Why do Poles drink so much?

Quoting: lef, Post #22

nothing wrong with drinking (I'm on my 10th beer now) ha ha it becomes a question of affordability and health risk.

Doctors tell us that that having 2 standard drinks per day ie 2 glasses of wine or beer is the maximun you should have, binge drinking refers to 10 or more standard drinks in one session.
As we all know having two drinks would'nt even touch the sides and I doubt any pole would stop at having only two drinks.

Although alcohol and drug abuse is rife in all western countries accessibility is a big issue, In Australia alcohol is cheap (in relation to wages) and is not limited to beer and spirits, wine is very, very popular and cheap.
Alcohol is not expensive to produce, it is what government tqke out in tax duty.

The price of alcohol came down in poland because of national cry out, as governments tried to cash in on drinkers, undoubtedly when thinks get better in poland so then will the government put up alcohol taxes.
The price of cigarettes in poland shoud be doubled, half going to hospitals to care for patients suffering from smoking relating diseases.. This is the case in Austalia.

Thanks for your comments and attachments rafic, I would love to meet you and all others on this forum (including wujek) over a glass of beer and vodka.

From my information drug and alcohol abuse in country poland is cronic at the moment, which is leading to increase assaults and robberies

lefThreads: 13 Posts: 564 Joined: Jun 27, 06	Jul 18, 06, 20:01 / #
Can I ask one questions and I am the first person to enjoy a cold beer, why do poles drink so much?? and enjoy "getting stuck in the grog"

boloThreads: 4 Posts: 345 Joined: Jul 11, 06	Jul 18, 06, 20:08 / #
Poles drink too much? Never heard of it ).

lefThreads: 13 Posts: 564 Joined: Jun 27, 06	Jul 18, 06, 20:17 / #
smartie

Kisiu	Jul 18, 06, 21:00 / #
I think they drink less and less, actually (compared to the last 50 years). Poles take care more of themselves, try to eat better food, and lead a healthier lifestyle. Beer is more preferred than vodka. Also, I noticed many beers in small bottles (0.25 L) compared to the "original" Polish bottles (0.5 L). So there positive signs there.

lefThreads: 13 Posts: 564 Joined: Jun 27, 06	Jul 18, 06, 22:11 / #
I hope so. the reason why the size of the bottles have been reduced was not to improve the health of the polish people; Drink less? I don't think so?

Guess	Jul 18, 06, 22:29 / #
I haven't been in Poland since 2002. Poles seem to drink less indeed. Maybe I'm wrong though

lefThreads: 13 Posts: 564 Joined: Jun 27, 06	Jul 18, 06, 23:38 / #
the cost of drink has gone up, home made brew is popular

rafikThreads: 21 Posts: 740 Joined: Jun 22, 06	Jul 19, 06, 05:21 / #
Quoting: lef, Post #7 the cost of drink has gone up, home made brew is popular lef i dont know when yuo were last time in poland but after reading a few of your posts i think you are talking BS.you said you have made a lot of friends in poland but i just wonder what kind of friends they are. they must be losers,moaners,arse-lickers spitting at their own country unable to do anything with their lifes.this is probably why they drink too much(do you drink with them?).POLES do NOT drink much compared to other western-type countries.lets take enghland.when you walk downtown on friday night you see hundreds drunk people often fighting and smashing things-i don't belive that austraLIA is any BETTER.the only difference is that we get drunk on vodka,you on whiskey or bourbon or alcoholic drinks. there is a problem with our health care system-but others have it too including such a rich country like the UK. they have not enough:nurses,docs,beds in hospitals,hospitals and hygene in hospitals is not up to standards(MRSA bug) Quoting: lef, Post #7 the cost of drink has gone up, home made brew is popular the cost of drink has gone down;0.5 bottle of vodka used to cost 20-22zl now you can get it for as little us 13zl beer-2-3zl now 1,5zl in supermarket home made brew used to be popular now it is easier to pop in to the local shop/supermarket-of course there are some people who do it but not so many like 10 years ago.it is strange that your friends don't understund your sarcastic tone when you talk about poland and poles or maybe they join the choir? make some new friends who are well off(there are many of them in poland) don't moan too much, drink less than average,post-communist pole

Wujek_Dobra_Rada	Jul 19, 06, 10:18 / #
Can I ask a question, why do aUSSIES like to stink all day and prefer to have sex with kangaroos ?

