Poland v Northern Ireland (soccer/football game)

Big Paddy:

I too am traveling to Polska for the game & today i received details of our fans security arrangements on match day, i have to applaud the Polski Police for their efforts to avoid any attacks on NI fans, they have put in place a very elaborate and well thought out plan that should ensure that our fans wont even get the chance to come into contact with home fans before during or after the game, a heavily protected secure area will be in operation for away fans and i am assured that large amounts of Polska's finest beer's will be made available for the Green & White Army, lol.

Albert	Aug 30, 09, 18:58 / #
Hello, I'm a Northern Ireland fan who is very much looking forward to visiting your country for the big match next week. As you are aware I'm sure there was some trouble in Belfast earlier this year and we have heard reports that there are planned attacks on Northern Ireland fans from Polish hooies. Indeed a Sunday paper published this article today; http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/lsquopsycho-fansrsquo-lo oking-to-killl-14474102.html Is there much truth to this? Will Northern Ireland fans be attacked at random in and outside the stadium? The NI fans who will attend the game will not be hooligans looking for a fight but are just wanting to support their country and enjoying some good nights out in Poland. Northern Ireland fans are more concerned with drinking beer and singing songs and will not want to be involved in any trouble. Regardless, I shall be going to your country and the game and I look forward to it.

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,647 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Edited by: SeanBM Aug 30, 09, 19:33 / #
Hello Albert, And welcome to the Polish forums. Albert: As you are aware I'm sure there was some trouble in Belfast earlier this year and we have heard reports that there are planned attacks on Northern Ireland fans from Polish hooies. There was a thread about it, Click here to take a look. I would read a lot of the views with a pinch of salt. As people on forums have a tendency to be more brave than in real life. Albert: Is there much truth to this? Will Northern Ireland fans be attacked at random in and outside the stadium? (click here) Hooliganism is pretty big here but it is a minority and I would recommend just keeping your eyes open. Enjoy the game.

rumanuThreads: 2 Posts: 17 Joined: Apr 11, 07	Aug 31, 09, 12:22 / #
Polskaaaaaa Biało-Czerwoniiiiii

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,309 Joined: Apr 21, 08	Aug 31, 09, 12:37 / #
Albert it's NOT F--K--G SOCCER, it's FOOTBALL!

dcchrisThreads: 11 Posts: 687 Joined: Oct 29, 07	Edited by: dcchris Aug 31, 09, 14:42 / #
time means: it's FOOTBALL! yes it is!! no problem as far as the hools here imo as they dont really seem to care about the national team and are much more occupied with their local team or more accurately the hools of the opponents of their local. Of course if someone is looking for a problem they will mostly likely find a strong response. Hooligism is more popular in small cities and villages. Young men, no jobs, lots of time

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,309 Joined: Apr 21, 08	Aug 31, 09, 15:05 / #
I think some of them will be out for some type of revenge, it's a nailed on cert. I would be very careful if i were a NI fan over there.

kibic	Aug 31, 09, 15:54 / #
(Komentarz Portalu kibica) footballfans site Comment about article: We Do not question the fact that the journalist was in Chorzow. That he met with leaders of "Psycho Fans" or people pretending to be leaders of „Psycho Fans”. That they showed a machete, that the journalist had seen some „bad stuff”. But what a reasonable journalist goes on a week before the match,so have high risk,to the country's rival and incited hooligans, and then comes back and writes the text manipulates reality and full of bias? How do we draw the attention of Northern Ireland fans in the comments below the text, nothing good will result from such publication, and the editors 'Belfast Telegraph' ( 'Sunday Life' is a supplement to the newspaper) should be ashamed of such low striking instincts. Ireland's own supporters point out the author distortion, so we append. Northern Ireland fans in the majority going to the Polish by Berlin, not because they are afraid to sleep in our country, but because the game was originally taking place in Szczecin. Berlin was the cheapest of the nearby airport, it is no wonder that many people just booked flights to the city. The controversies associated with changes in Chorzow we mentioned. Buses will be substituted for Berlin is not for security reasons, but after that the fans do not have to change your reservation and incur additional costs. Interestingly, the same "Belfast Telegraph" had previously written about it. Where data(evidence?) on the eight fans stabbed to death ? Where did the idea that a fan was killed during the Korona match against Wisla? Whence the assertion that the majority of detainees in Belfast, the Poles? Detained four of our countrymen, but the court held that they were not inciting riots, but were caught up in riots. How, finally, the vision of one thousand hooligans invading Chorzow to fight, more often, families from Northern Ireland? Whether such rivalry would lead to the highest since 1993 clash? We are counting on the sense of all the participants of the game. Comments on the original article is a good sign. All instead of writing about how wild are presented in the text of the Poles, criticize the author for the pursuit of cheap sensation. We hope that the contents will remain just a cheap sensation, and the author will consider what he wanted to achieve. We will also intervene in the journal and editorial site on the publication of the text. google tlanslator

