Athletics World Championship in Berlin 2009

tornado2007:

there comes a point where a champion becomes a 'former champion' maybe it is her time, nobody could beat her at her peak :)

tornado2007:

mental state,

tornado2007:

its rather a common thing in sports people, they have the talent, fitness etc and sometimes their heads let them down. She has not been in great form so her confidence was low. If you had both athletes at 100% full conditioning Elena Isenbaeva would win, she is the record holder and nobody has ever vaulted higher than her.

tornado2007:

that also means that Rodowska will never achieve and win as much as Isinbaeva. She is a year behind in age but a lot more in wins/titles/talent.

tornado2007:

i would say her peak condition is when she is breaking records over and over again, winning titles over and over again.

tornado2007:

I'm not a Pole but i'm British so will always favour the Pole over the German, i was a bit gutted too as i sort of know how Machlowski felt getting piped at the last second. What i find strange about him is that he can throw it so far but his technique is..... well.........

ShelleySThreads: 18 Posts: 3,647 Joined: Jun 26, 07	Aug 19, 09, 21:49 / #
Since no one has bothered to post a thread about this amazing win at the World Championships I will. Anna Rogowska got gold, I personally didnt think she'd beat Yelena Isinbayeva again since she's probably one of the best volters i've ever seen..Also Monika Pyrek got silver! Go Poland: POLAND (POL) GOLD Athlete Discipline Anna Rogowska Pole Vault W SILVER Athlete Discipline Piotr Malachowski Discus Throw M Szymon Ziólkowski Hammer Throw M Monika Pyrek Pole Vault W Tomasz Majewski Shot Put M BRONZE Athlete Discipline Kamila Chudzik Heptathlon W

SzwedwPolsceThreads: 12 Posts: 1,915 Joined: Feb 21, 09	Aug 19, 09, 23:20 / #
I'm impressed! Poland has made very good results so far! Bardzo ładnie!

rockThreads: 5 Posts: 1,449 Joined: Jun 13, 08	Aug 19, 09, 23:23 / #
Poland prepared very well to this championship. Results are fantastic. Congrats Poles.

tornado2007Threads: 20 Posts: 3,497 Joined: Jul 11, 07	Aug 20, 09, 01:10 / #
ShelleyS: GOLD Athlete Discipline Anna Rogowska Pole Vault W Not even half the pole vaulter that Elena Isenbaeva is and to be honest if Elena was in any sort of form would have won. She is to pole vaulting what Roger Federer is to Tennis, Tiger Woods is to Golf and more closer to home what Usain Bolt is to 100 Metres. ShelleyS: Monika Pyrek Pole Vault W Yeah i think she and an American were joint 2nd, interesting to see two silver medals on one podium. ShelleyS: Piotr Malachowski Discus Throw M Szymon Ziólkowski Hammer Throw M ShelleyS: Tomasz Majewski Shot Put M These are events that i think of Poles doing well in, i don't know why but hammer throw, shot put, javelin, discuss etc etc maybe because of the need for explosive power. So congratulations to the Poles for their efforts, as a Brit i'm very dissapointed with our medal count although at least we have 2 golds :) not much else though!!!! Not good enough for a nation of our athletic history.

ShelleySThreads: 18 Posts: 3,647 Joined: Jun 26, 07	Aug 21, 09, 18:25 / #
tornado2007: Not even half the pole vaulter that Elena Isenbaeva is and to be honest if Elena was in any sort of form would have won. She's in peak condition, she's been beat before by Anna Rogowska, she even said, she couldnt explain why she didnt perform. Im not bothering to respond to the rest of your post, because you pissed on a post which was praising someone worthy of praise. I will put my money where my mouth is I bet you £100 that Anna Rodowska gets a gold at the 2012 olympics! She has a very special talent and is exceptional. I was surprised but not shocked, time for Elena Isinbaeva to move on the lower bit of the podium! As for the Brits, we've had our day, the more we pay our athletes the less they perform! We excell on the water not the track or field - very few and far between, thank god for Jesica Ennis, who hopefully will produce on the day(s) in 2012! As a side note Torney, will you be watching the Zurich meet? I cant wait for Rogowska to kick Isinbaeva's ass now, just to prove you are sooooooooooooooooo wrong. Anna Rodowska - 28 years old Elena Isinbaeva - 29 years old Only a year, but its like dog years in athletics! An extra year of wear and tear! By the way I am a big fan of Elena Isinbaeva but there is someone out there better now!

