Any polish women who are married to muslim people?

Quoting: bunia

I havent been married to an asian man but was in relationship with one.
Once you are actually open to understanding their culture and your love is strong it has a chance
but...
yes there is a but
it is complitely diffrent world and complitely diffrent culture than polish.
Yes there are similiar when it comes to familly values but in slightly diffrent way. Polish women do care about familly and man's happiness but we can not lead life according to rules of man's father, brother, mother and any other member of familly (his familly).
Usually polish woman when shes in love would do almost anything for her man - even change her religion. I dont want to talk about all polish women, because every one is diffrent in the en of day but from my own experience - i wouldnt change religion myself but i would let kids be brought up as muslim - reason for that was: i loved a guy who is muslim and i would love my kids exacly the same way no matter what religion they owuld be.
To make that marriage work girl would have to sacrifice ALOT!
But girls have to understand that it is a diffrent culture and first you have to actually see it for yourself and spend some time with muslim family to decide if you can do it. Im not saying their way of treating women is wrong - its just diffrent level than polish girls are used to.
In the end, even tho i was prepared to do everything for the guy and our love his familly was stronger. He went to visit them and came back engaged because they wanted him to...
Happens...

adilskiThreads: 6 Posts: 136 Joined: May 19, 07	May 26, 07, 14:57 / #
hi, i just want to know what peoples experiences are; how di you cope with the religion, the family, your partner, children etc etc. i would appreciate any comments at all good or bad, its not about putting any one down but learning from other people djenki

ZgubionyThreads: 21 Posts: 2,037 Joined: Oct 20, 06	May 26, 07, 15:08 / #
I've heard a horror story from a woman that married a man from Iran. I can't give you the details, but once they were married and in Iran, she was a prisoner and wasn't able to do anything on here own. She was told that she can't leave the country.

KarimaThreads: 3 Posts: 65 Joined: Apr 5, 07	Edited by: Karima May 26, 07, 15:13 / #
many polish womans isnt aware abaut tradiction.religion, culture their future husband . They took marriage andlate they start have problem and is not any faul theses mans any womans ( ormaybe little woman ;) ) coz in mans mind they treat womans good and isoften true but polish woman liveing in europ arent ready to understand their world and change.Of cours not always is that now when i come topolandi see is more interesting abaut generaly arabic culture than yet 10years ago.Womans more often are interesting and care more to know better life their Second half. -and thats good. I know many mariage mix (between them my parents) if people are ready to goon compromiss everything is possiblity ,If abaut religion polish womans issnt so strong in belive like u can think they can quickly let husband convience baby to be muslim ( i dont say is always like that and idont want nobody ofended).Of cours everything what i wrote touch 2people who are really love just they are from other culture not marriage 70% which are abaut european pasport or quickly not tough dezicion coz they are fascinating of other exotic culture our husband ... ( small often wife)

adilskiThreads: 6 Posts: 136 Joined: May 19, 07	May 26, 07, 16:56 / #
Quoting: Karima I know many mariage mix (between them my parents) if people are ready to goon compromiss everything is possiblity you r sooo rite... one important point there is a huge cultural difference, although values are similar e.g marriage family life, etc the idea in islam are strict and when people understand them they can share the similarities... in terms of what happens to women in countries like iran that is a sad story... before women from anyhwhere get in a relationship with someone who has strict guidleines and expects al ot from them they should rememebr it iwll be difficult.. also the woman will have to give up more than the man... good luck to those couples who make it work

adilskiThreads: 6 Posts: 136 Joined: May 19, 07	May 26, 07, 18:08 / #
mix marriages...?

buniaThreads: 1 Posts: 159 Joined: May 27, 07	May 27, 07, 07:59 / #
I havent been married to an asian man but was in relationship with one. Once you are actually open to understanding their culture and your love is strong it has a chance but... yes there is a but it is complitely diffrent world and complitely diffrent culture than polish. Yes there are similiar when it comes to familly values but in slightly diffrent way. Polish women do care about familly and man's happiness but we can not lead life according to rules of man's father, brother, mother and any other member of familly (his familly). Usually polish woman when shes in love would do almost anything for her man - even change her religion. I dont want to talk about all polish women, because every one is diffrent in the en of day but from my own experience - i wouldnt change religion myself but i would let kids be brought up as muslim - reason for that was: i loved a guy who is muslim and i would love my kids exacly the same way no matter what religion they owuld be. To make that marriage work girl would have to sacrifice ALOT! But girls have to understand that it is a diffrent culture and first you have to actually see it for yourself and spend some time with muslim family to decide if you can do it. Im not saying their way of treating women is wrong - its just diffrent level than polish girls are used to. In the end, even tho i was prepared to do everything for the guy and our love his familly was stronger. He went to visit them and came back engaged because they wanted him to... Happens...