Wujek_Dobra_Rada	Edited by: Wujek_Dobra_Rada Jul 19, 06, 10:30 / #
Alcohol consumption - Liters (litres) per capita (pop. aged 15+) 1960 1970 1980 1990 1995 1999 2000 2001 2002 Australia 9.4 11.6 12.9 10.5 9.6 9.9 Austria 10.9 13.9 13.8 12.6 11.9 11.4 11.3 Belgium 8.9 12.3 14 12.1 11.1 10.2 Canada 7.2 8.7 11.1 9.2 7.4 7.6 7.7 7.8 Czech Rep 11.8 11.3 11.6 11.9 11.8 11.8 11.9 Denmark 5.5 8.6 11.7 11.7 12.1 11.6 11.5 11.4 11.2 Finland 2.7 5.8 7.9 9.5 8.3 8.6 8.6 9 9.2 France 16.8 16.1 12.7 11.5 10.7 10.5 Germany 7.5 13.4 13.8 11.1 10.6 10.5 10.4 10.4 Greece 13.2 10.7 10.6 10.5 9.4 Hungary 8.2 11.5 14.9 13.9 12.2 12.2 12.3 13.4 Iceland 3.8 4.3 5.2 4.8 5.9 6.1 6.3 6.5 Ireland 4.9 7 9.6 11.2 11.5 13.8 14.2 14.5 14.3 Italy 16.6 18.2 13.2 10.9 10.4 9 8.7 Japan 6.9 8.1 8.9 8.6 8.3 8.2 Korea 9.1 8.9 9.2 8.9 8.5 9.2 Luxembourg 13.1 15.6 14.7 14.8 15 14.9 Mexico 3.5 4.9 5.1 4.8 4.6 Netherlands 3.7 7.7 11.3 9.9 9.8 10.1 10 New Zealand 5.3 9.8 11.8 10.1 9.4 8.9 8.9 8.8 9.2 Norway 3.4 4.7 5.3 5 4.8 5.5 5.7 5.5 5.9 Poland 8.3 8.2 8.6 8.5 Portugal 14.9 16.1 14.6 13.2 13 Slovak Rep 6.9 12.8 14.5 13.4 10.3 10 8.9 8.7 8.8 Spain 16.1 18.5 13.5 11.4 11.7 11.7 Sweden 4.8 7.2 6.7 6.4 6.2 6.1 6.2 6.5 6.9 Switzerland 12.1 14.2 13.5 12.9 11.4 11.1 11.2 11 10.8 Turkey 0.9 1.1 1.8 1.4 1.7 1.6 1.5 1.4 1.4 UK 7.1 9.4 9.8 9.4 10.3 10.4 10.7 11.1 US 7.8 9.5 10.5 9.3 8.1 8.2 8.3 Source: OECD HEALTH DATA 2004, 1st edition

Tlum	Jul 19, 06, 12:54 / #
Quoting: ola, Post #12 Wow, i didnt know people drink so much in Luxembourg...interesting Alcoholic beverages are relatively cheap in Luxemburg and Luxemburg is a small country. For this reason it is very attractive for inhabitants of neighbouring countries that live close to the border to buy spirits in Luxemburg and consume them in their own country. erso.eu/knowledge/content/05_alcohol/alcohol_consumption.htm

olaThreads: - Posts: 22 Joined: May 17, 06	Jul 19, 06, 12:59 / #
K, so the figures above are sales, now i understand, thanx.

Tlum	Jul 19, 06, 13:02 / #
Yes, I think these are sale figures (how else they would be able to measure it otherwise). They should have noted, then, that a reasonable number of Poles go to the Czech Rep or Slovakia to buy cheaper spirits .

Wujek_Dobra_Rada	Jul 19, 06, 13:47 / #
Quoting: Tlum, Post #15 Yes, I think these are sale figures (how else they would be able to measure it otherwise). They should have noted, then, that a reasonable number of Poles go to the Czech Rep or Slovakia to buy cheaper spirits . And how many people from as far as Britain are coming here each year to buy their booze (and cigaretes) ?

