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TheKrukThreads: 5
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  May 11, 07, 05:04 /  #
Quoting: freebird
I agree as far as you're talking about your own experiences but not all of the language schools around here treat, so called, "natives" right. For example, I didn't get paid twice.

Where you at Freebird? Poland? if you don't mind me asking.
But yeah what the hell is up with that not paying people on time!? its happened three times to me this year no apology no explanation just "well thats how it works in Poland"
I work in Katowice for a large school with branches all over Poland.
Sorry this is off topic.

freebird   May 11, 07, 09:27 /  #
Quoting: TheKruk
TheKruk

We are in Masurian Lakes about to open up our own school . It's typical conversation school operated by Americans. We're are you located?
murpheus   May 11, 07, 12:16 /  #
Its strange to see Polish hostility against the English. Especially when there are so many Polish people living and working in England. And taking jobs from the English. I don`t complain about it and i think its good that Polish people get the chance to earn a good wage. Its a shame that there are stupid people who have prejudice and ignorance. If English people want to buy land in Poland so what. It seems lots of Polish people have left Poland so there is lots of properly to buy there. Live and let live.
EamonThreads: -
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  May 11, 07, 14:35 /  #
I agree I know why they come here, I speak Polish even though i am born and bred in the uk, my mother is Polish I have a lot of polish friends and have helped many poles get jobs ext and i like to think it is as fair for us to buy their land as they are to earn our money.
After the war the uk took many Poles and let them live in the Uk ,that is how my mother ended up here, we fought on the same side after all ,so why are you racist towards the brits, lets all help each other,insted of small minded and ignorant opinions.

The Brits will never be big in Poland as they mainly move to warm climates like Spain, SO DONT WORRY ! I personally love Poland and would move there if I had the opportunity of work there,

We are all human after all ,perhaps we can learn from each other !
szarlotkaThreads: 14
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Edited by: szarlotka   May 11, 07, 14:36 /  #
Quoting: Eamon
We are all human after all ,perhaps we can learn from each other


Hooray for the voice of common sense and reason
FrankThreads: 27
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  May 11, 07, 14:36 /  #
Quoting: Eamon
We are all human after all ,perhaps we can learn from each other !


The British learn from anyone...............eeeeeemmmmm....fraid not Eamon...........!

Well at least they wouldn't admit to....as most nations wouldn't...lol
EamonThreads: -
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  May 12, 07, 12:42 /  #
Quoting: Frank
The British learn from anyone...............eeeeeemmmmm....fraid not Eamon...........!

Well at least they wouldn't admit to....as most nations wouldn't...lol



You are right Frank, but am willing to start a new trend,
TheKrukThreads: 5
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  May 14, 07, 12:17 /  #
Quoting: freebird
We're are you located?

Katowice.Masurian Lakes I hear thats pretty country, got a lotta students?
peterwegThreads: 30
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  May 21, 07, 05:51 /  #
Quoting: ndsncd
then take back all your 1 million beggars that think they have a right to destroy our economy, we saved you from Nazi's we will take your land!



Ok, so well me how Britain saved Poland form the Nazi? The 400k Polish fighting in the British army were rewarded with exile in Britain after being promised Polands freedom. Russia 'liberated' Poland but the communists were worse than the Nazi's. Britain did nothing to liberate Poland, The Americans gave Poland to Stalin.

Beggars? I haven't seen any Polish beggars - has one stolen you favourite pitch?
The Poles are doing our economy good.
Shawn_H   May 21, 07, 06:26 /  #
Quoting: ndsncd
then take back all your 1 million beggars that think they have a right to destroy our economy, we saved you from Nazi's we will take your land!

Quoting: peterweg
Ok, so well me how Britain saved Poland form the Nazi? The 400k Polish fighting in the British army were rewarded with exile in Britain after being promised Polands freedom. Russia 'liberated' Poland but the communists were worse than the Nazi's. Britain did nothing to liberate Poland, The Americans gave Poland to Stalin.

Beggars? I haven't seen any Polish beggars - has one stolen you favourite pitch?
The Poles are doing our economy good.

davidpeakeThreads: 18
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  May 21, 07, 07:05 /  #
Quoting: ndsncd
then take back all your 1 million beggars that think they have a right to destroy our economy, we saved you from Nazi's we will take your land!


is that the british you say that saved Poland from the Nazi's?
PaulusThreads: 4
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  May 21, 07, 07:30 /  #
Ola,

Instead of blaming foreigners getting into Poland and buying, blame your government who apperently finds it normal and even stimulating for highly educated polish people to leave their home land and do the (mostly) lowest paid jobs in Western Europe (cleaning, working on farm land). Besides the fact that some people in your (local) gouvernment(s) probably make a lot of money because of those Foreigners coming in........
Don't blame foreigners, blame Polish voters who have voted for this investment climate....
And oh yeah, brace yourself once the Euro comes in. Then everybody will be in dire straits and you will have legitimate reason to hate Belgians (Brussels)......
feebird   May 21, 07, 12:42 /  #
Quoting: TheKruk
Katowice.Masurian Lakes I hear thats pretty country, got a lotta students?

We just started advertisng. We got about 80 right now. Stay in touch if you're interested. I'll give you a buzz.
lefThreads: 13
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  May 22, 07, 03:56 /  #
Quoting: Paulus
And oh yeah, brace yourself once the Euro comes in. Then everybody will be in dire straits and you will have legitimate reason to hate Belgians (Brussels)......



