Any polish women who are married to muslim people?

Quoting: Evelina

I am dating an Albanian who is Muslim and of coarse Im polish and very Catholic with a very strick Catholic family . All I can truely say that if you have a respect for religion and understand its meaning , then you can make things work . Alot of people focus on the negative aspects instead of holding onto the similarities. We are all human and we all have flaws, that is what can make a huge wedge in relationships. It all depends on the person and how strong of a belief they have , luckily for me my bf is not a practicing muslim and he is on the borderline of converting . The hard part for me would be if we got married not having a catholic wedding and not having my children catholic, that would not be fair, bc I have such a strong faith/practice and for him he's not practicing , that would be the deal breaker for me . I can not just ignore a part of me that has been with me all my life , so for now things have been going great for the 2 yrs we are together so far, and there is great respect for both religions from both of us and great repsect for each other's cultures . We have also compromise in our relationship there is no one person in charge , we discuss everything and we make compramises for each other , where one is week the other is stronger and we compliment each other in our flaws . life and laughter and joy would not exist with out love. Love can conquer all. Once you find the right person you are willing to move mountains for them and they for you.

jareck	Oct 2, 07, 08:58 / #
I think people should visit a mosque to get a better idea, now it is ramadan and this is like lent for muslims, there is one in whitechapel and one in regents park which anyone can visit. there is a group of polish muslim women who have education service in polski

locoThreads: - Posts: 20 Joined: Jul 12, 07	Oct 4, 07, 14:57 / #
Quoting: jareck there is a group of polish muslim women who have education service in polski say samething more about it please...

xxx	Edited by: Administrator Oct 5, 07, 18:05 / #
* 9098 * dobra * lol345 * lola345 * nirmal * shewolf567 * wendy897 * xxx wrote: these forums can be quite insulting to people's beliefs and faiths. There has been so much war and hatred for centuries because of ignorance, power, wealth and prejudices. When are we going to learn from our history. Respect each other and look for the good in people and all people. Why are we so obsessed with the bad ones. Why cant we as a nation celebrate the good and focus on this. There will always be bad people and people who beat their wives, criticise religions, racists, etc - what about tolerance in society. I have been reading these forums and I think the abuse muslims have to suffer since 9/11!! - the media portrays and fuels hatred for muslims everyday. 'Cant you just stop - i am sick of it!!! Have we ever heard the number of muslims being killed in Afghanisistan, Iraq since the USA declared war on the country. - did we ever get a death total number on this? NO - but yet we are the bad ones. May peace be upon you and remember that 99% of muslims are humble and Islam is a way of life - how you treat people. Why is the world focussing on the 1 percent of bad muslims?? Celebrate the good in people!!

RanjThreads: 27 Posts: 1,286 Joined: Sep 29, 06	Oct 5, 07, 18:13 / #
Quoting: xxx Respect each other and look for the good in people and all people Completely agree with you, xxx. I read a meditation today that dealt with that very subject. Basically, we can make our own lives happy if we focus on the good in others and in our own lives. Unfortunately, and I believe it has been said here many times, the media all over the world is responsible for spreading hatred towards other cultures and countries. Personal experience does contribute to the prejudice of some, but I think the majority are influenced by media.

xxx	Oct 5, 07, 19:12 / #
Quoting Ranj I am so glad I have finally found a sane person who holds some light - THANK YOU!!!! I was telling some Polish friends about the hatred I have read on these forums and how they have upset me. I am glad to have made contact with a sane and open minded person. Makes me feel better that there is hope in our society and we should always focus on the good and not fuel hate and anger towards each other - May peace be upon you

HalloweenThreads: - Posts: 41 Joined: Sep 19, 07	Oct 9, 07, 12:27 / #
ok mr xxx tell me then why theres no even one polish person in the world who cares about other polish who convert to other religion and thousands of muslims who are like that, do u know what freedom meens? what would u do if u met muslim person like this? just ignore him cause doesnt concern u? isnt it right time for abolishing stupid habbits of muslims? youtube.com/watch?v=SvguCViEB7w

a1makji	Oct 12, 07, 06:42 / #
since wife beating is on the agenda why is it all polish men in poland come home at twelve at night or stay out in the cold frosted night after a dozn pints and start beatin the hell out of the polish wifes and girl freinds polish girls love muslim men for there looks not for there religion the girls are well educated for a communist world thoght they are usally from devout chatholic backgrounds makes me wunder why the magority of polish women in england are divorced or haveing affiars if the so called western world has so much race religion culture to offer everyone go down any high street on a friday saturday night in england and ya find the men yelling slappers and dolla dolls ant there white female counterparts.

sapphireThreads: 28 Posts: 1,418 Joined: Dec 7, 06	Oct 12, 07, 06:53 / #
Quoting: a1makji go down any high street on a friday saturday night in england and ya find the men yelling slappers and dolla dolls ant there white female counterparts. I'm English, and forgive me but I dont understand what on earth you are talking about???.. what is a dolla doll?

sane_brisbane	Oct 13, 07, 06:46 / #
here the racists gather. Preach their mind in the name of Christ. What an anti christ. let ppl be happy n mingle, wots ur problem?