rafikThreads: 21 Posts: 740 Joined: Jun 22, 06	Jul 19, 06, 11:36 / #
Quoting: Wujek_Dobra_Rada, Post #10 Alcohol consumption - Liters (litres) per capita (pop. aged 15+) 1960 1970 1980 1990 1995 1999 2000 2001 2002 Australia 9.4 11.6 12.9 10.5 9.6 9.9 Austria 10.9 13.9 13.8 12.6 11.9 11.4 11.3 Belgium 8.9 12.3 14 12.1 11.1 10.2 Canada 7.2 8.7 11.1 9.2 7.4 7.6 7.7 7.8 Czech Rep 11.8 11.3 11.6 11.9 11.8 11.8 11.9 Denmark 5.5 8.6 11.7 11.7 12.1 11.6 11.5 11.4 11.2 Finland 2.7 5.8 7.9 9.5 8.3 8.6 8.6 9 9.2 France 16.8 16.1 12.7 11.5 10.7 10.5 Germany 7.5 13.4 13.8 11.1 10.6 10.5 10.4 10.4 Greece 13.2 10.7 10.6 10.5 9.4 Hungary 8.2 11.5 14.9 13.9 12.2 12.2 12.3 13.4 Iceland 3.8 4.3 5.2 4.8 5.9 6.1 6.3 6.5 Ireland 4.9 7 9.6 11.2 11.5 13.8 14.2 14.5 14.3 Italy 16.6 18.2 13.2 10.9 10.4 9 8.7 Japan 6.9 8.1 8.9 8.6 8.3 8.2 Korea 9.1 8.9 9.2 8.9 8.5 9.2 Luxembourg 13.1 15.6 14.7 14.8 15 14.9 Mexico 3.5 4.9 5.1 4.8 4.6 Netherlands 3.7 7.7 11.3 9.9 9.8 10.1 10 New Zealand 5.3 9.8 11.8 10.1 9.4 8.9 8.9 8.8 9.2 Norway 3.4 4.7 5.3 5 4.8 5.5 5.7 5.5 5.9 Poland 8.3 8.2 8.6 8.5 Portugal 14.9 16.1 14.6 13.2 13 Slovak Rep 6.9 12.8 14.5 13.4 10.3 10 8.9 8.7 8.8 Spain 16.1 18.5 13.5 11.4 11.7 11.7 Sweden 4.8 7.2 6.7 6.4 6.2 6.1 6.2 6.5 6.9 Switzerland 12.1 14.2 13.5 12.9 11.4 11.1 11.2 11 10.8 Turkey 0.9 1.1 1.8 1.4 1.7 1.6 1.5 1.4 1.4 UK 7.1 9.4 9.8 9.4 10.3 10.4 10.7 11.1 US 7.8 9.5 10.5 9.3 8.1 8.2 8.3 Source: OECD HEALTH DATA 2004, 1st edition so are you gonna say now lef? have you got some different information? i told you that you mix up with the wrong people. after saying so much shi.t about Poland you want to come here again for 12 months"i am looking for a fully furnished house in krosno for 12 months"-what for?

olaThreads: - Posts: 22 Joined: May 17, 06	Jul 19, 06, 12:46 / #
Wow, i didnt know people drink so much in Luxembourg...interesting

Tlum	Jul 19, 06, 14:11 / #
And how many people from as far as Britain are coming here each year to buy their booze (and cigaretes) ? I guess quite a few (even though their heads are not that good as the Polish ones ).

rafikThreads: 21 Posts: 740 Joined: Jun 22, 06	Edited by: rafik Jul 19, 06, 15:23 / #
Quoting: lef, Post #1 Can I ask one questions and I am the first person to enjoy a cold beer, why do poles drink so much?? and enjoy "getting stuck in the grog" AGE IS A FACTOR IN BINGE DRINKING hi lef again.i have something for you to read about.australians are writing about other australians.have fun 04 February 2002 Australia is a nation of binge drinkers, with hazardous drinking particularly common in young adults. Researchers found that more than two-thirds (67 per cent) of alcohol consumed is drunk in a way that is dangerous to health — through heavy binges or by drinking more than 5 days a week. But hazardous drinking was particularly common in the 18-24 years age group. Drinking that would cause acute or chronic health problems accounted for 93 per cent of all alcohol drunk by men in that age group, and for 82 per cent of young women. By comparison, 41 per cent of alcohol consumed by those aged 65 or over would cause acute or chronic health problems, the researchers wrote in the Medical Journal of Australia (2002;176:91-92). Lead author and director of Perth's National Drug Research Institute Professor Tim Stockwell said that contrary to previous beliefs, this research showed that high-risk drinking was extremely common and involved more than just a small number of problem drinkers.

rafikThreads: 21 Posts: 740 Joined: Jun 22, 06	Jul 19, 06, 17:56 / #
Quoting: rafik, Post #18 AGE IS A FACTOR IN BINGE DRINKING hi lef again.i have something for you to read about.australians are writing about other australians.have fun 04 February 2002 Australia is a nation of binge drinkers, with hazardous drinking particularly common in young adults. Researchers found that more than two-thirds (67 per cent) of alcohol consumed is drunk in a way that is dangerous to health — through heavy binges or by drinking more than 5 days a week. But hazardous drinking was particularly common in the 18-24 years age group. Drinking that would cause acute or chronic health problems accounted for 93 per cent of all alcohol drunk by men in that age group, and for 82 per cent of young women. By comparison, 41 per cent of alcohol consumed by those aged 65 or over would cause acute or chronic health problems, the researchers wrote in the Medical Journal of Australia (2002;176:91-92). Lead author and director of Perth's National Drug Research Institute Professor Tim Stockwell said that contrary to previous beliefs, this research showed that high-risk drinking was extremely common and involved more than just a small number of problem drinkers. i forgot to mention that this is from australian website

rdywenur	Jul 19, 06, 18:40 / #
Why do Poles drink alot? Cause we can!!!!!