Wroclaw BoyThreads: 56 Posts: 5,267 Joined: Jul 3, 09 MEMBER	Edited by: Wroclaw Boy Aug 21, 09, 19:46 / #
Polands doing well, i was pissed to see that big German dude pip the Polish guy on his last throw on the discuss. Gutted, i lip read the words on Machlowki's lips after his last throw fell short, he clearly mouthed the word KURWA. LOL Beaten by a German in such a cruel way, that sucks man.

ShelleySThreads: 18 Posts: 3,647 Joined: Jun 26, 07	Edited by: ShelleyS Aug 21, 09, 19:53 / #
Wroclaw Boy: Polish guy on his last throw on the discuss. Me too, especially when the tit tore his top off and started givin it guns and abs to the cameras! Wroclaw Boy: he clearly mouthed the word KURWA This is where my limited Polish comes in to play ;0) LOL Wroclaw Boy: LOL Beaten by a German in such a cruel way, that sucks man. Zuich is round the corner :)

Wroclaw BoyThreads: 56 Posts: 5,267 Joined: Jul 3, 09 MEMBER	Aug 21, 09, 19:56 / #
ShelleyS: Me too, especially when the tit tore his top off and started givin it guns and abs to the camerers! Good to see their top female high jumper bite the bullet though.

tornado2007Threads: 20 Posts: 3,497 Joined: Jul 11, 07	Aug 22, 09, 03:25 / #
ShelleyS: She's in peak condition i would say her peak condition is when she is breaking records over and over again, winning titles over and over again. ShelleyS: she couldnt explain why she didnt perform mental state, its rather a common thing in sports people, they have the talent, fitness etc and sometimes their heads let them down. She has not been in great form so her confidence was low. If you had both athletes at 100% full conditioning Elena Isenbaeva would win, she is the record holder and nobody has ever vaulted higher than her. ShelleyS: Im not bothering to respond to the rest of your post, because you pissed on a post which was praising someone worthy of praise who said i was not praising her/them??? I just pointed out that the 'best' athlete did not win the contest, its like Usain Bolt having a bad race, you know he is the best but didn't win on that occassion. ShelleyS: As for the Brits, we've had our day, the more we pay our athletes the less they perform! i agree with that, we over fund then so they have an 'easy lifestyle' if they had something to fight for maybe they would perform better. ShelleyS: As a side note Torney, will you be watching the Zurich meet? I cant wait for Rogowska to kick Isinbaeva's ass now, just to prove you are sooooooooooooooooo wrong. I wil be looking out of course :) ShelleyS: Anna Rodowska - 28 years old Elena Isinbaeva - 29 years old Only a year, but its like dog years in athletics! An extra year of wear and tear! that also means that Rodowska will never achieve and win as much as Isinbaeva. She is a year behind in age but a lot more in wins/titles/talent. ShelleyS: By the way I am a big fan of Elena Isinbaeva but there is someone out there better now! there comes a point where a champion becomes a 'former champion' maybe it is her time, nobody could beat her at her peak :) Wroclaw Boy: i was pissed to see that big German dude pip the Polish guy on his last throw on the discuss. Gutted, i lip read the words on Machlowki's lips after his last throw fell short, he clearly mouthed the word KURWA. LOL Beaten by a German in such a cruel way, that sucks man. I'm not a Pole but i'm British so will always favour the Pole over the German, i was a bit gutted too as i sort of know how Machlowski felt getting piped at the last second. What i find strange about him is that he can throw it so far but his technique is..... well......... Wroclaw Boy: Good to see their top female high jumper bite the bullet though Yeah that Croatian Blanca (Something) and the Russian nudged her into third!!!