Username	Oct 13, 07, 23:44 / #
Quoting: tornado2007 just my six pennies worth i think the whole Muslim world dosen't have a clue how to treat women correctly in fact more often than not they abuse and oppress them. Why any non-Muslim lady would want to marry a Muslim is well beyond me Yeahhh....did anyone ever read Arab Nights? no respect for women (at least the version i read , most of the guys "overcome" the women in the stories)

HmmmThreads: 1 Posts: 91 Joined: Sep 18, 07	Oct 15, 07, 14:17 / #
I was in Wroclaw last month. A young gypsy boy accosted me and rattled on something in Polish, obviously gesturing that he needed money. I politely told him in English that I don't speak Polish, thinking that would discourage him. But he spoke back to me in pretty decent English. I gave him 10 pl. and a very surprised look. How come this lying gypsy spoke English while hardworking regular supermarket checkout staff can't? Gypsy... English? How? How? How? (Alright, I'm not that desperate to know the answer, I'm just hamming)

adilskiThreads: 6 Posts: 136 Joined: May 19, 07	Oct 15, 07, 14:31 / #
Quoting: Hmmm I politely told him in English that I don't speak Polish, thinking that would discourage him. But he spoke back to me in pretty decent English. I gave him 10 pl. and a very surprised look. How come this lying gypsy spoke English while hardworking regular supermarket checkout staff can't? Gypsy why is it youy have to label these people... in england these people are simply known as polish.. why becasue they have polish id cards and passporrts... what about the next few generations of poles in usa are they calling themsleves american or polish... what i am trying to say is that i nationality is somehting made up by people.. that is not really ur identity becasue if you look around the world countries are born based on human intervention.. etnicity is only used for equality purposes so you ensure you are equal in society... many people from poland have turkish blood but now they are pur polish... try and think beyond the small nationalistic, capitalistic education people have been given... deep down if we all took away these cultural, ethnic differences there would be pure equlaity for human kind.

HmmmThreads: 1 Posts: 91 Joined: Sep 18, 07	Oct 15, 07, 15:02 / #
Quoting: adilski adilski The young boy I met at the bistro (I'm sure he was a Polish national), looked unkempt and sort of stoned as he asked me to part with some money, but to my surprise he spoke English fairly decently, while the lovely lady serving at the bistro (obviously, schooled and groomed) found it fairly difficult to converse in English - which is not at all an impediment in my opinion. Question: how come the vagrant was more fluent in a foreign language? Was it because he was trained in the language to palm off money from unsuspecting tourists or did he receive a formal education in an English medium and then decided to use his language skills to make weekend money? Incidentally, the Polish lady at the bistro was the one who reminded me that the boy was a gypsy - I for one had no clue; kind of makes me feel less guilty not labelling people.

CrnogoracThreads: 5 Posts: 238 Joined: Sep 21, 07	Oct 15, 07, 16:00 / #
Quoting: adilski Any polish women who are married to muslim people? A woman's mood is a funny business! A woman cares not about a man's faith. A hundred times she would change religion to accomplish what her heart desires.

Username	Oct 13, 07, 23:52 / #
Quoting: xxx 'Cant you just stop - i am sick of it!!! Have we ever heard the number of muslims being killed in Afghanisistan, Iraq since the USA declared war on the country. - did we ever get a death total number on this? NO - but yet we are the bad ones. May peace be upon you and remember that 99% of muslims are humble and Islam is a way of life - how you treat people. Why is the world focussing on the 1 percent of bad muslims?? Celebrate the good in people!! every religion gets bashed at some point or another, because of the small amount of people in it do bad. catholics get bashed too (believe me, I am one and it is sad how many people attack me because of my religion), jews get it too, mormons, and the lists just go on. it's just human nature, sadly enough. everyone's hypocritical. media doesnt help things either. do you ever watch news which talk about somethign good? speaking of which, did you know that in US, there are 8 major (or even less) news stations who control other news stations? talk about propaganda....

