Personal issues with two women, they want to be my friend but don't act that way

natasia:

They have learnt, either by observation, or the hard way, that a guy who considers himself v lucky to be with a girl treats her better, much better, than a young buck who thinks he's doing her a favour. I'm sure there's something personal about it, too - you must be a nice guy, and attractive. What you have found a pleasant surprise, i guess, is that your age is in their eyes an advantage.

AlbanaichThreads: 4 Posts: 45 Joined: Nov 6, 09	Nov 11, 09, 12:12 / #
Take up ballroom dancing. . . . .that's where I meet up with my girls :-) At least 2 girls for every guy, at least 4 girls for every young guy. If only I had discovered 30 years ago (but may be not, my dick would have dropped off by now)

nincompoop_notThreads: 4 Posts: 229 Joined: Nov 3, 09	Nov 11, 09, 13:17 / #
Albanaich: That's why posted, it just seemed so ludicrous two young doctors might be attrracted to someone in thier 50's. you must have one hell of a brain mister That's why I thought it might a cultural issue. or maybe not...? I've now got a Polish girlfriend 20 years younger than me :-) and she's the nicer one personality wise. definitely not

natasiaThreads: 3 Posts: 245 Joined: Jun 21, 08	Edited by: natasia Nov 11, 09, 14:43 / #
Albanaich: That's why I thought it might a cultural issue. it is. they want a rich older boyfriend who will do all sorts of useful things for them, and make them feel looked after, and buy them presents. they don't want to waste themselves on sexy younger guys who will just use and abuse them, treat them mean (not to keep them keen - just because they can't be bothered to treat them nicely), and be unfaithful to them, regardless of how beautiful or lovely or devoted the girls are. They have learnt, either by observation, or the hard way, that a guy who considers himself v lucky to be with a girl treats her better, much better, than a young buck who thinks he's doing her a favour. I'm sure there's something personal about it, too - you must be a nice guy, and attractive. What you have found a pleasant surprise, i guess, is that your age is in their eyes an advantage. enjoy : )

SzwedwPolsceThreads: 13 Posts: 1,915 Joined: Feb 21, 09	Nov 11, 09, 14:55 / #
natasia: They have learnt, either by observation, or the hard way, that a guy who considers himself v lucky to be with a girl treats her better, much better, than a young buck who thinks he's doing her a favour. I'm sure there's something personal about it, too - you must be a nice guy, and attractive. What you have found a pleasant surprise, i guess, is that your age is in their eyes an advantage. Interesting thoughts.

PlasticPoleThreads: 10 Posts: 5,429 Joined: May 28, 09	Nov 11, 09, 16:13 / #
Albanaich: They both say that want to be friends, and friends only and that's ok with me - but they don't act like friends, Actually, since you said there's no hint of anything sexual, it does sound like that's all these two want, a friend to go out and do things with. They sound like nice friends, btw. Sometimes men hate that women only want to be friends. Sometimes that's all we want, a friendship.

AlbanaichThreads: 4 Posts: 45 Joined: Nov 6, 09	Nov 11, 09, 18:22 / #
Ive been around a while and managed friendships (including long term dance partnerships) with women quite succesfully - but then again, the women didn't phone me up at work to say they were lonely and they were missing me. That's way beyond friendship. . . . .there are rules. . . .

Barr_2009Threads: 1 Posts: 280 Joined: Oct 11, 09	Nov 11, 09, 20:22 / #
hmm, I'm trying to be friends with a Polish girl and it's tough, she keeps making harsh comments since she rejected me, as I considered more with her. Generally laughing at me, while saying I'm a good friend. Really hate to say there are similarities with these Polish girls, but of course just coincidence, right? Never had any real problems like this with English girls, and a German girl I went out with. All were great and caring, and able to communicate. This girl ignores me when she feels like and just generally makes me feel confused. She's admitted she's a Polish princess, and picky. Ha, I can only laugh or cringe....

sadieannThreads: 4 Posts: 320 Joined: Apr 28, 09	Nov 11, 09, 21:20 / #
Albanaich: first woman This relationship is interested in taking it to the next step. Albanaich: this time she pushed her telephone number under my hotel room door That was a cue that night to pursue it... If your both interested and still contacting each other; move forward. Albanaich: another girl, in a fairly unpleasant situation Albanaich: I did the father daughter thing, got her sorted out This is just that. Decide if you want that drama and maintenance?

optsThreads: 12 Posts: 333 Joined: Jul 29, 06	Edited by: opts Nov 11, 09, 21:32 / #
Alba Just because you went out with the two women, it does not mean that you are entitled to sleep with them. Women are the same everywhere . These two women happen to be Polish. To them, you are just a nice chump, or is it a chap, as the British would say. Ta ta :) nauczyciel Your superior intellect shines. Putting women into a mathematical equation. In polish we have a name for brilliant individuals as you, grecki filozof. Holy Cow! I just pissed off the Greeks.