Norn Iron	Aug 31, 09, 16:03 / #
I travel to the majority of Northern Ireland away games and always look forward to meeting the local people. I'd like to say hello and share a beer with as many Polish as possible. Hopefully these hooligans are a minority?? What do real Poland fans have to say about them? Will we be welcome?

ShelleySThreads: 18 Posts: 3,647 Joined: Jun 26, 07	Aug 31, 09, 17:38 / #
Norn Iron: Will we be welcome? The tit who was interviewed sounded like Milwall fan...no brains! Go and enjoy yourself, I doubt very much there will be much trouble.

Albert	Aug 31, 09, 18:51 / #
time means I didn't write that, it was the mods on these forums who rather oddly edited my headline. You'd think it was pretty obvious I was talking about a football match but there you have it. Thanks for the replies.

Grzegorz_Threads: 80 Posts: 6,104 Joined: Nov 16, 06	Aug 31, 09, 22:02 / #
Kill'em all, God will sort'em out.

RevokeNiceThreads: 21 Posts: 2,459 Joined: Jun 20, 09	Aug 31, 09, 22:22 / #
Why fight at football? What buzz do you get out of it? Wanna fight, join a boxing club.

PlasticPoleThreads: 10 Posts: 5,181 Joined: May 28, 09	Edited by: PlasticPole Aug 31, 09, 22:26 / #
It's a rivalry and people think that's exciting. Gets the adrenalin going. Once, at a American Football game here, the football players (opposite team) stampeded one of the guys who's job it is to jump around and yell, on their way from the lockers to the field, injuring him, and there was a huge fuss over that. It's easy for people to get a little too excited.

Big PaddyThreads: 2 Posts: 47 Joined: Mar 30, 09	Edited by: Big Paddy Aug 31, 09, 22:29 / #
SeanBM the potato famines So the famine is relevant to our recent history is it Sean ? I have already stated that i was referring to our recent history, (read back over my previous post mate). The famine was not about being faced against a people with threatening/hostile intent, it was about a people dying of starvation (and nothing to do with snooker) lol. The recent troubles on the the other hand do have relevency (in that we faced down a hostile enemy and emerged undefeated and still intact as a nation, our impending arrival in Poland also has deep hostility in the air. So while your analogy is totally wide of the mark i suggest mine is a hell of a lot closer to reality. And as i don't want a slanging match with anyone i will leave it at that. BTW. Get to bed Greg or you will be tired in the morning when you go to special school. Goodnight people. Peace.

Big PaddyThreads: 2 Posts: 47 Joined: Mar 30, 09	Aug 31, 09, 18:52 / #
I too am traveling to Polska for the game & today i received details of our fans security arrangements on match day, i have to applaud the Polski Police for their efforts to avoid any attacks on NI fans, they have put in place a very elaborate and well thought out plan that should ensure that our fans wont even get the chance to come into contact with home fans before during or after the game, a heavily protected secure area will be in operation for away fans and i am assured that large amounts of Polska's finest beer's will be made available for the Green & White Army, lol. The main danger (i believe) is to the handful of fans who may be staying in the surrounding area of Chorzow/Katowice in the days before or after the game. Random attacks away from match day are the biggest worry for away fans IMO. Hopefully though they will keep their heads down and everyone (both NI and Poles) will return home from the game safely. I am looking forward to my first visit to Poland and i am not at all scared or worried about anything bad happening, especially after reading about the major security operation that the police have planned. A friend of mine has recently met with the Polski Police and they are very much aware that the eyes of the football world are upon Poland for this game, this is why they have gone to such length's to ensure the safety of NI fans, if the police are true to their word everything will go just fine, i am sure of it. It wont be a pretty game (we will ensure that) and i predict a 1-1 result, Poland go ahead and we score late on for the draw, that said this Northern Ireland team is capable of anything, we are a young team who play without fear and will go all out for the victory. Roll on Saturday. Green & White Army !!! Green & White Army !!! Green & White Army !!!