adilskiThreads: 6 Posts: 136 Joined: May 19, 07	May 27, 07, 08:07 / #
Quoting: bunia In the end, even tho i was prepared to do everything for the guy and our love his familly was stronger. He went to visit them and came back engaged because they wanted him to... Happens... i have to say that the gentleman made a chocie to be with you but could not proceed, he knew his culture better than you.. i think people who are in relationships that they know are different to theirs and their families do not agree should be truthful to the girls from the beginning or sacrifice family if they can... but can they..? you have made an excellent summary of the conduct of this type of relationship... men oriented and women have to follow in the footsteps.... in islam there is no forcing of religion.. it should be from the heart... i also know a friend of mine (polish girl) who is with a muslim guy.. it is sad that shes 'has' to do everything his way... that is not equality... i think people should think of the long term not the short time funnnnn...

buniaThreads: 1 Posts: 159 Joined: May 27, 07	May 27, 07, 08:22 / #
Quoting: adilski it is sad that she 'has' to do everything his way... that is not equality... There is no such thing as equal woman and man in islam. So many people are shocked how muslim women can cope with that - answer is simple - they were brought up that was. Maybe not the best example but its a bit like eating chips with vinegar - polish people cant stand it and think its aweful while english think its absolutely normal - they were brought up that way. Quoting: adilski i think people should think of the long term not the short time funnnnn... So true... I know muslim guys can be absolutely amazing and make you feel like a princess but its changes with time...

adilskiThreads: 6 Posts: 136 Joined: May 19, 07	May 27, 07, 08:29 / #
Quoting: bunia make you feel like a princess in the basement chained to the kitchen.. joke.. actually its the differences in society and aims of life.. if you understand the core values of islam then everyhting else fits in nicely.. so i have been advised

buniaThreads: 1 Posts: 159 Joined: May 27, 07	May 27, 07, 08:35 / #
Quoting: adilski if you understand the core values of islam then everyhting else fits in nicely Yup , true

JagnaThreads: - Posts: 30 Joined: Apr 4, 07	May 27, 07, 11:55 / #
One of my highschool friends married an Egyptian guy, they live in Poland, have a son. He runs a restaurant she doesn't work. They are happy and ... lead a normal life! She doesn't work because she's never worked, she's not a type of a housewife though! She never cooks, he does, she likes to look good and sexy, he doesn't stop her. At the beginning they couldn't communicate much but he's learnt polish ( actually her mother taught him, she's a teacher).... They lived with her parents, he worked hard for what they have now.What can I add? Religion was never a problem because or although she's an atheist while he doesn't insist on anything, they paid a visit to his country and returned :)

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FISZThreads: 31 Posts: 2,607 Joined: Jun 14, 06	May 29, 07, 16:18 / #
adilski or whoever you are. You're way too many people to be taken seriously here now. Maybe you're trying to spread islam on everyone ;)

Maxxx_Payne_g	May 30, 07, 01:47 / #
Quoting: adelup This is out of context you see we believe Islam is the true religion wifes usually are more influence by the husbands way of life or religion if u want, so they can loose their religion(Islam). but if he convert is no problem he can marry her. fair enough? Fair ?!?!? Yeah right !

pan marek	May 27, 07, 15:46 / #
i think some people feel strongly about their faith then others, that is the key point... polish women have a religion but generally in the west religion is not as important as other theories like capitalism.. the idea that we live once only and everyhting is for this life is an important difference between my muslim friends and myself and my family (catholic poles)

adelupThreads: - Posts: 13 Joined: May 3, 07	May 28, 07, 21:47 / #
Quoting: bunia There is no such thing as equal woman and man in islam. bunia I don't know where did u get that from, women in Islam have equal rights as men. Don't forget there is Islam and there is Culture. Understanding true Islam is the perfect package for happiness. I know many friends married to polish women who live a happy relationship and they lead truly Muslim life. It's all up to the husband's life if he practice true Islam i am sure his wife will follow but not for the sake of him, but truly follow the true message of Islam, and being polish and Muslim = the perfect happy family. But if he leads a cultural way of life far from the true message of Islam, i think u r right they will have relationship problems.

