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Are Polish People Racist?


Wujek_Dobra_Rada  
3 Aug 2006 /  #121
So you have have been in the EU for just 2 years and you think you have influence? You will get a shock just like those before (Spain etc).

The situation now is much different - we are in a Europe of 25, not an Europe of 10 or 15. France and Germany no longer have such an influance on the EU as it was in any point of time in the past - and this is a new situation.

We certainly aren`t going to bow down accepting some silly rules, who don`t have much in common with common sense. Certainly not with this government (which I have a feeling is going to last for quite a while) as well with the peoples atitudes. The same can be said about the Balts, who not long ago made it virtually impossible to legalize gay marriage in their countries, the Czechs, who have a president who shares exacly the same views as ours, the Slovaks, who not long ago had problems with Gypsie riots, and who had elected a leftwing government who had created a coalition with a REAL rightwing extremist party, whose leader attends his parliamentary sessions with a loaded pistol calling for the anahilation of Hungary (which is quite funny btw.), the Hungarians, had also lived under communism, and don`t want to see any sort of censorship in their country, as well the Romanians and Bulgarians, who are going to enter the EU very soon.

Ofcourse right now we aren`t in a position to improve Europe for the better, we can only block some of the Euro-leftie silly ideas - but things change pretty fast in Europe.
Shelley  
3 Aug 2006 /  #122
World domination!
truebrit 3 | 196  
3 Aug 2006 /  #123
Poland is receiving billions in aid from UK,Germany,France etc to build up its infastructure.Don't think they will give you this money for nothing.

Ofcourse right now we aren`t in a position to improve Europe for the better, we can only block some of the Euro-leftie silly ideas

Good luck.
Wujek_Dobra_Rada  
3 Aug 2006 /  #124
And we`ve spent 10 billion EUR to adujust our system to the EU rules, we`re paing over 2 billion EUR to the EU budget each year and we are allowing your companies to transfer their revenues into UK, Germany and France ect. - on a mass scale, though they should pay the same taxes as Polish companies are doing here - I wouldn`t say that our EU membership is free. We have to pay for it and we had to do to pay for it in the past not also in financial terms by also by tolerating some of the past French/German impertinence.

Not mentioning all the large companies that we had to sell to various EU "inverstors" - cose you know - EU membership negotiations aren`t only about politics - it`s also about big business - and there are always some lobby groups who want to use the situation to force the government of a new EU country to sell some of it`s assets at a fraction of its price, or even better paying the "buyer" for "buying" those assets - as a condition of jojning the EU. We had a couple of such situation where our goverment HAD to sell its shares in a bank or a company to a foreign company who were lobbying in the EU - as a CONDITION of jojning the EU - so don`t tell me that our membership is free.
Shelley  
3 Aug 2006 /  #125
I dont think they're going to get very far with these kind of things though! Whilst the Americans in some states might find it acceptable the last hanging here was 1964 and dont see that this would ever happen again - it's barbaric (whatever the method) - and the reason I'm against is because, I believe we live in a civilised society and lets face it, whilst it's dererant it's not exactly working in the USA

The extreme-right League of Polish Families (LPR), minority party in Poland's governing coalition, announced Wednesday a Europe-wide campaign to restore the death penalty, drawing a swift rebuff from the European Union.
truebrit 3 | 196  
3 Aug 2006 /  #126
We had a couple of such situation where our goverment HAD to sell its shares in a bank or a company to a foreign company

Welcome to the global economy.
Shelley  
3 Aug 2006 /  #127
:)
Wujek_Dobra_Rada  
3 Aug 2006 /  #128
I dont think they're going to get very far with these kind of things though! Whilst the Americans in some states might find it acceptable the last hanging here was 1964 and dont see that this would ever happen again - it's barbaric (whatever the method) - and the reason I'm against is because, I believe we live in a civilised society and lets face it, whilst it's dererant it's not exactly working in the USA

But there are many people in Europe who`d like to see the death sentence back (in our country it`s 70% of the population - I wonder what is the percentage of people willing to see the death sentence in the UK, Italy, Spain or France.. but I guess we aren`t going to know anything about it cose asking such questions would be "against European values").

I think that we`re living in a democracy - in democracy if the majority of the people in and EU state wants something - the reintroduction of the deathsentence or anything else - then it should recive what it wants. But it looks as if the EU isn`t democratic enough to face an open discussion with its citizens about a simple issue.

I also wonder if according to the Euro lefties euthanasia is compatible with "EU values" why the death penalty isn`t. And who is setting those "EU values" if obviously a serious debate about them is obviously "agains them".

Welcome to the global economy.

Global economy dosn`t have anything to do with blackmail - when it comes to people who supposed to become your partners.
Shelley  
3 Aug 2006 /  #129
euthanasia is compatible with "EU values"

Well, I think if a person wants to die, but is unable to do it themselves I think a loved one should be able to assist - surely if you were in pain and there was no chance of recovery - it would be your wish to die?

I know that it goes again catholic beliefs but doesnt the death penalty? - an eye for an eye - but that could be countered with "let him without sin cast the first stone"........

