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polish bison - your thoughts?

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BubbaWooThreads: 46 Posts: 4,438 Joined: Sep 26, 06	Nov 21, 08, 12:41 / #
plenty of polish bison should we beat them to death with a blunt object, cook them on an open fire and eat them with frytki ? surely thats what theyre there for

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,727 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Edited by: SeanBM Nov 21, 08, 12:45 / #
Yeah, Polish bison are the very last remaining in the primeval forests in Europe. I would like to see them, aren't they mainly around Bialastok? And the North East of the country? They are beautiful looking creature.

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07	Edited by: osiol Nov 21, 08, 12:51 / #
I always put the scientific name of plants when I talk about them, so why should animals be any different? This is the amazing Bison bonasus, reintroduced to the wild after near extinction - only a few remained in captivity in the first half of the 20th century. - Equus asinus ssp. intelligentissimus

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,727 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Edited by: SeanBM Nov 21, 08, 13:19 / #
Actually, Does any one know when and where i can see wild live Bison? And what's the best time to go? They're a beautiful beast. Great adds with Żubr :) osiol: why should animals be any different? What about the Polish name, Żubr.

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,188 Joined: Jun 7, 07	Nov 21, 08, 13:36 / #
They are in the large forest that lies half in Poland , half in Belarus....i was there , in fact i strayed over the border , by accident...very dramatic....loved the Bison tho...got some great pics....

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07	Nov 21, 08, 13:49 / #
They are simultaneously beautiful and ugly, powerful and fragile.

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,727 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Edited by: SeanBM Nov 21, 08, 13:55 / #
wildrover: got some great pics.... Tell us the story and show us the pictures, please :) osiol: They are simultaneously beautiful and ugly, powerful and fragile. Yeah, I know the Żubr beer adverts romanticise. They just remind me of a mix between buffalo and mammoths. And the primeval forest, great stuff.

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,188 Joined: Jun 7, 07	Nov 21, 08, 14:24 / #
Actually we were hunting the wolves , with a camera...i got talked into driving a film crew around in a Landrover after rescuing them from a deep mudhole with my Landrover...The guy they had driving was not exactly an expert off road driver...Whilst chasing the wolves about we saw quite a few zubr , and some funny guys with machine guns who told us we had inadvertantly crossed the border into Belarus..oops...not so many years ago they would have shot us , now they just escort you back over the border...There isn,t a fence or a sign or anything , so its quite easy to stray onto the wrong side of the border if you are not keeping an eye on your map...

Shawn_H	Nov 21, 08, 14:26 / #
BubbaWoo: cook them on an open fire and eat them with frytki Reconsidering vegetarianism BubbaŁoo?

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,727 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Nov 21, 08, 14:30 / #
Good story WR :) wildrover: so its quite easy to stray onto the wrong side of the border if you are not keeping an eye on your map... Bison don't have maps, at all. I remember a few years ago they changed the law between South Africa and Botswana, the elephants, hippos etc were being shot with tranquillizers dart and dragged back to the country from which they were leaving. They came to an agreement that these animals can roam "freely". I wonder if it still exists? I know this is common practise in many countries, unfortunately.

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,188 Joined: Jun 7, 07	Nov 21, 08, 14:36 / #
SeanBM: Bison don't have maps, Sadly neither do wolves , or they would stay on the Polish side of the border where they are protected as opposed to the Belarussian side where its legal to shoot em....

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,727 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Edited by: SeanBM Nov 21, 08, 14:47 / #
Invisible lines in the dirt.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Nov 21, 08, 15:49 / #
In answer to ur thread Łukasz, should we do the same with you?

miranda	Nov 21, 08, 15:51 / #
osiol: They are simultaneously beautiful and ugly, powerful and fragile. how poetic of you:)

HatefulBunch397Threads: - Posts: 1,018 Joined: Nov 5, 08	Dec 30, 08, 11:56 / #
Poland has bison? That is so cool!!!! I thought bison were North American, didn't know they existed in Poland. It's good to know!