ShelleySThreads: 18 Posts: 3,647 Joined: Jun 26, 07	Aug 22, 09, 22:25 / #
tornado2007: there comes a point where a champion becomes a 'former champion' maybe it is her time, nobody could beat her at her peak :) Peak condition is when an athlete is training well and has no injuries, it has nothing whatsoever to do with "winning" tornado2007: mental state, What are you going on about, she's an olympic gold medalist... tornado2007: its rather a common thing in sports people, they have the talent, fitness etc and sometimes their heads let them down. She has not been in great form so her confidence was low. If you had both athletes at 100% full conditioning Elena Isenbaeva would win, she is the record holder and nobody has ever vaulted higher than her. She didnt make any excuses, she just said she didnt know what happened, why are you making excuses for her when she didnt bother, she was 100%, no injuries, nada! tornado2007: that also means that Rodowska will never achieve and win as much as Isinbaeva. She is a year behind in age but a lot more in wins/titles/talent. That all depends if someone better than Rodowska comes along in the next 3 years and has world championships under her belt, gold at the olympics would be nice, lets see, I have faith in her! tornado2007: i would say her peak condition is when she is breaking records over and over again, winning titles over and over again. You keep saying "peak" ,she is in peak condition - she didnt pull it out the bag on the day, it happens. tornado2007: I'm not a Pole but i'm British so will always favour the Pole over the German, i was a bit gutted too as i sort of know how Machlowski felt getting piped at the last second. What i find strange about him is that he can throw it so far but his technique is..... well......... I personally favour the best athlete who doesnt make a tit of him/herself - as for his technique, as you an expert??? I was a runner and long jump so can make a judgement on certain diciplines, were you a shotputter or discus thrower?

scrappletonThreads: - Posts: 1,365 Joined: Apr 28, 09	Aug 23, 09, 03:13 / #
Bratwurst Boy: They supported the croatian jumper I'd like to support all 193cm of her myself.

SalomonThreads: 6 Posts: 602 Joined: Apr 7, 09	Edited by: Salomon Aug 23, 09, 20:12 / #
Final clasyfication looks good. Poland is 5th country in the world when it comes to athlets. It is good result when we look on fact that Polands population is about 37 mln. (place, country, gold medals, silver medals, bronze medals) 1 UNITED STATES (USA) 10 6 6 2 JAMAICA (JAM) 7 4 2 3 KENYA (KEN) 4 5 2 4 RUSSIA (RUS) 4 3 6 5 POLAND (POL) 2 4 2 6 GERMANY (GER) 2 3 4 7 ETHIOPIA (ETH) 2 2 4 8 GREAT BRITAIN & N.I. (GBR) 2 2 2 9 SOUTH AFRICA (RSA) 2 1 0 10 AUSTRALIA (AUS) 2 0 2

ShelleySThreads: 18 Posts: 3,647 Joined: Jun 26, 07	Aug 23, 09, 22:33 / #
Bratwurst Boy: Really? I hate showboating Bratty, hence the reason I cant stand Bolt, no matter how good he is, the German (I know he was excited, but please, lets have a bit of dignity) tore off his top, up that to that point I though, good lad, well done, after that, I just thought he was a tit! Bratwurst Boy: You are a tit... He most certainly is ;0) scrappleton: I'd like to support all 193cm of her myself. You really need to take a trip to Croatia, she's quite plain in comparison to most of the girls... Well done Poland!! Excellent results!

scrappletonThreads: - Posts: 1,365 Joined: Apr 28, 09	Aug 23, 09, 22:57 / #
ShelleyS: You really need to take a trip to Croatia, she's quite plain in comparison to most of the girls... Zagreb, here I come ;- D

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Aug 22, 09, 22:40 / #
tornado2007: I'm not a Pole but i'm British so will always favour the Pole over the German, i was a bit gutted too as i sort of know how Machlowski felt getting piped at the last second. Yeah...bastard...how dared he... tornado2007: Yeah that Croatian Blanca (Something) and the Russian nudged her into third!!! YAY! Now they won the war against these bastard Germans!!!! That will show them!

