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What are the perceptions of polish towards homosexuality?

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filipina	Jul 15, 09, 04:02 / #
im a filipina with a beautiful polish girl.she's still keeping our relationship coz she said someone might kick her ass there in Poland.Is that really true ?Polish despise homosexuals? hmmm :(

thebear45Threads: 2 Posts: 95 Joined: Apr 22, 09	Jul 15, 09, 05:25 / #
dunno bout polish, but in albania, u both dead. prob stone to death, or sumthing else if ur lucky.. u best go seek help, cuz ur sick.

King SobieskiThreads: 7 Posts: 1,106 Joined: Jan 22, 07	Jul 15, 09, 05:42 / #
thebear45: dunno bout polish, but in albania, u both dead. prob stone to death, or sumthing else if ur lucky.. u best go seek help, cuz ur sick. what a way to accept people...you should go into tourism.

thebear45Threads: 2 Posts: 95 Joined: Apr 22, 09	Jul 15, 09, 05:50 / #
King Sobieski: accept people this are sick ppl.. homosexuals

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,188 Joined: Jun 7, 07	Jul 15, 09, 08:39 / #
Have a look on a gay site...and see what the name bear refers too....

terriThreads: 1 Posts: 385 Joined: May 3, 09	Jul 15, 09, 08:41 / #
Homosexuals as people are no different to heterosexuals. I, as a hetero woman would rather spend time with homosexual men - at least I am certain they will never try to get me drunk and then try to rape me. If it is just the actual practice of how homosexuals have sex - then half the population of women are homosexual - as they allow hetero men to have sex in exactly the same way. So what exactly is your problem with that?

inkrakow	Jul 15, 09, 08:47 / #
Yes, Poland is pretty intolerant of gays and lesbians. It doesn't surprise me at all that she's worried about what people here will think.

terriThreads: 1 Posts: 385 Joined: May 3, 09	Jul 15, 09, 09:05 / #
Why then do you have to advertise the fact? There are plenty of girls linking arms all the time when they walk down the street and nobody calls them lesbians. If you are in an 'intollerant country' as Poland still is towards anyone who is not the same as the majority, whether gay, lesbian, coloured, with piercings, with different coloured hair, with skirts that are too short, with skirts that are too long, - I could go on and on - then you have to behave. There are clubs, places to meet for gays and lesbians - you just have to find them - in there you might not feel that everyone is staring and pointing their fingers at you.

King SobieskiThreads: 7 Posts: 1,106 Joined: Jan 22, 07	Jul 15, 09, 10:10 / #
thebear45: this are sick ppl.. homosexuals really...codral help?

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,727 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Jul 15, 09, 10:21 / #
filipina: What are the perceptions of polish towards homosexuality? Straight or gay Polish people?.

mafketisThreads: 17 Posts: 1,880 Joined: Mar 31, 08	Jul 15, 09, 10:49 / #
thebear45: this are sick ppl.. homosexuals At least they're not Albanians.

King SobieskiThreads: 7 Posts: 1,106 Joined: Jan 22, 07	Edited by: King Sobieski Jul 15, 09, 10:57 / #
mafketis: At least they're not Albanians. ouch... i wonder if rock endorses bear's view.

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,955 Joined: May 17, 07	Jul 15, 09, 11:49 / #
thebear45: but in albania, u both dead. prob stone to death, or sumthing else if ur lucky.. This is Albania.

filipina	Jul 15, 09, 12:43 / #
inkrakow It doesn't surprise me at all that she's worried about what people here will think.. hmm will think ,how about wt they will do? like hit her or something?

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,727 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Jul 15, 09, 12:44 / #
filipina: how about wt they will do? like hit her or something? Highly unlikely. Anyway, how will anyone know she is gay?.

filipina	Edited by: filipina Jul 15, 09, 12:51 / #
coz of our nasza-klasa. we are obvious there.her friends might saw our comments etc . she said someone in her neighbor might kick her ass wen she go out of home.

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,955 Joined: May 17, 07	Jul 15, 09, 12:57 / #
Actually I saw quite a few obviously lesbian girls in Poland in pairs.

filipina	Jul 15, 09, 13:00 / #
straight

filipina	Edited by: filipina Jul 15, 09, 13:24 / #
my gf is in radom, is it possible that people there are brutal?and can hit her coz she's a lesbo?