Noname	Edited by: Administrator Oct 13, 07, 23:54 / #
Quoting: a1makji since wife beating is on the agenda why is it all polish men in poland come home at twelve at night or stay out in the cold frosted night after a dozn pints and start beating the hell out of the polish wifes and girl freinds polish girls love muslim men for there looks not for there religion the girls are well educated for a communist world thoght they are usally from devout chatholic backgrounds makes me wunder why the magority of polish women in england are divorced or haveing affiars if the so called western world has so much race religion culture to offer everyone go down any high street on a friday saturday night in england and ya find the men yelling slappers and dolla dolls ant there white female counterparts. * AnkaBaranka * Noname * Username wrote: Could you please write more legibly? I have horrid writing...but this beats all...

locoThreads: - Posts: 20 Joined: Jul 12, 07	Oct 15, 07, 14:03 / #
Quoting: a1makji polish girls love muslim men for there looks not for there religion well, for polish girls and boys muslims look like gypsys, because of coulor of skin, In Poland gypsys are associated with beggers and dirty, stinky people and the fact that a few village polish girls go out with muslims is because of money and knowledge of english so it makes their live easier...

adilskiThreads: 6 Posts: 136 Joined: May 19, 07	Oct 15, 07, 14:11 / #
you hve labeled all individuals with moderate brown complexion as gypsy LOOKING, tha includeds mixed race, latino and even white aryan who have been in the sun for a long time.. Quoting: loco for polish girls and boys muslims look like gypsys that is a fair comment, Quoting: a1makji why is it all polish men in poland come home at twelve at night or stay out in the cold frosted night after a dozn pints and start beatin the hell out of the polish wifes and girl freinds dear sir or madam you cannot assume 'ALL' are like this, yes people in poland have come across this issue and yes it is to do with alchohol however what about countries like iran or pakistan or india where alchohol is not available - there is still wife beating... i have to say being muslim doesnt make one beautiful as the person stated that polish girls love muslim guys for their looks.. both of you are generalising to an extent that is not logical, if you look at islam it has a place for all people.. and not all polish gurls like muslim people some like hindu some like catholic? did you get the hint.. and one more thing to the guy who is defending islam.. i fyou read the creed you will realise that it states there is god but allah.. if you believ alla h as your creator then how can you labale his creation.. guys open ur minds

adilskiThreads: 6 Posts: 136 Joined: May 19, 07	Oct 15, 07, 16:41 / #
Quoting: Hmmm he spoke English wow.. people speaking english makes them special does it.. and the lovely lady didnt? what a great set of thoughts and ideas one has... even if she told you that is not important.. in england people also beg for money in english,, they also rob in english, they rape in english.... point to everyhting is we shuldnt label them gypsys.. they are human just like yourself.. maybe you call yourself english or ethiopian but deep down theres not much difference.. back to this thread... love and marriage

HmmmThreads: 1 Posts: 91 Joined: Sep 18, 07	Oct 15, 07, 20:25 / #
Quoting: adilski wow.. people speaking english makes them special does it.. and the lovely lady didnt? what a great set of thoughts and ideas one has... Adil, you're misinterpreting my post. I clearly implied that the woman who couldn't speak English all too well was in no way inferior - Quoting: Hmmm fairly difficult to converse in English - which is not at all an impediment in my opinion I have Polish friends in the advertising fraternity who are film producers and creative directors - perfectly well-versed in English. And I have other friends and acquaintances in Italy, in Paris, in Beirut... who aren't. But I don't respect one over the other. Knowing little or no English at all isn't a stigma, just as having a command over it is not a status symbol. My surprise was how could someone seemingly under-educated and jobless and substance-dependent talk the language as fluently as my college-educated receptionist at the hotel in Wroclaw? Is it the Polish education system, is it home schooling? Would be happy if you can answer this straight to the point. And not take the opportunity to position yourself as a defender of human dignity and patronise me. I don't judge people by their depth of knowledge in English, I evaluate them by their depth of character.

Evelina	Nov 1, 07, 23:45 / #
I am dating an Albanian who is Muslim and of coarse Im polish and very Catholic with a very strick Catholic family . All I can truely say that if you have a respect for religion and understand its meaning , then you can make things work . Alot of people focus on the negative aspects instead of holding onto the similarities. We are all human and we all have flaws, that is what can make a huge wedge in relationships. It all depends on the person and how strong of a belief they have , luckily for me my bf is not a practicing muslim and he is on the borderline of converting . The hard part for me would be if we got married not having a catholic wedding and not having my children catholic, that would not be fair, bc I have such a strong faith/practice and for him he's not practicing , that would be the deal breaker for me . I can not just ignore a part of me that has been with me all my life , so for now things have been going great for the 2 yrs we are together so far, and there is great respect for both religions from both of us and great repsect for each other's cultures . We have also compromise in our relationship there is no one person in charge , we discuss everything and we make compramises for each other , where one is week the other is stronger and we compliment each other in our flaws . life and laughter and joy would not exist with out love. Love can conquer all. Once you find the right person you are willing to move mountains for them and they for you.

