Job Opportunity for Non Polish speakers in Warsaw

Jay24:

Hi All. Not been around for a while but thought I'd drop a note to see if the forum can help me with something. My company are looking for an HR/Recruitment consultant to work in Warsaw. There is no job requirement for the successful applicant to be able to speak Polish. Although the role is based in Warsaw, the role will solely be dealing with a client within the UK market - hence Polish is not required. If you have previous HR and/or Recruitment experience and are interested then feel free to PM me for more details.

Jay24Threads: 21 Posts: 110 Joined: Apr 27, 09	Dec 17, 09, 10:38 / #
Hi All. Not been around for a while but thought I'd drop a note to see if the forum can help me with something. My company are looking for an HR/Recruitment consultant to work in Warsaw. There is no job requirement for the successful applicant to be able to speak Polish. Although the role is based in Warsaw, the role will solely be dealing with a client within the UK market - hence Polish is not required. If you have previous HR and/or Recruitment experience and are interested then feel free to PM me for more details.

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,967 Joined: Nov 10, 06	Dec 17, 09, 12:28 / #
Jay24: Hi All. Not been around for a while but thought I'd drop a note to see if the forum can help me with something. My company are looking for an HR/Recruitment consultant to work in Warsaw. There is no job requirement for the successful applicant to be able to speak Polish. Although the role is based in Warsaw, the role will solely be dealing with a client within the UK market - hence Polish is not required. If you have previous HR and/or Recruitment experience and are interested then feel free to PM me for more details. You know what, I get very peeved about these kind of posts: ALL JOBS IN THE UK MUST BE ADVERTISED WITHIN THE UK! FFS THERE IS A RECESSION ON, DONT WE HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE ALREADY IN THE PHUCKING COUNTRY WITHOUT RECRUITING MORE!!

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,306 Joined: Apr 21, 08	Dec 17, 09, 12:30 / #
Jay24: in Warsaw Amathyst: ALL JOBS IN THE UK It's in Warsaw not Walsall.

Jay24Threads: 21 Posts: 110 Joined: Apr 27, 09	Dec 17, 09, 13:12 / #
Amathyst: ALL JOBS IN THE UK MUST BE ADVERTISED WITHIN THE UK! FFS THERE IS A RECESSION ON, DONT WE HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE ALREADY IN THE PHUCKING COUNTRY WITHOUT RECRUITING MORE!! Just to be clear, the location of this job is Warsaw, Poland and the successful candidate will be employed on a Polish contract not a UK one.

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,967 Joined: Nov 10, 06	Edited by: Amathyst Dec 17, 09, 13:16 / #
Jay24: Just to be clear, the location of this job is Warsaw, Poland and the successful candidate will be employed on a Polish contract not a UK one. Its a recruitment consultant based in Warsaw, working with UK based companies. dagenhamdave: Did you actually read the post? It's based in Warsaw. Honestly, what a c0ck. Yes I read the phucking post you tit. He is looking for a recruitment consultant to work in Poland who will be dealing with companies in the UK, why the phuck do you think that is? Jay24: My company are looking for an HR/Recruitment consultant to work in Warsaw. Jay24: the role will solely be dealing with a client within the UK market I couldnt give a flying phuck about the person going to work in Poland, thats one person, its the reason that he is looking for a recruitment consultant! Jay24: Just to be clear, the location of this job is Warsaw, Poland and the successful candidate will be employed on a Polish contract not a UK one. How about the Poles that you are recruiting in Warsaw for your UK based market? Are they going to be on Polish contracts? Amathyst: DONT WE HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE ALREADY IN THE PHUCKING COUNTRY WITHOUT RECRUITING MORE!!

