.U.
bookratt   Apr 16, 07, 12:16 /  #
Quoting: Grzegorz_
A guy, who buy a flat just to sell It for more in a year is not giving jobs to anyone.

I would say, yes, he is, if he uses Polish labor to fix it up or to farm it or work on it or to build the house on it.

Quoting Daffy: there are polish people doing this. in Wroclaw my friends fiance works in real estate and is doing this everyday. its not as many foreigners as you'd think.

To Daffy (I agree) and all others, I'd say this:

Here in the US you can buy a home in California for $100,000 today, add $30,000 in repairs and tomorrow or next week sell it for $500,000 (if you did the right work inside to fix it up). They call it "flipping". I used to be in real estate and this was common enough ten years ago, though it is much more popular now.

Even here in the East, far away from any major, growing, economically stable US city, you can buy for $150,000 today, do nothing at all to the property, live in it, then sell five years from now for $50-70,000 more than you paid.

Everyone does this here.

How is this a terrible thing? If you are smart and maintain the home well and hang onto your property for a bit, it will appreciate and you can sell to whoever you choose and then become rich from it. Then you buy a bigger, better property with the money you made from the first one.

This is a bad thing?

I guess I need to read up on this phenomenon over there as everyone seems so angry about it, but to me, this is life, everyday, in the US, and has been for as long as I can remember.

Can someone give me a link showing this foreign purchasing of Polish property so I can see what they mean?

Happy Monday (to those so inclined to receive such greetings)!
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  Apr 16, 07, 12:20 /  #
Quoting: bookratt
but to me, this is life, everyday


many poles dont quite understand making the most of opportunity yet... never mind...
ebinx   Apr 16, 07, 14:09 /  #
Nothing's free of charge. In a long perspective, Poles will only benefit as much as it will cost them.
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  Apr 16, 07, 15:12 /  #
Quoting: ebinx
Poles will only benefit as much as it will cost them.

Which Pole will it benefit?
14WORDS   Apr 24, 07, 02:03 /  #
I have to agree that this neo-liberal globalist garbage is an incorrect broken social model. Ola123 is correct in every aspect. The world needs a model that an accommodate everyone. global capitalism and loss of territorial integrity is not a solution. neither is mass migration. selling your country wholesale for cheap is not correct either. protectionism works if applied correctly. please see examples of USA in the 1800's and current Chinese models of tax protectionism..
Giles   Apr 24, 07, 11:16 /  #
Please expand, your arguements seem more coherent than those of Ola123, please expound your arguement as discussion is encourage. Also would you spell out what the 14 words stand for?
Great Leader   Apr 24, 07, 13:13 /  #
Quite simply Poland exists for Polish people. Sweden for Swedish people, Russia for Russians, Israel for Israeli people. The idea that foreigners can come in wholesale lots and purchase Polish land is criminal. This inevitably leads to UNDESIRABLE mass foreign population influx and other problems.

The best method in order to accommodate foreign investment is the creation of investment companies that are able to purchase in the 49% category of any European land to which they are not native. In this method they may receive 49.9% of all profits generated without the privilege of ownership. These companies can be traded on the open markets with their existing stock pool (49%) being on the open market. In this method, we have successful investment into E.U countries without selling the country literally, to foreign elements. Creative financing laws would allow you to even receive 90% of the profits and own 49% of the property.

The other solution would be to create specific "foreign investment zones" similar to Chinese "SEZ" (see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenzhen). In this method economic growth of any kind will be permitted as long as it is contained within the SEZ. In these areas, anyone would be able to visit and do whatever they please. This would even be environmentally friendly as energy requirement distribution is focused on one particular area. Proper development of public transportation and trams could reduce private vehicle usage thereby allowing the meeting of Kyoto protocol level agreements.

Indeed if not for the cause of the country, for the cause of the environment growth should be planned in proper methods. In this way we avoid foreigners purchasing the country, environment is preserved as specific development only occurs in approved areas subject to legal development with greenhouse gas emissions controlled due to the lack of urban sprawl.

Western syphilization with mass suburban housing divisions, cars for everyone, broken multi-culturalism with ethnic ghettos, spreads of HIV/AIDS brought in from 3rd world countries, excessive credit card debt, and finally the worst crime. Lowering of educational standards to meet "multi-cultural" needs, is not what European society needs to prosper.

Proof:
French- race riots of recent memory.
Sweden - where entire areas are ethnic ghettos subject to regular riots.
UK- 3rd world areas resembling the places these people come from with similar behaviors brought about by them.
USA- L.A. race riots, recent NYC race protesting.

Influx of mass foreign populations leads to tensions in society and the decay of that society. In order for a culture to exist it must have a standard upon which it functions. Introduction of even moderate quantities of foreign elements leads to dysfunction of such host culture. These people would take at least 2-3 generations to fully assimilate, and often do not simply because they view European society as alien to them.