PolanglikThreads: 40 Posts: 848 Joined: May 16, 07	Aug 31, 09, 19:08 / #
ShelleyS: I doubt very much there will be much trouble. We are all aware what happened at the match in Ireland .... and following the game it was widely reported that homes of Polish people were targeted in revenge attacks. Unfortunately Polish hooligans will feel they have to dish out some violence towards the NI supporters as a form of revenge; I would be very careful if I was going to that match wearing the NI colours. Albert: The NI fans who will attend the game will not be hooligans looking for a fight but are just wanting to support their country and enjoying some good nights out in Poland For the Polish hooligans ( I refrain from calling them football supporters!) this will make no difference .... Hopefully you will meet some genuine Polish football supporters to share a drink with.

Big PaddyThreads: 2 Posts: 47 Joined: Mar 30, 09	Aug 31, 09, 19:17 / #
Polanglik Hopefully you will meet some genuine Polish football supporters to share a drink with I have traveled all over the world with the NI supporters and everywhere we go we mix with the locals and have fun, we always get drunk but never start trouble, however due to security reasons it will be hard for us to hook up with genuine Polish fans this time around, it's just a shame some of the real Polish fans could not meet up with us before the game for a drinking competition, we would win that too i think. hehe

irishdeanoThreads: 11 Posts: 480 Joined: Oct 23, 07	Aug 31, 09, 19:41 / #
kibic: killed during the Korona match I remember some guy got hit with an AXE in the head There will be some trouble at the outside of this match an after in the towns i think. But just be cautious, I was in poland after the NI Match i was there when poland played san mar 3 days later in kielce and i didnt have any bother at all

FF Poland	Aug 31, 09, 20:28 / #
Belive me Polish hooligans will make everything to beat the NI supporters.NI have done big mistake when the local thugs attacked Polish houses in Belfast after the game in march.We remember this and we wanna teach you that no one can deal with us.We rules the hooligan world and nobody can stop us

PiorunThreads: - Posts: 741 Joined: Nov 11, 07	Aug 31, 09, 20:34 / #
Big Paddy: I too am traveling to Polska for the game & today i received details of our fans security arrangements on match day, i have to applaud the Polski Police for their efforts to avoid any attacks on NI fans, they have put in place a very elaborate and well thought out plan that should ensure that our fans wont even get the chance to come into contact with home fans before during or after the game, a heavily protected secure area will be in operation for away fans and i am assured that large amounts of Polska's finest beer's will be made available for the Green & White Army, lol. Why even bother then? Sounds like a trip on a prison bus, where's the fun in that? If I was you I would stay at home and enjoy the game with my mates at a local pub instead. All that, jut to get pissed drunk with your own mates anyway. Newsflash someone is making hack of a lot of money off of you. No doubt there will be some isolated incidents but don't you think that all that security makes you an even bigger target and prize for the nutters out there?

Big PaddyThreads: 2 Posts: 47 Joined: Mar 30, 09	Aug 31, 09, 21:48 / #
Piorun Why even bother then Because we are real football fans & we support our team wherever they play. Piorun if my people are able to survive 30 years at the hands of IRA death squads then i think we can live with a few Polish knuckle draggers who are a disgrace to their country & who are in the minority. don't you think that all that security makes you an even bigger target and prize for the nutters out there? Maybe, but the fact of the matter is that we will all be all together in a group of approx 1000 so if these basket cases want to try to attack us we are big enough to defend ourselves, hopefully it wont come to that but as i said before we have all been through much worse over the years. Newsflash someone is making hack of a lot of money off of you NEWSFLASH. No they are not , my trip including flights Bus, match ticket and hotel cost £175. Very reasonable i think. Enjoy the game mate.

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,647 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Edited by: SeanBM Aug 31, 09, 21:53 / #
Big Paddy: if my people are able to survive 30 years at the hands of IRA death squads I think it a bit strange for you to bring that in to it, it is after all a NI vrs PL match, or do you not agree? Big Paddy: my trip including flights Bus, match ticket and hotel cost £175. Very reasonable i think. That is a good price. Big Paddy: Enjoy the game mate. You too.

