Poland and Ukraine

Listen, Ironside. I know you are not good at all in history and I can feel in logic

man, you have to accept yourself.

Whats your point?

well, you have a problem with interpreting history, so it fits your way of thinking, which is obvious to some;)

If Im wrong - tell me why

Sorry, I didn't notice that it was addressed to Nathan:), wasn't it?

Do you understand my postion, now, Nathan?

Well, Nathan you cannot insult me.

Ignorance can't be insulted.

Well, since Poles can look for their roots in the Polan tribe, I don't see why Ukrainians could do the same in Cossacks, or even earlier in Kievan Rus.

After all, what would an Ukrainian be without his Polish Pan. ;)

That would, God forbid, mean that their forefathers also had something to do with the fate of Cossacs and Ukrainian peasants.

Ha,ha.

You support your interests and nothing else.

Ukrainians are stealing whole Polish companies who invested there

After all, what would an Ukrainian be without his Polish Pan. ;)

Russia was invented by Peter

But they are cool.

Well, the Polish had Russian cookers, why shouldn't the Ukrainians have Polish pans?

You had no litertaure, no elite, no dynasty or territory you could claim as your own no before 1848 anyway - take or leave a few years.

I was hoping for interesting exchange but you have nothing to suport your view just yours belives and myths.

Nathan

HM

Give me an example where exactly they are suppressed. Facts, please and links, but not to ru.com if you can.

Although officially the Russian-speaking population is about 30 % (2001 census) 39 % of the Ukrainians interviewed in a 2006 survey thinks that the rights of the Russophones are violated because the Russian language is not official in the country, whereas 38 % had the opposite position.[31] [32]

According to parliamentary deputy Vadim Kolesnichenko, the official policies of the Ukrainian state are discriminatory towards the Russian-speaking population.[21] The Russian language population received 12 times less state funds then the tiny Romanian-speaking population in 2005-2006.[21] The schooling in Russian is nearly stopped in all central and western oblasts and Kiev.[21] The Russian language is not available anymore in higher education in all Ukraine, including the areas with a Russian-speaking majority.[21] The broadcasting in Russian averaged 11.6 % (TV) and 3.5 % (radio) in 2005.[21] Kolesnichenko is a member of Party of Regions with majority of electorate in eastern and south Russian-speaking regions.

"The Cossack Hetmanate began in 1649 as a result of the Khmelnytsky Uprising and lasted until 1775 when it was taken over and dissolved and taken over by the Russian Empire. The Hetmanate had a very high literacy. There was a higher number of elementary schools per population in the Hetmanate than in either neighboring Muscovy or Poland. In the 1740s, of 1,099 settlements within seven regimental districts, as many as 866 had primary schools.[6] The German vistitor to the Hetmanate, writing in 1720, commented on how the son of Hetman Danylo Apostol, who had never left Ukraine, was fluent in the Latin, Italian, French, German, Polish and Russian languages [7]"

In my opinion Russians are absolutely right when they cliam that Ukraine is too nationalistic country.

In case of Ukrainians membership in NATO there is going to be home war.

Russian language population received 12 times less state funds then the tiny Romanian-speaking population in 2005-2006.

Nobody is planning to go into NATO

Yes, especially russians can say that after murdering millions of people, nations and cultures. Of course, we are.

Intellectual polish superiority explain only one thing to me, please:
"The Cossack Hetmanate began in 1649 as a result of the Khmelnytsky Uprising and lasted until 1775 when it was taken over and dissolved and taken over by the Russian Empire. The Hetmanate had a very high literacy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_literature

"The Poles suppressed the Ukrainian educational system, reducing the number of Ukrainian-language schools from 440 to 8. Higher education became unattainable for Ukrainians in Poland. In the middle schools in Volhynia only 344 (14%) Ukrainians were enrolled in comparison to 2599 Poles (1938).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Ukrainian_minority_in_Poland

Ironside:
You had no litertaure, no elite, no dynasty or territory you could claim as your own no before 1848 anyway - take or leave a few years.
Ironside:
I was hoping for interesting exchange but you have nothing to suport your view just yours belives and myths.