House Planning Permission in Poland !!!

Avalon:

I would recommend trying to obtain your work from Ireland and doing it online. It should be possible for your clients to send you site plans, drainage layouts and photo's which would enable you to prepare plans for submission to the local authourities.

galwaymanThreads: 2 Posts: 15 Joined: Aug 3, 09	Aug 3, 09, 21:13 / #
Hi , I am moving to Poland with my Polish girlfriend next month . I have worked in Ireland as a CAD technician , Structural Tech. . Now im wondering if it would be possible to do some planning permissions for one off houses and Extensions in Poland or ?. Do i have to register to a council ? Do i need to be a chartered Engineer ?

WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 [Moderator]	Aug 3, 09, 21:18 / #
galwayman: Now im wondering if it would be possible to do some planning permissions Sorry, I don't understand this. Do you mean design ?

ragtime27Threads: 1 Posts: 245 Joined: Feb 20, 09	Aug 3, 09, 21:21 / #
I would assume you need to be registered with the council. I believe,he meant if he's allowed to practice the same function as in Ireland or does he need an approval or permission,correct me if I'm wrong.

inkrakow	Aug 3, 09, 21:23 / #
Planning permission drawings have to be signed by an architect licensed to practice in Poland.

WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 [Moderator]	Aug 3, 09, 21:28 / #
thanx inKrakow, now I understand, and agree

galwaymanThreads: 2 Posts: 15 Joined: Aug 3, 09	Aug 3, 09, 21:28 / #
lodge planning applications

tj123Threads: - Posts: 104 Joined: Jul 31, 09	Aug 3, 09, 21:29 / #
galwayman: I am moving to Poland with my Polish girlfriend next month . I have worked in Ireland as a CAD technician , Structural Tech. . Now im wondering if it would be possible to do some planning permissions for one off houses and Extensions in Poland or ? You will have to be certified in substandard design and construction. There is a special requirement for electrical outlets. They must not in any circumstance be firmly affixed to the wall.

WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 [Moderator]	Aug 3, 09, 21:30 / #
galwayman: lodge planning applications the architect does it for you

WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 [Moderator]	Aug 3, 09, 21:33 / #
tj123: They must not in any circumstance be firmly affixed to the wall. Also, make sure that any new brickwork is not tied in :)

FredChopinThreads: - Posts: 138 Joined: Jul 26, 09	Aug 3, 09, 21:35 / #
Wroclaw: Also, make sure that any new brickwork is not tied in :) Where is that report button. Wroclaw is not keeping on topic! :-)

galwaymanThreads: 2 Posts: 15 Joined: Aug 3, 09	Aug 3, 09, 21:38 / #
Thanks !! I taught if all drawing were in Compliance with Building and Planning Regs . and Euro Codes there should be no problem . Can an Architectural Tech . get licensed ? in Poland .

BzibziohThreads: 6 Posts: 3,657 Joined: Oct 15, 08 [Suspended]	Aug 3, 09, 21:47 / #
galwayman: I taught if all drawing were in Compliance with Building and Planning Regs . and Euro Codes there should be no problem. I can't imagine one Euro Building Code. Make sure Poland does not require Polish one. Here in Canada each province has his own Building code.

inkrakow	Aug 3, 09, 22:03 / #
galwayman: I taught if all drawing were in Compliance with Building and Planning Regs . and Euro Codes there should be no problem . That's right. But Poland has its own building and planning regs and you need to understand the system to know how to design within it. galwayman: Can an Architectural Tech . get licensed ? in Poland . Of course, but you'll have to do it in Polish!

AvalonThreads: 3 Posts: 812 Joined: Sep 11, 07	Aug 3, 09, 22:28 / #
galwayman: I taught if all drawing were in Compliance with Building and Planning Regs . and Euro Codes there should be no problem If you cannot even spell "thought", I think you will have a lot of problems with the Polish language. I have been a builder for 37 years and even I do not understand the reasoning behind some of the Polish planning regulations, for example, you cannot fit a "balanced flue" gas boiler because, you have to have chimneys, even though these boilers are CE approved. I have now had to spend a great deal of money on chimneys for my latest project, which to my mind are totally useless as there are no fireplaces, only gas central heating. I expect that these regulations have been in effect for the last 40 years and nobody has bothered to update themselves with the new technology for venting systems. Saying that, it does provide jobs for two men to climb on the roof every year to inspect the chimneys and make sure that they are not blocked with soot. I would recommend trying to obtain your work from Ireland and doing it online. It should be possible for your clients to send you site plans, drainage layouts and photo's which would enable you to prepare plans for submission to the local authourities. I wish you the best of luck with your endevours.

WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 [Moderator]	Aug 3, 09, 21:43 / #
galwayman: Can an Architectural Tech. get licensed ? in Poland. I don't know the answer to this. You might have to wait for someone more knowledgeable to answer.