Thanks for the warnings, (one of the benefits of this forum is getting good information)
Thank You, I think Polish people are too smart to be allowed to be dictated by the people on the high side of town. The current situation in Poland is such that young couples on average income will never be able to afford owning there own house, this is not on, Poles will not allow there country to be brought by British and Irish speculators, who at the end of the day make their money at the hands of the Polish battler.
Its about time the Polish government imposed such high taxes on non polish people who deal in the property market that they would have no choice but to pack their bags and go home..
davidpeakeThreads: 18
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  May 22, 07, 04:01 /  #
Lef,

i agree with what you are saying, but aren't alot of the Polish farmers making very good money from selling their land. You don't even have to have a road, or all general services to it, to be able to sell it, my wife and I looked at alot of blocks we thought where over priced, and came with no services, some of them you would need a 4wd to get to in winter.
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  May 22, 07, 04:23 /  #
Quoting: davidpeake
but aren't alot of the Polish farmers making very good money from selling their land.


That may be so, but then they are unable to buy anything better than what they have sold.
Zengirl   May 25, 07, 01:57 /  #
Would part of the problem the EU and its policies regarding the free movement of goods, services and people? The EU and its institutions have some fairly strict guidelines and regulations in relation to domestic laws that are perceived to be 'discriminatory'.

So, unless there is legislation to protect Polish people (i.e. laws limiting foreign ownership) and this legislation withstands the 'discrimination' test set by the EU and its Treaties, I imagine that for the average Polish farmer who is unable to afford to purchase land in his or her own country - there are probably not many options available to them.
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  May 25, 07, 02:55 /  #
Quoting: Zengirl
there are probably not many options available to them.


True. But farmland is for farming, so don't expect to build a housing estate on the land.
davidpeakeThreads: 18
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  May 25, 07, 02:59 /  #
Quoting: Wroclaw
True. But farmland is for farming, so don't expect to build a housing estate on the land.


Wroclaw, as you know, just go for a drive outseide Wroclaw, most of it 10 years ago would have been farming land, now its housing estates. not all but the small towns closer to the big ones.
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  May 25, 07, 03:31 /  #
David,

I have to agree that there is a lot of building going on in the nearby countryside. For me, it seems that small villages are getting bigger rather than building companies starting anew on a fresh plot of land.
I just wonder what foreign investors have in store for us. I also wonder If they understand the culture and tradition of countryside living. A beautiful English country scene won't work in Poland. It also worries me that people with money might try and buy up small villages, which will displace the local population. I see problems ahead for both sides and it will take good legislation to keep everyone happy.
davidpeakeThreads: 18
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  May 25, 07, 03:41 /  #
agreed, don't want any poms living next to me :) lol
karlThreads: -
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  May 25, 07, 06:00 /  #
well, we are coming david :)
davidpeakeThreads: 18
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  May 25, 07, 06:11 /  #
lucky i bought the blocks either side of me then :)
karlThreads: -
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  May 25, 07, 06:31 /  #
thats ok, maybe i rent from you :)
away guyThreads: 12
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  May 25, 07, 06:32 /  #
Quoting: ola123
We dont want foreigners in Poland buying out our homes


Ill buy as much ;and as i wish as long as it makes me rich !
BubbaWooThreads: 46
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  May 25, 07, 08:23 /  #
i remember when i sold a car there was a guy who i didnt want to buy it, even tho he offered me the asking price... so i didnt sell it to him... simple, huh?

if poles dont want foreigners buying their land then stop selling it to us... and stop overinflating the price so that the only people who can afford it are overseas investors... simple, huh?

its a ripple effect... the more you charge for the land, the more the investor is going to charge for whatever is built on it... simple, huh?

polish property owners are pricing their fellow countrymen out of the market... stupid, huh?
lefThreads: 13
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  May 26, 07, 00:33 /  #
Quoting: BubbaWoo
polish property owners are pricing their fellow countrymen out of the market... stupid, huh?


Thats a good and honest answer BubbaWoo, however the polish property owners may have the last laugh when property prices crash, which they will. The three towns which maintain current high prices Krakow, Warsaw, Gdansk (and surrounds) will still have to battle for continued demand for water, gas,and electricity. It will be unable to serviced due to over-development. The current process used for disposal of human waste and grey water is old and need of major overhaul.

The smart investor has already moved on and now accessing over property markets in eastern Europe. I might add properties in the Czech republic are much nicer and a fraction of the cost of those investment properties in Poland.

Some people are slow learners.
EamonThreads: -
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  May 29, 07, 13:44 /  #
The Brits are used to house prices crashing, some win some lose, live and let live I say
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  Jun 6, 07, 19:35 /  #
The whole point of the Eropean Union is that members can live, work and holiday anywhere within the Union freeley. I could buy a house in Poland, work in Italy and holiday in Spain. In 50 years time the populations will be mixed. I can fly to krakow quicker than it takes me to get out of London in peak rush hour.
wildroverThreads: 180
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  Jun 7, 07, 19:10 /  #
Poland is now in the european union...that means that Polish people have every right to go to the uk and take English jobs from English people...I welcomed eight Polish people into my home so that they could have jobs in England..I didnt have a problem with that...On the other hand i moved to Poland and bought a run down farm here,, and intend to make my life here...I have to say i have not experianced any hostility from any Polish people,,in fact the opposite,, they have helped me so much ....Economic migration is a fact of life...get used to it..and take advantage of it...be proud to be Polish..and when you have made your money in the UK ..come back to Poland and invest your money here....I am English by the way.....Jan

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