tornado2007Threads: 20 Posts: 3,497 Joined: Jul 11, 07	Aug 22, 09, 22:43 / #
ShelleyS: Peak condition is when an athlete is training well and has no injuries, it has nothing whatsoever to do with "winning" it also has a lot to do with 'mental state' which she was obviously not in top condition :) As for winning, i think you will find that this is when an athlete is at their 'peak' ShelleyS: What are you going on about, she's an olympic gold medalist... you obviously don't know very much about sport, preparing for sport and actually doing the sport and having to perform time after time. Each event has a lot of mental preperation, it does not matter if you have won 10 gold medals or no gold medals, the preperation is still the same. There is always the pressure to perform, that never goes away, dosen't matter how much you win or lose. Pressure is a wonderful thing and does the strangest of things to the best performers in the world. What seperates the 'elite' from the 'excellent' isn't usually talent as most top players/athletes/or whatever sport you want to consider, is dependant on bottle, performance under pressure and nerve. Take for example Mark Lewis Francis, he is the prime example of what i would call a 'bottler' has a weak mental side to his sport. When he first broke onto the scene he seemed to have it all, however his nerve let him down, therefore his 'mental' status. ShelleyS: She didnt make any excuses, she just said she didnt know what happened, why are you making excuses for her when she didnt bother, she was 100%, no injuries, nada! I'm pointing out her mental state after her recent poor form (by her standards) if your used to winning and suddenly its not happening for you, its almost as difficult to deal with as never winning and trying to win. ShelleyS: That all depends if someone better than Rodowska comes along in the next 3 years and has world championships under her belt, gold at the olympics would be nice, lets see, I have faith in her! hay i mean good luck to her, she was the best of the rest and took advantage of the situation and grabbed herself a gold medal, thats a brilliant performance by anybodies standards!! ShelleyS: I personally favour the best athlete who doesnt make a tit of him/herself i agree ShelleyS: as for his technique, as you an expert??? were you a shotputter or discus thrower? I'm not an expert at either shotput or discuss, i have the build of a runner & swimmer, not a putter or thrower. I can tell you though the commentator on the TV was an expert and sure did know what he was talking about :) I was not picking at the guy i wasjust pointing out what power he must have due to his lack of technique. ShelleyS: I was a runner and long jump so can make a judgement on certain diciplines well we have something in commong then, i also was a runner and long jumper, I also dabbled in swimming too before moving to team sports.

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Aug 22, 09, 22:47 / #
tornado2007: ShelleyS: I personally favour the best athlete who doesnt make a tit of him/herself i agree Really? tornado2007: I'm not a Pole but i'm British so will always favour the Pole over the German, I'm proud of the Berliner crowd in the stadium. They supported the croatian jumper as much as the german one even as she was her fiercest rival...you wouldn't think of it, I know! You are a tit...

RyszardThreads: - Posts: 123 Joined: Aug 7, 07	Edited by: Ryszard Aug 22, 09, 23:29 / #
Congratulations to Anita Włodarczyk! Gold medal and new world record in women's hammer throw! :D

ShelleySThreads: 18 Posts: 3,647 Joined: Jun 26, 07	Aug 22, 09, 23:43 / #
tornado2007: i think you will find that this is when an athlete is at their 'peak' I think you will find even the best althete loses, nothing to do with their condition, I think you are reading it wrong. tornado2007: you obviously don't know very much about sport I was a member of a running club for years and ran competitively up and down the country..I know quite a bit about the sport. How about you? tornado2007: There is always the pressure to perform, that never goes away, dosen't matter how much you win or lose. Damn right it doesnt, thats what makes us perform on the day, its called nerves! tornado2007: not a putter or thrower Then you know nothing about technique. I dont tend to listen too much to comentators, I keep hearing about the 8th lane in the hurdles and whilst its a really bad lane, I have seen GOOD athletes win.