BzibziohThreads: 6 Posts: 3,657 Joined: Oct 15, 08 [Suspended]	Aug 3, 09, 22:35 / #
Avalon: I would recommend trying to obtain your work from Ireland and doing it online. It should be possible for your clients to send you site plans, drainage layouts and photo's which would enable you to prepare plans for submission to the local authourities. You must be kidding. Yea, let some unknown guy who may or may have not idea what he is doing design me a renovation of my house. Good one!

tj123Threads: - Posts: 104 Joined: Jul 31, 09	Edited by: tj123 Aug 3, 09, 22:38 / #
Bzibzioh: You must be kidding. Yea, let some unknown guy who may or may have not idea what he is doing design me a renovation of my house. Good one! It would be at least as good as anything he could get here. Poland is not known for quality of design, materials and construction. The overwhelming majority of structures here are total crap.

WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 [Moderator]	Aug 3, 09, 22:44 / #
tj123: It would be at least as good as anything he could get here. Poland is not known for quality of design, materials and construction. Things are getting better here. But after seeing some botched jobs they have a long way to go. Brickwork in Poland is about the worst I've ever seen.

galwaymanThreads: 2 Posts: 15 Joined: Aug 3, 09	Aug 3, 09, 22:49 / #
I thank you for your reply ! As regrads my spelling ! " spelling never got it built " and i was always told the guy in the hole knows more . Practise and theory are two different things . Anyhow - i do some foundation and housing designs in Via the net "emails" in Ireland. All i know for now is that Poland is in for a wake up in regard to EU Regs. I have friends working within UK firms in Poland and they tell me its only time . somehow in not convinced

WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 [Moderator]	Aug 3, 09, 22:56 / #
galwayman: All i know for now is that Poland is in for a wake up in regard to EU Regs. Larger construction companies will be able to implement them, and will have to. Smaller companies will do it the way they always have.

BzibziohThreads: 6 Posts: 3,657 Joined: Oct 15, 08 [Suspended]	Aug 3, 09, 22:59 / #
tj123: It would be at least as good as anything he could get here. No, it would not. 95% of design is about technical requirements and 5% about artsy stuff. So you need to know local building codes well. galwayman: somehow in not convinced Huh? I really am not trying to be mean but if your AutoCad abilities and attention to detail are as good as your spelling ... well ...

galwaymanThreads: 2 Posts: 15 Joined: Aug 3, 09	Aug 3, 09, 23:25 / #
Ive done more planning applications than i care to remember ! And have be granted , as i only asked in my thread ,was in regard to housing applications and extensions . so your getting away from the point - my draughting skills are not an issue . My portfolio speaks for itself.

tj123Threads: - Posts: 104 Joined: Jul 31, 09	Edited by: tj123 Aug 3, 09, 23:31 / #
Bzibzioh: No, it would not. 95% of design is about technical requirements and 5% about artsy stuff. So you need to know local building codes well. Codes mean nothing when the standard is so low. You sound like Harry citing immigration law when the reality is different. Quality is substandard in Polish design and construction...this is tangible in the structures. Even "expensive" flats are crap in quality. It's a cultural standard that is accepted and not corrected...there is no pride in doing it correctly.

WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 [Moderator]	Aug 3, 09, 23:40 / #
tj123: there is no pride in doing it correctly. There is no correct training.

tj123Threads: - Posts: 104 Joined: Jul 31, 09	Edited by: tj123 Aug 3, 09, 23:43 / #
Wroclaw: There is no correct training. I will accept that as a fact...but not the main reason. People KNOW when they are cutting corners or cheating. It is not something a lot of Poles are ashamed of doing. Rather than taking the time to do it correctly they smash it together or paint over it. They don't seem to be embarrassed when their work doesn't hold up. Customers don't do much about it either...just yell a bit then go back to their dinner. It is kind of like comparing German quality to Chinese. Everyone knows the cultural standard of quality is much higher with German goods...the Chinese make crap and are not ashamed. I find Poles quite similar (in general...meaning it is a cultural issue)....they have no pride in quality. They get paid the same either way so they'd rather finish up and get home than build well.

galwaymanThreads: 2 Posts: 15 Joined: Aug 3, 09	Aug 3, 09, 23:59 / #
Well !! Maybe my Cad Skills ! may not be up to standard of some posters !!! But as i have studied planning Law within Ireland , UK and USA . Many cases would be of non compilance ! which would be a result of contractors cutting corners . And normally it would be the up and coming new developer , now as Poland has a high infastructure i fear for alot of clients of cowboys .

WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 [Moderator]	Aug 4, 09, 00:12 / #
galwayman: Maybe my Cad Skills ! may not be up to standard of some posters !!! I'm sure that they are just fine. galwayman: Many cases would be of non compilance ! which would be a result of contractors Contractors here can't work without spray foam, if there is a gap then fill it with foam. You'll find this all out when you get your house renovated.

tj123Threads: - Posts: 104 Joined: Jul 31, 09	Aug 4, 09, 00:15 / #
Wroclaw: Contractors here can't work without spray foam, if there is a gap then fill it with foam. Haha...oh god my side hurts from laughing...this is so true. It bulges out of every crack you can see. Worse yet they don't even trim it off...they just paint over it..paint it used to camoflage all sorts of shoddy work.