adilskiThreads: 6 Posts: 136 Joined: May 19, 07	May 29, 07, 16:39 / #
Quoting: FISZ ou're way too many people to be taken seriously here now. this is a call centre... wid about 800 peeps boxed in... we have one ip address and one port

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,968 Joined: Nov 10, 06	May 29, 07, 17:05 / #
Quoting: bunia I havent been married to an asian man but was in relationship with one. Once you are actually open to understanding their culture and your love is strong it has a chance but... yes there is a but it is complitely diffrent world and complitely diffrent culture than polish. Yes there are similiar when it comes to familly values but in slightly diffrent way. Polish women do care about familly and man's happiness but we can not lead life according to rules of man's father, brother, mother and any other member of familly (his familly). Usually polish woman when shes in love would do almost anything for her man - even change her religion. I dont want to talk about all polish women, because every one is diffrent in the en of day but from my own experience - i wouldnt change religion myself but i would let kids be brought up as muslim - reason for that was: i loved a guy who is muslim and i would love my kids exacly the same way no matter what religion they owuld be. To make that marriage work girl would have to sacrifice ALOT! But girls have to understand that it is a diffrent culture and first you have to actually see it for yourself and spend some time with muslim family to decide if you can do it. Im not saying their way of treating women is wrong - its just diffrent level than polish girls are used to. In the end, even tho i was prepared to do everything for the guy and our love his familly was stronger. He went to visit them and came back engaged because they wanted him to... Happens... You seem a sweet girl, but dont you realise he used you, he would have know for years that he would be married to one of his own kind, whilst you were prepared to make changes to accommodate him he was leading you along.....its sad but in general asians are more racist than whites are and 9 out of 10 ...Asian men will think of white women as trash and good for one thing

adilskiThreads: 6 Posts: 136 Joined: May 19, 07	May 29, 07, 17:16 / #
Quoting: Amathyst 9 out of 10 ...Asian men will think of white women as trash and good for one thing probably not 90% but lots of thm sure do... women need to be strong and not easily lead... and if guys wherever their from cannot commit then they should be able to make that decision from day one... polish gurls or gurls from anywhere white black asian chinese or whatever do not deserve to be treated like something you can change whenever you feel like... genlemen feel ashamed

adelupThreads: - Posts: 13 Joined: May 3, 07	May 29, 07, 21:17 / #
Quoting: adstar what about muslim girls marrying non muslim guys? equality? This is out of context you see we believe Islam is the true religion wifes usually are more influence by the husbands way of life or religion if u want, so they can loose their religion(Islam). but if he convert is no problem he can marry her. fair enough?

garna2010	Aug 25, 07, 20:44 / #
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EurolaThreads: 6 Posts: 2,647 Joined: Dec 2, 06	Aug 26, 07, 00:13 / #
Religion is a very hard obstacle to overcome in a relationship. Relationship itself is a very hard thing to do, you add a difference in religion to it, and it is heading for a disaster. Especially, when both are really practicing ones. Of course there are exceptions...just like in everything. So, save yourself some grief and disappointment. Avoid it, if you can. You may not think about it, when you're sooo in love, you may think you can move mountains. When it come to the nitty-gritty - you can not. Religion - the deep kind - can not be moved. I've seen enough of it.

serpicoThreads: 3 Posts: 23 Joined: Oct 1, 06	Aug 26, 07, 03:16 / #
i think alot of people get confused with issues of religion and issues of culture.. lets be clear, in Islam a guy DOES NOT have to convert a girl to his religion in order to marry her.. but its the different culture and tradition that usually causes the problems... like some men see women as inferior... THAT sort of mentality is what causes problems rather than religion.