lefThreads: 13 Posts: 564 Joined: Jun 27, 06	Jul 19, 06, 21:51 / #
nothing wrong with drinking (I'm on my 10th beer now) ha ha it becomes a question of affordability and health risk. Doctors tell us that that having 2 standard drinks per day ie 2 glasses of wine or beer is the maximun you should have, binge drinking refers to 10 or more standard drinks in one session. As we all know having two drinks would'nt even touch the sides and I doubt any pole would stop at having only two drinks. Although alcohol and drug abuse is rife in all western countries accessibility is a big issue, In Australia alcohol is cheap (in relation to wages) and is not limited to beer and spirits, wine is very, very popular and cheap. Alcohol is not expensive to produce, it is what government tqke out in tax duty. The price of alcohol came down in poland because of national cry out, as governments tried to cash in on drinkers, undoubtedly when thinks get better in poland so then will the government put up alcohol taxes. The price of cigarettes in poland shoud be doubled, half going to hospitals to care for patients suffering from smoking relating diseases.. This is the case in Austalia. Thanks for your comments and attachments rafic, I would love to meet you and all others on this forum (including wujek) over a glass of beer and vodka. From my information drug and alcohol abuse in country poland is cronic at the moment, which is leading to increase assaults and robberies

rafikThreads: 21 Posts: 740 Joined: Jun 22, 06	Jul 20, 06, 05:33 / #
Quoting: lef, Post #22 nothing wrong with drinking (I'm on my 10th beer now) ha ha it becomes a question of affordability and health risk. Doctors tell us that that having 2 standard drinks per day ie 2 glasses of wine or beer is the maximun you should have, binge drinking refers to 10 or more standard drinks in one session. As we all know having two drinks would'nt even touch the sides and I doubt any pole would stop at having only two drinks. Although alcohol and drug abuse is rife in all western countries accessibility is a big issue, In Australia alcohol is cheap (in relation to wages) and is not limited to beer and spirits, wine is very, very popular and cheap. Alcohol is not expensive to produce, it is what government tqke out in tax duty. The price of alcohol came down in poland because of national cry out, as governments tried to cash in on drinkers, undoubtedly when thinks get better in poland so then will the government put up alcohol taxes. The price of cigarettes in poland shoud be doubled, half going to hospitals to care for patients suffering from smoking relating diseases.. This is the case in Austalia. Thanks for your comments and attachments rafic, I would love to meet you and all others on this forum (including wujek) over a glass of beer and vodka. From my information drug and alcohol abuse in country poland is cronic at the moment, which is leading to increase assaults and robberies ok.so what was your question about then cos now i think i did not get it

iwonka-guest	Jul 20, 06, 13:35 / #
why do English drink so much????

Tlum	Jul 20, 06, 13:37 / #
Quoting: lef, Post #22 I'm on my 10th beer now Meaning the foreign beer in the small bottles? It's only about 5 Polish beers

olaThreads: - Posts: 22 Joined: May 17, 06	Jul 20, 06, 13:38 / #
So maybe lets change the question: why do some people all over the world drink too much?

Tlum	Jul 20, 06, 13:40 / #
Quoting: ola, Post #26 So maybe lets change the question: why do some people all over the world drink too much? Because this world is not meant to be perfect...:}

rafikThreads: 21 Posts: 740 Joined: Jun 22, 06	Jul 20, 06, 17:15 / #
Quoting: lef, Post #22 nothing wrong with drinking (I'm on my 10th beer now) ha ha it becomes a question of affordability and health risk. Doctors tell us that that having 2 standard drinks per day ie 2 glasses of wine or beer is the maximun you should have, binge drinking refers to 10 or more lef again you screw it up again.you tripped over your own question or it was supposed to be "why do i drink so much..."

Shelley	Jul 21, 06, 07:45 / #
Quoting: Wujek_Dobra_Rada, Post #16 And how many people from as far as Britain are coming here each year to buy their booze (and cigaretes) ? The above is true, but I personally like a bit of culture and cheap beer and fags was not the reason I went to Poland....good food, history and fab climate was. of course teh above is a bonus Quoting: iwonka-guest, Post #24 why do English drink so much???? We have a large influx of people from other countries, so this might have something to do with the stats....or are you referring to Brits abroad??? who cant handle the local brewe! Look, whilst I'm proud to be English, I am ashamed at the behaviour of the British Morons who drink more than they can handle, I can only apologies for these bafoons

guy	Jul 21, 06, 22:03 / #
well when i was in poland last year in brzeg, i saw a lot of drunk people out on the streets, they werent bothering anyone or anything but they were sure as hell drunk. It was my first time in poland since i left for the states and when i got back and told my mom about what has happened to her town she said that its always been like that so, i dont think that we drink too much, but when we do drink we like to get drunk.