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What can you tell me about Silesia Poland region?



polishmancanThreads: 9
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Joined: Jun 20, 06 		  Jul 12, 06, 15:47 /  #
Well, my father did tell me this weekend that my relatives come from the rural regional area of Silesia, Poland and Trembatschau, Poland, and Neudorf Poland. I have no idea where these places are or what is poignant about any of these cities but that is all I know for now.

What can you tell me (if anything) about these apparantly rural farming areas?

Apparantly Neudorf is now called Nowa Wies Poland?
polandpoland.com/nowa_wies.html

I googled Silesia and it is a legit region but found nothing for Trembatschau. Is it the same as Trzemeszno? Also, nothing for Neudori (these are all the ways my father spelled them).

I originally thought these 3 names were <b>cities</b> but alas they are still only geographic regions. I still don't know the cities that my relatives come from but I am getting closer! What do I do next?

I do not know the city they would have lived in but I think it would be Upper Siliesia because that is the part that speaks Polish (as opposed to Lower Silesia (German) and Upper used to be part of Prussia. I am guessing a city like Katowice but that is just a guess.
Guest   Jul 12, 06, 16:36 /  #
I don't know German but maybe Trembatschau means "Trzebnica" in Polish...?
glowaThreads: 1
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Joined: Apr 6, 06 		Edited by: glowa   Jul 13, 06, 03:40 /  #
Silesia is called in Polish Śląsk (perhaps this would help you google) and indeed Katowice is the capital of the region.
It is/was a coal mining region. Central-South of Poland more or less.
Now it's poor and has enormous unemployment rate, since the mines have been one by one closed.

Three years ago a friend, Erasmus student from Spain had a task to prepare a TV-document on Silesia. She went there for two weeks (i had to find a friend down there to help here with communication, because the language is a problem in such places) and prepared some material, which I later helped here translate again, back to English.

Well, the picture wasn't that bright. The area is ugly and poor (and used to be quite the opposite, except the ugly thing - that is reasoned by the constatnt presence of the gray dust in the air produced by the mines). Polution is sky-high. The ex-miners are frustrated and angry. The docment ended up to be quite sad a story.


Silesia speaks Polish - that area once in the history was conquered by the Prussians, therefore there's a lot of German influence in the way people speak. That applies to the whole not only Lower Silesia. But they do speak Polish.
Tom_Poland   Jul 13, 06, 04:45 /  #
Hi! I live in center part of Silesia - near Opole and many friends of mine are silesians. They have I would say 'double' nationality - Polish and German, and most of them know German quite well - in some cases it's even their first language, for they use it in every-day communication with other members of their families.

I've just come across that the name of a place you mentioned, namely - Trębaczów - it's a small village situated near the city of Breslau (Wroclaw). About 840 inhabitants live in Trebaczow. As far as Neudorf, or Nowa wies is concerned.. here the situation is a bit more complex, because it is very popular name for a village here - something like a surname 'Smith' in the UK. There are about 170 such places in Poland, and a lot of them are within the Silesian region.

Hope I could help you a little.
lili   Jul 13, 06, 13:26 /  #
"Trebacze" are musicians or member's of a music band I thought.
polishmancanThreads: 9
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Joined: Jun 20, 06 		  Jul 13, 06, 17:21 /  #
What else can you tell me about these three cities? try and bore me! The only wikipedia I can find on Śląsk is in Polish and thus I cannot read it. Can someone translate it or does wikipedia offer an English translation?

(I live in the U.S. by the way)
ocet   Jul 14, 06, 08:35 /  #
I used to live in Lower Silesia (near Walbrzych). But it's not the same as "Silesia", isn't it? I think Lower Silesia (especially the regions of Jelenia Gora and Zielona Gora - even though I'm not sure if they should be regarded as the regions of Lower Silesia) are one of the nices places in Poland.
Wujek_Dobra_Rada Edited by: Wujek_Dobra_Rada   Jul 14, 06, 08:38 /  #
Quoting: Tom_Poland, Post #4
About 840 inhabitants live in Trebaczow.

Quoting: lili, Post #5
What else can you tell me about these three cities?


It is a village not a city.

And when it comes to Wroclaw, then that city isn`t also really German (though many Germans are going to tell that). The original name of the city is Vratislavia. It has been founded by the Czechs. between:

915-990 it belonged to the Czechs
990-1335 it belonged to Poland,
1335-1469 it belonged to the Czechs,
1469-1490 it belonged to Hungary,
1490-1741 it belonged to the Czechs,
1741-1945 it beloned to the Germans,
and now, since 1945 it belongs to us.

It`s a really great city - the old town as well as the Japanese gardens there are great - today the city is one of the main high-technology centers in Poland
hihaut   Nov 29, 09, 18:58 /  #
I learned that my family, Zmyslowski, lived in Northern Silesia and owned an estate named Ciecerain, near neudorf in County Kreuzburg.

Have you any knowledge of any of these places
SeanusThreads: 22
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 		  Nov 30, 09, 02:03 /  #
German is spoken is Upper Silesia too. It just depends on your heritage but many speak it here.
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