a1makji	Aug 26, 07, 08:59 / #
i tell you first hand i met a woman she as polish her perents came from different countris my perents are also from different countris we was happy we couldent spent 5 seconds whith out each other im a muslim she was a cristian thoght the time came for some thing else MARRIGE! in islam you can marry a christian woman or a jew woman whithout her converting thoght there are certian rules its not as stright forward as that, thoght i never had that problem my partner turned round one evening and goes how do you become muslim so i thoght it was time to marry her no use footing around k before people get in volved in a mixed relation ship the first thing to think about iz the what ifs they count when the relation ship moves up levals and becoms serios think about the race the culture the color can you and your people familly exept them can thers exept you? basicaly its about pretty faces you meet you greet you love you dont think about the long term until it hits you in the face i was gunna have a arranged marrige thoght i never was one of this idiots that leads a girl on then dumps her and gets marrid to his own my partner became a muslim she beame my wife we had a child moved to pakistan my family loved her even thoght she was not from the same race or color as we it never mattered she was one of use hers offered her mony to leave me they said come back to poland whith the baby and we give you 40 thosand pounds you can find some other man thats was there idea of a relationship! once she was my wife i became hard thoght she accepted a lot she changed a lot she dressed the way she greeted people basicaly became a house wife looked after the home my father my child and me while i sat on my bum and payed the house keep i thoght after some time i could see she was not happy nor was i the cultural barriers where still there its not easy to bring someone into your life then try and make a home whhith them when there way of life is compltly different to yours she said she would try to change before we got marrid polish girl polish temprament easten male eastern temprament tings never worked out she left called me one day for a ticket i booked her a seat she came back thoght she left again! what i got from this is that if you want a simple laid back life stay whith your own or completly accept each other for who you are! as for my child he has not got his mother no more he was broght upp as a muslim since his birth the birth rights ect no problems the language became a problem wed be speaking english shed start speaking polish and expect me to compleatly understant what she was saying just made thhings worse if i starded speaking urdu,panjabi or patwari the way eastern people are broght up even thight they live and oare raised in the west your religion your family your values it dosent mix whith the western aspect of accept anything and everything so shall every one else a marrige a relationship is a understanding between two people whether they are black brown white eastern western arabic indian pakistani or hespanic.muslim chritian sikh or hindu. Understanding! once the other side fails to compramise thers nothing left really a question of acceptance i suppose most mixed marriges fail everyone losses out when they do especiaslly the kids just leaves them confused to which race color culture and posibly religion they belong to if any as muslims pakistanis we put alot of importance on ower religion and culture its also a question of respect you dont have that in the west its a free culture sleep whith who you want date who you want marry who you want leave them if and when you want male or female we have to think bout what our religion says what people will say what impact will it have on the kids and there upbringiiing what impact will it have on the family. western culture your 18 your free your independant do what whereand as you want doont have to answer to anyone totaly different ways of life Allah hafiZ

locoThreads: - Posts: 20 Joined: Jul 12, 07	Aug 31, 07, 14:12 / #
stop crying and next time mary pakistani...

FISZThreads: 31 Posts: 2,607 Joined: Jun 14, 06	Aug 31, 07, 14:28 / #
Who's Mary Pakistani?

espanaThreads: 40 Posts: 2,233 Joined: Feb 28, 07	Aug 31, 07, 14:39 / #
want everyone to live about their own rules ....fuc* that!!!

isthatuThreads: 4 Posts: 1,627 Joined: Jun 8, 07	Aug 31, 07, 18:43 / #
Quoting: a1makji as muslims pakistanis we put alot of importance on ower religion and culture its also a question of respect you dont have that in the west its a free culture sleep whith who you want date who you want marry who you want leave them if and when you want male or female we have to think bout what our religion says what people will say what impact will it have on the kids and there upbringiiing what impact will it have on the family. yeah,thats disengenuous BS aswell,trust me,plenty of pakistani s live around here, Drink beer,sleep around with white girls,generely act like everyone else does at a young age.. Around family though they are good little Muslimsand 99% of the time end up married off to another muslim,The focus of all that is not "respect" its fear,fear of what some evil men will do and fear your family may murder you,that doesnt stop them cheating on their wife though,no ,they go off and sleep with a non beliver.....and who the hell are you to judge our culture in such a negative way? Yes we have freedom to do what we want,and shock horror,so do women,so what,suppose its better that women are covered head to toe in cloth then?why is that,because your culture and men are too imature to see a bit of flesh? The attitude of many muslims stinks,cheapen the name of white girls and batter your own girls,pity help one who wants a little freedom,her own brother/father/uncle is likely to stab her to death for family "honor", when your "religion" moves out of the 9th century I might accept your critisism of the west,but all in all,look what the west has given to the world then look what the east has contributed...and dont give me any of that crap about arab scholors being geniuses in the middle ages,they just translated the greko roman texts from alexandia library.

espanaThreads: 40 Posts: 2,233 Joined: Feb 28, 07	Sep 1, 07, 03:33 / #
they pray to much always but after that they behave like animals , they dont give a fuc* about any human beings . from all the religions is the one i detest most.

aisha	Sep 1, 07, 17:10 / #
well, muslim women cannot marry infedel, according to muslim tradition she will be killed The rule is if you got into Islam you cannot get out.