I think that a lot of people in England would vote for the death penalty, but then again there would be a lot that would vote against....
Wujek_Dobra_Rada  
3 Aug 2006 /  #130
Well, I think if a person wants to die, but is unable to do it themselves I think a loved one should be able to assist - surely if you were in pain and there was no chance of recovery - it would be your wish to die?

Yep - but there are people who are living in pain becaouse of an illness and want to die - and when they are cured they are regreting that they were wishing to die.

The same could be said about people who were sentenced to death and later proven to be innocent.

There are pros and contras in both cases - and both issues can be putten as equal - but the EU is tolerating one issue without a question while on the other hand it is not tolerating the other not asking people about their opinion but also not allowing even to talk about it. The EU citizens ought to decide if they want to have the death sentence or/and euthanasia in their own country - and it isn`t really important if the death penalty is right or wrong (which in my opinion is right, but there are people who disagree, and they have the right to do so)

I know that it goes again catholic beliefs but doesnt the death penalty? - an eye for an eye - but that could be countered with "let him without sin cast the first stone"........

Religion dosn`t have anything to do with law or crime prevention. The death penalty is the ultimate penalty that had always existed in Europe - if applied to the most voilant crime it scares people off comiting those crimes - and it gives a proper sense of justice to the victims and their families.
Shelley  
3 Aug 2006 /  #131
if someone is terminally ill - there is no cure! no regrets, just pain and agony for the person and their loved ones
Wujek_Dobra_Rada  
3 Aug 2006 /  #132
But there alway can be a cure. i.e. untill reacently there was no effective cure against the Parkinsons diese - now there are a couple of them - some of them were even developed here. There is often no hope for people with brain tumors - but there are cases where people are cured. There are people who suffered brain damage - who later on got back to their normal lives ect.
guest-iwona  
3 Aug 2006 /  #133
Actually,things are getting stricter now-they are finally throwing these people in jails etc.I don't know why they allowed it so long.Now you are in the EU you must accept the conditions as well as the benefits.This means it will happen in Poland but be much,much worse.

Truebrit,

What do you mean worse?

Poland is receiving billions in aid from UK,Germany,France etc to build up its infastructure.Don't think they will give you this money for nothing.

I am not economist but.... they also have new big market in in our countries to sell their products( for instance cars) , open new supermarkets,banks, have cheaper labour. They have quite a few benefits from it.

someone is terminally ill - there is no cure! no regrets, just pain and agony for the person and their loved ones

it is quite difficult subject. I am against eutanasia as I am catholic and it is agianst my beliefs. But it is theory If I was in situation like this I don't know what I would do.
Shelley  
4 Aug 2006 /  #134
But there alway can be a cure. i.e. untill reacently there was no effective cure against the Parkinsons diese - now there are a couple of them - some of them were even developed here. There is often no hope for people with brain tumors - but there are cases where people are cured. There are people who suffered brain damage - who later on got back to their normal lives ect

Not in every case - you lack life experience - 10 years from now, read what you have just written and I'm sure you will re-think what you have said

it is quite difficult subject. I am against eutanasia as I am catholic and it is agianst my beliefs. But it is theory If I was in situation like this I don't know what I would do

I understand - Im catholic and it's something I personally know I couldnt do but I also think that in a case where someone is not going live whatever meds are given there should be a choice.

I'm not sure where Wujek_Dobra_Rada gets his 70% from!

But there alway can be a cure.

Lung Cancer?
rafik 18 | 589  
4 Aug 2006 /  #135
Lung Cancer?

i watched one of my relatives die from cancer and it was horrible!!i would like to have the right to make my decison if i feel ill.even if the cure is find it takes years of tests to start sellin such a drug.you would wait dieing.belive me it is a damn painful to die from cancer
howzit_tjommie  
5 Aug 2006 /  #136
IndianPolishGurl

I come from Australia and believe be you ignorant b*tch we work too. Besides, you're fighting about this on a computer. You would have to have time to do this, why aren't you focused on your work? Wow - i guess lazy governments also support half-caste Polish-Indian girls now. How good for you. How lucky you are to be in the US and have seen Australia - oh wait...you haven't been to Australia. Dear me, then you must have educated yourself through some source of overseas correspondence yes? Or are you another arrogant piece of filth that sits their lazy asses on a computer seat and passes judgement on every country. Come to Australia, experience life here. As for kangaroos - you are an idiot, they dont hop down our street or our heads. Futhermore if Australia and the US is so bad, go back to Poland or India or wherever the hell you think is better than the country that is paying you and giving you the privilige of writing your lame and stupid opinions of the web!
truebrit 3 | 196  
5 Aug 2006 /  #137
Or are you another arrogant piece of filth that sits their lazy asses on a computer

Dear IndianPolishGurl please ignore this idiot (howzit_tjommie)
barbie  
5 Aug 2006 /  #138
Re:
"jesus christ what a racist word!!!
i think that words :black, brown and yellow should be wiped out from our dictionaries"
I so agree with you. I have made this arguement often recently and nobody gets it. What right do people have to refer to others as a color ? Here in Georgia, USA, you have to fill out forms for employment, school, etc. which have sections were you are supposed to mark a 'race': "white," "black," "asian," "hispanic," or "native american." What is wrong with this picture? I mean why can't people respect others heritage? If you are European, why do you have to be called "white?" "White" in comparison to who? It's all racism and it sucks. Talking about polish persons, I can't say they are all racists, because I do not know. But I do get comments from one of my Polish friends like : 'I can't get black like you from the sun," referring to my medium-brown complexion. Ridiculous!