PrinceThreads: 26 Posts: 826 Joined: Nov 4, 08	Edited by: Prince Dec 30, 08, 11:58 / #
Yes Poland has bison... I've edited previous post because of modertor (it was very off topic) Poland has bisons

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Dec 30, 08, 12:01 / #
Across near Białystok, right? Bison are such beautiful beasts. We used them in our D&D fantasy game. They make good attackers, inflicting heavy damage on foes. Żubr is a good beer. I saw a lumbering lad walk around the city centre with a big bottle of it in his hands. Cool, civil defiance.

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,727 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Dec 30, 08, 12:08 / #
This is from bramkaz another very informative PF poster. This is very interesting about Wildlife in Poland.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Dec 30, 08, 12:10 / #
What a lovely beast! (sounds like an oxymoron). It has some features of the Highland Coo :)

PrinceThreads: 26 Posts: 826 Joined: Nov 4, 08	Edited by: Prince Dec 30, 08, 12:11 / #
I like Żubr too. btw. I've seen some progress in our moderators work ... there is little change and ... noimmigration ect ... It is what I like :) (filios :) I've edited) I am in good mood.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Dec 30, 08, 12:19 / #
Noimmigration had ECT? Really? LOL ;) Żubur, what is that? I was talking about the beer Żubr ;) Let's keep it on topic. I'd love to see a live bison here.

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,213 Joined: Nov 16, 06	Dec 30, 08, 12:24 / #

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Dec 30, 08, 12:28 / #
Thanks Greg, that was helpful, just what the thread needed. There are bison in Bieszczady, I didn't know that. The only bison-like things here are the queues at PKO Bank Polski. They offer rates that'd put even us Scots to shame. Oops, stay on topic. Thanks again Greg

HatefulBunch397Threads: - Posts: 1,018 Joined: Nov 5, 08	Dec 30, 08, 12:59 / #
Seanus: Across near Białystok, right? Bison are such beautiful beasts Bison are very important animals, culturally, to this part of the US. They used to exist in large herds in the northern part of the US, wherever there were grasslands. They need savanna-like conditions to thrive, but with their coats they can tolerate severe winters. I have seen bison in real life. They are much bigger than they look in photos. Our bison are endangered like the ones in Poland. They are scarcer here than in Poland, probably, though I don't know for certain. Ours are mostly domestic cattles crosses kept in captivity, but there is hope the original species can repopulate the north american great plains one day.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Dec 30, 08, 13:05 / #
Where there's a will, there's a way ( I wonder if I'm subconsciously inspired by Obama, I'm listening to him now).

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,727 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Dec 30, 08, 13:26 / #
Bison (Wiki)

Wahldo	Edited by: Moderator Dec 30, 08, 13:34 / #
I wonder if there are a lot of wild boar in Poland. When I was a soldier in Germany you would see them periodically. Apparently a few guys got chased by a mama when they stumbled upon a nest with babies. Boars are fast and mean not like a domestic pig.

HatefulBunch397Threads: - Posts: 1,018 Joined: Nov 5, 08	Dec 30, 08, 13:48 / #
Ours are American Bison, very beautiful and the state animal where I live. Here are two grazing in winter, which I'm sure is their favorite season with all that fur.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Dec 30, 08, 14:05 / #
There are wild boar in the forests near Gliwice. I heard them when I was cycling and didn't stick around long. Curiosity killed more than the cat. There was a guy mauled by one a few years back in the forest between Zabrze and Gliwice. Not a pretty sight.

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,188 Joined: Jun 7, 07	Dec 30, 08, 14:14 / #
In the forest..HA......I have the cute piggies in my garden , they take great delight in ripping up the turf to eat the roots of shrubs and stuff , and last winter i nearly walked into one that was poking about in my woodshed...They can be quite aggresive if you upset one , the females are very defensive of their young , and can infict a nasty bite...The male boar have razor sharp tusks that can rip you down to the bone from knee to groin....Don,t mess with them....

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