tornado2007Threads: 20 Posts: 3,497 Joined: Jul 11, 07	Aug 23, 09, 03:02 / #
Bratwurst Boy: I'm proud of the Berliner crowd in the stadium. They supported the croatian jumper as much as the german one even as she was her fiercest rival...you wouldn't think of it, I know! You are a tit... i did think of it and did notice it :) so i'm not that much of a tit then am i :) What is the problem with me saying that i would prefer a Pole to win over a German? Its obvious that the German crowd has inspired some of its athletes to perform better than they usually do, a good crowd if you ask me, i'm also a big fan of the german football crowds who create amazing atmospheres. ShelleyS: I think you will find even the best althete loses, nothing to do with their condition, I think you are reading it wrong. conditioning is what allows an athlete to perfrom, so how can it have nothing to do with it? ShelleyS: I was a member of a running club for years and ran competitively up and down the country..I know quite a bit about the sport. How about you? i've done exactly the same as you and a lot more in a lot of sports, i also teach/coach sports to children (Disabled/Able) and also coach a football and cricket team. I don't claim to be all knowing, in fact far from it, however i do think like yourself i'm qualified to talk on this subject. ShelleyS: its called nerves! yeah i like to call it 'having bottle' sounds more positive, if you 'have' bottle it sounds a lot more positive than 'having' nerves :) I guess its about the psychology ShelleyS: Then you know nothing about technique what nothing about technique at all, or just in these events?? Ow and by the way i think a commentator who has been watching, studying and reading up on athletics for years knows a thing or too :)

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	Aug 23, 09, 22:53 / #
ShelleyS: the German (I know he was excited, but please, lets have a bit of dignity) tore off his top, up that to that point I though, good lad, well done, after that, I just thought he was a tit! Ah come on Shel...you ogled him like all the other girls....admit!

lesserThreads: 7 Posts: 2,014 Joined: Oct 19, 07	Aug 23, 09, 23:18 / #
Salomon: 4 RUSSIA (RUS) 4 3 6 5 POLAND (POL) 2 4 2 6 GERMANY (GER) 2 3 4 Poland sandwiched between these two barbarian states once again! This s**t will never end... :)

SashaThreads: 2 Posts: 1,558 Joined: Apr 19, 08	Aug 24, 09, 05:31 / #
lesser: Poland sandwiched between these two barbarian states once again! :)) I've noticed that too. Anyway you were doing great... good job!

scrappletonThreads: - Posts: 1,365 Joined: Apr 28, 09	Aug 24, 09, 06:09 / #
Salomon: 1 UNITED STATES (USA) 10 6 6 2 JAMAICA (JAM) 7 4 2 3 KENYA (KEN) 4 5 2 More or less: 1 Africa, 2 Africa, 3 Africa.

Athletics World Championship in Berlin 2009 - Poles results

scorpioThreads: 26 Posts: 196 Joined: Nov 15, 07	Aug 24, 09, 07:41 / #
I looked at the main Berlin Athletics 2009 competition entire final medals list on the net and noticed that "Italy" was missing from it. Did anyone know, did Italy compete, or they simply didn't produce any medal?

Wroclaw BoyThreads: 56 Posts: 5,267 Joined: Jul 3, 09 MEMBER	Aug 24, 09, 09:55 / #
Salomon: 5 POLAND (POL) 2 4 2 6 GERMANY (GER) 2 3 4 Would never have expected Poland to beat germany especially when the latter is hosting the games, well done poland.

tornado2007Threads: 20 Posts: 3,497 Joined: Jul 11, 07	Sep 1, 09, 02:58 / #
ShelleyS: Then you know nothing Well with this in mind, when i watched the Zurich IAAF meeting yesterday i was looking forward to the Women's Pole Vault, hoping for a bit of 'proof in the pudding' as far as my reasoning for Elena's performance in Berlin. Low and behold look what happened in Zurich, a new world record, she even managed to upstage Usain Bolt, which takes a lot these days. http://www.iaaf.org/GLE09/news/newsid=54145.html (For those who are not so keen on athletics, here is a link that tells the story :) ) these are the Gold/Silver medal placings, just take a look at the difference in heights cleared: 1 Elena Isinbaeva [RUS] RUS 5.06 20+6(WR) 2 Anna Rogowska [POL] POL 4.76 16 If Rogowska ever clears 5.06 (Which i seriously doubt) I will eat my boxers and post the video of me doing so!!! Form is temporary while class is permanent :):):). I'm not a Ruski lover or a Pole basher but like to see the best win.