HussarThreads: - Posts: 10 Joined: Nov 2, 07	Nov 4, 07, 13:16 / #
just don't do it !!! and if you do for gods sake don't ever EVER move to one of those 13th century countries, reveling in the devolution of humanity based on religious fundamentalism, hell don't move to ANY Islamic nation.....unless of course u're into slavery and abuse in which case have fun with it. ;)

abdul	Nov 4, 07, 18:00 / #
muslims will just convert....so dont do it

krysiaThreads: 26 Posts: 3,604 Joined: Aug 10, 06	Nov 4, 07, 18:20 / #
Quoting: Evelina I am dating an Albanian who is Muslim and of coarse Im polish and very Catholic with a very strick Catholic family I can just imagine the shock some Polish parents go through when their daughter dates a muslim. Your family might be more open to this, but do what you believe will make you happy and don't let families interfere with your choice.

jareck8	Nov 5, 07, 06:10 / #
Quoting: Evelina I am dating an Albanian who is Muslim and of coarse Im polish and very Catholic with a very strick Catholic family . All I can truely say that if you have a respect for religion and understand its meaning , then you can make things work . Alot of people focus on the negative aspects instead of holding onto the similarities. We are all human and we all have flaws, that is what can make a huge wedge in relationships. It all depends on the person and how strong of a belief they have , luckily for me my bf is not a practicing muslim and he is on the borderline of converting . The hard part for me would be if we got married not having a catholic wedding and not having my children catholic, that would not be fair, bc I have such a strong faith/practice and for him he's not practicing , that would be the deal breaker for me . I can not just ignore a part of me that has been with me all my life , so for now things have been going great for the 2 yrs we are together so far, and there is great respect for both religions from both of us and great repsect for each other's cultures . We have also compromise in our relationship there is no one person in charge , we discuss everything and we make compramises for each other , where one is week the other is stronger and we compliment each other in our flaws . life and laughter and joy would not exist with out love. Love can conquer all. Once you find the right person you are willing to move mountains for them and they for you. lots of respect dear sister, i think yuo shuld be careful, im not ebing judgemental but many men change later on in life changing religion is very big, if yu have understoof your religion and feel that you can practise it without fail then this guy is ok, but can you really, the guy doesn know about catholocism he needs to leanr,, it works both ways. let me tell you their prophet married a chritian lady and encouraged her to go church he also had a child- ibrahim.. leanr about islam first then make the choice.. love is good but life is more important.. are yu in london they have clases froe new moslems in eas london whitechaple

jareck8	Nov 5, 07, 06:14 / #
Quoting: krysia I can just imagine the shock some Polish parents go through when their daughter dates a muslim. Your family might be more open to this, but do what you believe will make you happy and don't let families interfere with your choice. yes thats right, one of my neighbours is a czech orignally polish girl married toa muslim from paksitan, her parents were ok with her marrying this chap, but she neevr toled them she practises.. they found out and were very veyr upset... this is natural.. becaue its to do with faith... and parent should be upset or atleast concerned becaseu they have taught thier child.. however adutls can make thier own choice, if soemone understands any religion and makes an informed choice then that is a ifferent story.. i know many of our gilrs dating msulims and idnians, and down the line they convert im not sure why.. is it pressure, is it threats? faith is in the heart

farooqThreads: - Posts: 8 Joined: Nov 7, 07	Nov 10, 07, 12:41 / #
really sorry abt ur story but what u said is obslutely right abt polish women.i am an example of muslim marrying a polish and leading a happy life for years now. hi jarek8 no threats espeacially from indian muslim we are modern we will tell them what is islam religiion if they like they can practice or leave it. with threats islam never can be practised.ofcourse we beleive in freedom of relegion. pa hi xxx ur obsolutely right.i appreciate that.

cts605Threads: - Posts: 1 Joined: Nov 10, 07	Nov 10, 07, 15:30 / #
I want to meet u right now but we have long distance?

k123	Nov 12, 07, 19:21 / #
i dont think its a political debate we are talking about love & marriage here not about your hate of any religion , colour or nation.

Evelina	Nov 14, 07, 16:03 / #
Quoting: jareck8 lots of respect dear sister, i think yuo shuld be careful, im not ebing judgemental but many men change later on in life changing religion is very big, if yu have understoof your religion and feel that you can practise it without fail then this guy is ok, but can you really, the guy doesn know about catholocism he needs to leanr,, it works both ways. let me tell you their prophet married a chritian lady and encouraged her to go church he also had a child- ibrahim.. leanr about islam first then make the choice.. love is good but life is more important.. are yu in london they have clases froe new moslems in eas london whitechaple He has learned he has taken theology for sevral years to understand and appreciate all religions .And from learning he has a great respect for mine. And I have also studied theology for 12 yrs so I have a great respect and understanding of all religions. So for me this works. And communication is very important in a relationship.