Therefore this leads to creation of ethnic ghettos, which causes many social problems and decay of a country from within. Why should [any] but more specifically European country subject themselves to internal decay and slums brought about by mass immigration through availability of land or even apartments to foreigners? No Thank You.
miranda Edited by: miranda   Apr 24, 07, 13:14 /  #
another president of the world
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  Apr 24, 07, 13:38 /  #
Quoting: Great Leader
Western syphilization

Is that anything like Eastern Europe Gonnorhea?
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  Apr 24, 07, 13:41 /  #
Quoting: Great Leader
Poland exists for Polish people. Sweden for Swedish people, Russia for Russians, Israel for Israeli people

i didnt think in that!!!!! never ......you are very clever man
Chris777m Edited by: Moderator   Apr 25, 07, 13:59 /  #
If the Poles can come to Britain and have British jobs then it's fair that the Brits buy Polish land.
Chris777m   Apr 25, 07, 14:03 /  #
The Poles need to keep up with the times. Many of the people who are investing in Poland (I use the word investing appropriately) are of Polish origin and until now favourable to Poland.

Mind you, saying that, I have never met a bigger lot of rogues in my life. Poles who claim that they are qualified tradespeople and end up doing botched jobs and overcharging foreigners. Hostility from Poland will create resentment of Poles abroad. It acn't all be one way.
Chris777m   Apr 25, 07, 14:06 /  #
What a lot of nonsense from 'Great Leader who states 'Quite simply Poland exists for Polish people. Sweden for Swedish people, Russia for Russians, Israel for Israeli people. The idea that foreigners can come in wholesale lots and purchase Polish land is criminal. This inevitably leads to UNDESIRABLE mass foreign population influx and other problems.'

No wonder there is ethnic cleansing, wars and terrorism. Ever heard of integration, and tolerance.

God help mankind with views like that.
Giles   Apr 26, 07, 09:58 /  #
Truth is only mankind can help mankind.
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  Apr 26, 07, 10:02 /  #
I wish mankind could help me at work today !!
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  Apr 26, 07, 10:04 /  #
Quoting: Great Leader
Quite simply Poland exists for Polish people. Sweden for Swedish people, Russia for Russians,


True.
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  Apr 26, 07, 10:06 /  #
Quoting: Great Leader
Quite simply Poland exists for Polish people. Sweden for Swedish people, Russia for Russians, Israel for Israeli people


And Isle of Wight for Isle of Wight people !!!
Giles   Apr 26, 07, 10:21 /  #
And the Falklands for....

Australia for the aboriginees....

America for the Native Indians...

Um.....homeland for the Kurds....

Scotland for the Scots...

The arguement starts wearing a little thin.....
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  Apr 26, 07, 10:24 /  #
...and Midgetville for Midgets!! Stay out goons!!
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  Apr 26, 07, 10:27 /  #
Them poor midgets have been supressed for too long now...
Giles   Apr 26, 07, 10:34 /  #
yeah..they need to stand tall.....
cezarek   Apr 26, 07, 11:30 /  #
Far more Poles own houses in Britain than British people own houses in Poland.
cezarek   Apr 26, 07, 11:40 /  #
And some of us arrived in Poland with nothing, and have worked hard to buy our own homes - and no reason why we shouldn't!
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  Apr 26, 07, 11:43 /  #
Quoting: cezarek
And some of us arrived in Poland with nothing, and have worked hard to buy our own homes - and no reason why we shouldn't!

No, there isn't. I believe a lot of things in this topic are said out of spite anyway.
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  Apr 26, 07, 12:26 /  #
Quoting: FISZ
a lot of things in this topic are said out of spite anyway.


God, right zer, everyone goes over really, zuper!!! :P
Johanna   Apr 29, 07, 00:06 /  #
Quoting: ola123

We dont want foreigners in Poland buying out our homes, go home english GO HOME and leave us alone. And dont tell me I didnt want you, Poles dont want you here bloody capitalists.


Nobody cares what you are thinking ola, they only know that you are stupid and jealous of the prosperity of other cultures. If you expect for Polish to go abroad and buy land in other countries, you need to prepare your narrow mind for the event in which others buy polish land. You better also get down on your knees and kiss the feet of the foreigners who saved your family from Hitler. You forgot about him didnt you ungrateful ola?
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  Apr 29, 07, 00:21 /  #
Quoting: Great Leader
Poland exists for Polish people


Polska dla Polakow, Ziemia dla Ziemniakow
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Edited by: Moderator   May 1, 07, 08:04 /  #
Quoting: DaRightWord
except with the American idiots


We have poles, germans, chinese,mexicans, irish, koreans, africans, etc.. were the
melting pot of the world.

stop talking smack.............. Bozo

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