Big PaddyThreads: 2 Posts: 47 Joined: Mar 30, 09	Aug 31, 09, 22:00 / #
SeanBM I think it a bit strange for you to bring that in to it, it is after all a NI vrs PL match, or do you not agree?I am just trying to point out Sean that we as a people have endured much more worrying times of late than having to face down a handful of brain dead idiots who pose as fans in order to indulge their little ego trips. If this match was being played on the moon the Green & White Army would have a Presence at the game.

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,647 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Edited by: SeanBM Aug 31, 09, 22:03 / #
Big Paddy: I am just trying to point out Sean that we as a people have endured much more worrying times of late than having to face down a handful of brain dead idiots who pose as fans in order to indulge their little ego trips. The strange thing for me is that that is the only way you are able to express yourself, even though it has nothing to do with it. It would be as stupid as if I were to bring "We endured much more during the potato famines" into a snooker game, Ireland Vrs Poland.

irishdeanoThreads: 11 Posts: 480 Joined: Oct 23, 07	Edited by: irishdeano Aug 31, 09, 22:30 / #
Big Paddy: if my people are able to survive 30 years at the hands of IRA death squads I think this is a very sly remark This is like saying the people of ireland are able to survive 800 years of british death they can handle anything. To bring something up which is nothing to do with football, When Killings happened on both sides for years, and you compare it to football matchs, And you call yourself a football fan? Sorry but its no were near the same as a few riots over a football game Big Paddy: The famine was not about being faced against a people with threatening/hostile intent, it was about a people dying of starvation Yes because the british took all the other food, Check out some history

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,647 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Edited by: SeanBM Aug 31, 09, 22:40 / #
Big Paddy: So the famine is relevant to our recent history is it Sean ? I have already stated that i was referring to our recent history, (read back over my previous post mate). Bollox. Big Paddy: The famine was not about being faced against a people with threatening/hostile intent, it was about a people dying of starvation (and nothing to do with snooker) lol. And the IRA had nothing to do with Poland N.Ireland football and you know well. Big Paddy: The recent troubles on the the other hand do have relevency (in that we faced down a hostile enemy and emerged undefeated and still intact as a nation, our impending arrival in Poland also has deep hostility in the air. So while your analogy is totally wide of the mark i suggest mine is a hell of a lot closer to reality. You nutter. Polish hooligans attacked innocent people at a match, you are off your head. You make it sound like a battle, really you got to cop on to yourself. Big Paddy: And as i don't want a slanging match with anyone i will leave it at that. As you don't want to face the fact that slagging bigotry is all you are capable of, you will run off. Big Paddy: Peace. that is the first sensible thing you have said. We, Ireland, have peace, thank goodness. So when NI play PL, I hope there will be no problems and I hope you remember that it is us Irish, YES, you and I, are viewed as Irish here in Poland. So I hope we don't get too caught up in the horse shite you are displaying tonight.

RevokeNiceThreads: 21 Posts: 2,459 Joined: Jun 20, 09	Edited by: RevokeNice Aug 31, 09, 22:40 / #
Ah yes "Paddy" it was all the taigs fault. Sure, they wanted equal rights, we couldnt have that now, could we. If I was a Pole in NI I would be very wary after this game, due to the mentality there. If something does kick off, it wont be pretty. My prediction. A lucky one all draw. Northern Ireland to beat Slovenia at home and then draw in Prague to get to the playoffs.

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,900 Joined: May 17, 07	Aug 31, 09, 22:43 / #
I think polish are going to take revenge.And the police will let them.

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,647 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Edited by: SeanBM Aug 31, 09, 22:46 / #
southern: I think polish are going to take revenge.And the police will let them. Did you also pick this info on your one and only, short trip here to Poland? By the way, how long ago was that trip?

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,900 Joined: May 17, 07	Aug 31, 09, 22:54 / #
SeanBM: how long ago was that trip? Some weeks ago.I noticed that Poles show solidarity if there is a common cause.3 enemy hooligan groups to cooperate is very seldom,I cannot imagine it for any other country. The police can easily get into the trick as well even if Tusk will not be happy about that. It is not like russian police obeying blindly to directions from the center. I think NI fans should keep away.