Have you ever heard of "African," "African-American," etc? Why the desperate need to refer to someone as a color. It's 2006 and people are still backwards. Do you call Asians a color? And what about American-Indians? What color are they? Racism is racism whether you are aware of it or not.

Have you ever heard of "African," "African-American," etc? Why the desperate need to refer to someone as a color. It's 2006 and people are still backwards. Do you call Asians a color? And what about American-Indians? What color are they? Racism is racism whether you are aware of it or not.
rafik 18 | 589  
5 Aug 2006 /  #139
i really can NOT see anything wrong with that.you are oversensitive in this matter,thats all.it is like with jokes about jews-eveything is called anti-semitizm.the world is going crazy when it comes to racizm.
guest-iwona  
6 Aug 2006 /  #140
But I do get comments from one of my Polish friends like : 'I can't get black like you from the sun," referring to my medium-brown complexion. Ridiculous!

I don't see it as rasist remark. I work with indian girl who has pretty complexion like coffe mocca- it is her description- and she is quite proud of it.

Here in Georgia, USA, you have to fill out forms for employment, school, etc. which have sections were you are supposed to mark a 'race': "white," "black," "asian," "hispanic," or "native american." What is wrong with this picture?

it is the same in England- and to be honest I find it rasist- Why , when yoyu apply for a job they ask you about your skin? Does it matter?

Talking about polish persons, I can't say they are all racists, because I do not know

some are , some not- like everywhere.
lef 11 | 477  
7 Aug 2006 /  #141
i think that words :black, brown and yellow should be wiped out from our dictionaries" I so agree with you.

Yeah lets form a racial policing, any person who uses the wrong word lets put him in jail..
come on barbie get a life, I'm sure sure most people who are white, black etc are proud of there color and think nothing of being referred as such, only you are making such a fuss.

If a person was attacked by a person who was black or asian, will telling the police he was attacked by a black person etc make him a racist.

Tell my, nothing is wrong when a colored person calls somebody white
Shelley  
7 Aug 2006 /  #142
i really can NOT see anything wrong with that.you are oversensitive in this matter,thats all.it is like with jokes about jews-eveything is called anti-semitizm.the world is going crazy when it comes to racizm

I couldnt agree more!

it is the same in England- and to be honest I find it rasist- Why , when yoyu apply for a job they ask you about your skin? Does it matter

to check that employers are employing people of other ethnic backgrounds - you can always put other on the form
rafik 18 | 589  
7 Aug 2006 /  #143
Polish for a business trip

Shelley
i think he wants to take someone with him(preferably beautifull,leggy blonde:))
Shelley  
7 Aug 2006 /  #144
or maybe a big hairy bloke! and whats wrong with beautifull leggy brunettes?
rafik 18 | 589  
7 Aug 2006 /  #145
and whats wrong with beautifull leggy brunettes?

:)absolutely nothing shelley:)

i think that lef should see that:)
Wujek_Dobra_Rada  
7 Aug 2006 /  #146
But I do get comments from one of my Polish friends like : 'I can't get black like you from the sun," referring to my medium-brown complexion. Ridiculous!

Jeez, I can not belive that I`m saying this - but I will do it to show you how stupid you are.

...If you`re Arab, you are white. Arab people are officially considered to be white the same way as we Europeans are. Even Mohamet was white.

usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/003.sbt.html

At that time the Prophet was sitting amongst us (his companions) leaning on his arm. We replied, "This white man reclining on his arm." The an then addressed him, "O Son of 'Abdul Muttalib."

And since Arabs are white, it proves very well that skin color dosn`t have anything to do with the amount of stupidity that can be applied to people.
lef 11 | 477  
7 Aug 2006 /  #147
i think that lef should see that

yeah, what can I say, indianpolish girl was just playing around, post in question was probally a over kill, but people are entitled to speak there mind...

Australians are very proud of there country and that goes for polish people who have settled here, they know its the best country in the world and they can get very vocal if they hear bullshit. Just recently we had Mr Gorbachov here (his second visit) and he liked it, Mr Clinton was here he loved it
orishas  
8 Aug 2006 /  #148
ey i'm going to visit my friend in poland but i've an indian passport....is that a big issue?
I've heard that the immigration service is pretty strict and agressive....?
Wujek_Dobra_Rada  
8 Aug 2006 /  #149
Well, they`re only doing their job. If you`re not going to make any problems, dress acordingly (in any way that would discourage any impression that you might be poor) and you`re not seeking assylum here, you shouldn`t have any problems.
Shelley  
8 Aug 2006 /  #150
Capital punishment will never be practiced in this country again and euthanasia will never be legal - certainly not in my lifetime - the judicial system in the country is archaic and would take years to introduce such things.

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