Gunslinger44Threads: - Posts: 49 Joined: Oct 29, 09	Edited by: Gunslinger44 Nov 11, 09, 22:28 / #
Albanaich, Wow. Like RevokeNice said, shall we draw you a map? Listen, girls don't randomly call guys up and say things like "I miss you" unless they WANT TO BE PHYSICALLY INTIMATE! I cannot believe you are 55 years old and you need us to explain this to you. (I am not insulting you, I am just incredulous) From all you've told, you're obviously doing everything "right" with the girls, and whether or not you were TRYING to attract them sexually is regardless of the fact that you HAVE done so! They want you to be their "always and forever". If you cannot deliver, then resist any urges you might have, because everyone will end up badly hurt. But if you think you might want to date them then DO IT and quit asking about it on an online forum where you're more likely to get responses from guys who don't know sh*t about women, besides what their mommy told them. People don't realize,...just how desperate the world of women is for real men.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Nov 12, 09, 00:08 / #
Well, there is a half-truth there. Enduring some of the whims and wants takes a bit of doing ;)

nomaderolThreads: 7 Posts: 1,213 Joined: Oct 18, 09	Nov 12, 09, 00:32 / #
Albanaich: That's way beyond friendship. . . . .there are rules. . . . what rules? rules are of rulers who are not easily reachable by phones at works. since last year, i destroyed all rules, called her at work zillions of times. tried to reach the monster, but, he was hiding himself behind the female dogs and male gorillas? i dont know what i have been trying to do... ? anyway. i can say this to you. 20-30 years age difference is nothing. they will say this "love is ageless thing", they may say this even though they dont believe this, but, it is true, "love is really ageless thing." if this wasnt true, there would be no single marriage in the world. no rule has been put on age difference. no rule has been put how long any person will live. live good. (if you still complain about their timeless calls, you send them smses frequently that will make them unsure about your wealth or health.)

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,955 Joined: May 17, 07	Nov 12, 09, 11:08 / #
Put yourself a chastity device so they will not be able to seduce you.

specialKThreads: 1 Posts: 2 Joined: Nov 13, 09	Nov 14, 09, 16:52 / #
Honestly, whoever thinks that there can ever be a true "friendship" between a straight man and a straight woman is smoking some crazy crazy stuff.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Nov 11, 09, 22:34 / #
And you are a guy who writes on a forum, LOL ;) ;) Not too bright, are you son? :) It's not as black&white as you make it, simpleton.

RevokeNiceThreads: 21 Posts: 2,766 Joined: Jun 20, 09	Nov 11, 09, 23:18 / #
Gunslinger44: Like RevokeNice said, shall we draw you a map? He shot, he scored. Hes probably able to draw a map himself at this stage. ;) I should charge for me advice.

nomaderolThreads: 7 Posts: 1,213 Joined: Oct 18, 09	Nov 11, 09, 23:52 / #
Gunslinger44: People don't realize,...just how desperate the world of women is for real men. you said very true...

nomaderolThreads: 7 Posts: 1,213 Joined: Oct 18, 09	Nov 14, 09, 20:30 / #
specialK: Honestly, whoever thinks that there can ever be a true "friendship" between a straight man and a straight woman is smoking some crazy crazy stuff. who cares if friendship or fiendship. does matter?

Barr_2009Threads: 1 Posts: 280 Joined: Oct 11, 09	Nov 14, 09, 20:32 / #
specialK specialK: specialK Today, 16:52 #48 Honestly, whoever thinks that there can ever be a true "friendship" between a straight man and a straight woman is smoking some crazy crazy stuff. well that's what i'm about to try. She rejected me, but I'm going to attempt to be friends, if i manage it, wouldn't she be able to? Only girls I could really be friends with in the past was those that i wasn't attracted to, this will be different

nomaderolThreads: 7 Posts: 1,213 Joined: Oct 18, 09	Nov 14, 09, 20:46 / #
Barr_2009 what will you do after rejection? once you fall in rejection collection - you'll be an antique. no discouraging. just trying to learn. if silence means rejection, it is hard to reapproach for me.