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 [Suspended]	Edited by: Harry Jul 15, 09, 13:25 / #
Radom is indeed a complete and utter sh!thole. Don't bother going there even if there is nobody who wants to beat you up.

filipina	Jul 15, 09, 13:29 / #
oh why? lol tell me about radom

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 [Suspended]	Jul 15, 09, 13:41 / #
filipina: oh why? lol tell me about radom It is arguably the most depressed and depressing city in Poland. Not somewhere that you ever want to visit more than once. Or even just once. The other reason for you avoiding it is that while you might not have problems there because you are gay, you're quite likely to face problems because you aren't white.

mafketisThreads: 17 Posts: 1,880 Joined: Mar 31, 08	Edited by: mafketis Jul 15, 09, 15:47 / #
filipina, this question comes up from time to time. Here's my take. Traditionally Polish people aren't too concerned about the moral status of homosexual behavior but the uncommon nature of it. That is, Poles tend to be conformists and they're suspicious of those who stand out. On the other hand, contrary to a lot of publicity, a lot of (especially educated) Polish people see tolerance as a basic virtue and when an issue is presented in terms of tolerance then they'll intellectually choose that (even if they can't always follow through especially well). All in all, things were developing slowly (but well) for gay people until a few years ago when some of the more socially conservative parties (there are no socially libreral parties in Polish politics) paid attention to American politics where fag bashing always wins at the polls and decided to follow suit. Since then, there's been tension between Polish politicians wanting to be taken seriously by the rest of Europe and wanting to pander to the less educated voters by talking up the queer menace. Current situation: All in all almost no Polish people have anything like gaydar. Unless you actually tell people directly to their face you're gay no one is liable to notice or care. If you are _very_ open then some people will react negatively (though probably not violently, Poles aren't Albanians after all). Also, don't pay attention to Harry, he doesn't even know Polish and certainly doesn't understand Polish values at any level. He simply knows they're different from his and so he looks down on them (as he looks down on anyone different from him). I've been through Radom by bus a couple of times. It's not a beauty spot but it's not awful either. Finally, your girlfriend is lying. She's not afraid of physical violence (unless you make out in the street). My guess is that she's afraid of her parents. In Poland (probably like the Phillipines) your parents are _always_ your parents and many adults are afraid of telling their parents things they think would upset them. sad irony: one of the worst anti-gay demogogues in Polish politics is probably gay himself.

Filios1Threads: 15 Posts: 1,953 Joined: Nov 13, 07	Jul 15, 09, 16:15 / #
Harry: Harry Christ, when will you learn to just shut the fu%k up?

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 [Suspended]	Edited by: Harry Jul 15, 09, 16:21 / #
mafketis: Also, don't pay attention to Harry, he doesn't even know Polish and certainly doesn't understand Polish values at any level. Yes, what would I know about it, what with living here for a decade and a half, doing work for the Campaign Against Homophobia and all that. What I really need is a mouthy Yank trying to pop off at me. Isn't it time that you stopped playing at being a European bohemian and pissed off back home? Filios1: Christ, when will you learn to just shut the fu%k up? I'm still waiting for you to tell me all about the brave Greek heroes who took part in the Srebrenica genocide and are now being persecuted. Do tell.

scrappletonThreads: - Posts: 1,365 Joined: Apr 28, 09	Jul 15, 09, 16:25 / #
Harry: Campaign Against Homophobia Lol, put a book in your pants when you visit Harry's flat.

mafketisThreads: 17 Posts: 1,880 Joined: Mar 31, 08	Jul 15, 09, 16:26 / #
Harry: What I really need is a mouthy Yank trying to pop off at me. Good thing I'm here then. Harry: Isn't it time that you stopped playing at being a European bohemian and pissed off back home? I'll think about it about the same time you stop thinking you're superior to everyone who's not you (or you learn Polish well enough to get your info about the country you live in first hand instead of filtered).

Filios1Threads: 15 Posts: 1,953 Joined: Nov 13, 07	Jul 15, 09, 16:27 / #
Harry: brave Greek heroes They did a fine job... As for them being hunted down like dogs, I was a bit overexageratting. Actually, not many government officials want to catch these men, and not many civilians do either. Proud of them, and proud of our Serbian brothers. The 'hunt' is mostly just for show, so you can sleep well tonight Harry, thinking of these men drinking ouzo and eating souvlaki in some nice Greek village.

lexiThreads: 1 Posts: 188 Joined: Feb 17, 09	Jul 15, 09, 16:31 / #
mafketis: I've been through Radom by bus a couple of times. It's not a beauty spot but it's not awful either Really is there a place called random? I thought that this was just a made up name on this forum. Please tell me where is random, between where?

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 [Suspended]	Edited by: Harry Jul 15, 09, 16:34 / #
Filios1: They did a fine job... Only you (and Crow) could refer to the mass murder of civilians as "a fine job". But thanks for saying it: it shows other people what a piece of scum you are. lexi: Really is there a place called random? I thought that this was just a made up name on this forum. Please tell me where is random, between where? No there is no such place in Poland. However there is a town called Radom: it's a sh!thole.

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