Jay24Threads: 21 Posts: 110 Joined: Apr 27, 09	Dec 17, 09, 13:58 / #
Amathyst: I couldnt give a flying phuck about the person going to work in Poland In that case why bother yourself with this post. Go into any high street agency in the UK and you will often find they advertise for German, French, Spanish etc, etc speakers for a whole multitude of jobs. This is the same principle.

delphiandomineThreads: 42 Posts: 9,954 Joined: Nov 25, 08 [Suspended]	Dec 17, 09, 14:05 / #
Jay24: In that case why bother yourself with this post. Because he's clearly another Brit that BLAMES THE EVIL POLISH FOR TAKING HIS JOB when...well...he wouldn't take the job anyway.

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,967 Joined: Nov 10, 06	Edited by: Amathyst Dec 17, 09, 14:05 / #
Jay24: Go into any high street agency in the UK and you will often find they advertise for German, French, Spanish etc, etc speakers for a whole multitude of jobs. This is the same principle. Thats the point you are missing, they are advertising in the UK for people who are actually living here, not importing more people...there are lots of Polish speaking people in the UK already, why are you setting up a recruitment agency in Poland to recruit people? Jay24: In that case why bother yourself with this post. Because what you are doing is illegal. delphiandomine: Because he's clearly another Brit that BLAMES THE EVIL POLISH FOR TAKING HIS JOB when...well...he wouldn't take the job anyway. Evidently thats what is happening, by the way, they are recruiting for a HR specialist, I hardly think thats a job that people dont want to do. Im a SHE, not a HE.

jonniThreads: 26 Posts: 4,181 Joined: Nov 27, 07	Edited by: jonni Dec 17, 09, 14:10 / #
Exactly. And if 'native' British people got off their lazy asses, turned off the Jeremy Kyle show, or X factor or whatever else the great unwashed watch on their ever-present television sets, stopped stuffing theirpsty faces with oven 'chips' and frozen 'dinners', stepped out of their subsidised public housing, stopped signing on for god knows how much in benefits (paid for by the taxes of working people including Poles), stopped breeding like yeast while they're still kids themselves and letting their kids finish school without saleable skills, learned an honest trade and looked for a job, employers wouldn't have to go as far as Poland to find decent skilled staff. If chavs want to waste the opportunities they have been given in one of the richest countries the world has ever known, there are plenty of other people, often from PL, who are not so stupid, venal and lazy...

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,967 Joined: Nov 10, 06	Edited by: Amathyst Dec 17, 09, 14:19 / #
Harry: No it is not. Moron. I think you will find that all jobs must be advertised in the UK. If they are setting up shop in Poland and employing Poles to come and work in the UK, they are not doing this, they are in effect steeling jobs, they are not giving a person living in this country the opportunity, there are plenty of educated Poles here, why go to Poland to find someone. jonni: And if 'native' British people got off their lazy asses Standard response. Where did I write Brits? Have you seen what his recruitment consultant is specialised in - HR - hardly the kind of person who is sat on their arse..

dagenhamdave	Dec 17, 09, 14:50 / #
Show me the law which state that a UK job must be advertised in the UK. Please refer to the text of that law. Can you? No, you can't, because there isn't one. You're typical of the lazy, unskilled, incompetent bunch of unemployables that Labour's Britain has produced, and the reason you have a bee in your bonnet is because you feel threatened. Stuff you, and stuff your placky BNP mates.

RossliThreads: - Posts: 1 Joined: Dec 17, 09	Dec 17, 09, 14:57 / #
I would be Interest in making the move to Warsaw. Can you PM me an email address? Don

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,967 Joined: Nov 10, 06	Edited by: Amathyst Dec 17, 09, 15:15 / #
dagenhamdave: You're typical of the lazy, unskilled, incompetent bunch of unemployables that Labour's Britain has produced, and the reason you have a bee in your bonnet is because you feel threatened. Were you dropped on your head? Did you read the bit where I said "there must be lots of educated Polish people living in the UK that could do the job" dagenhamdave: Show me the law which state that a UK job must be advertised in the UK. Please refer to the text of that law. Can you? No, you can't, because there isn't one. You really are a retard. [i]All vacancies advertised on or after 14 December 2009 must be advertised to settled workers for 28 calendar days:i] http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/employers/points/sponsoringmigrants/e mployingmigrants/residentlabourmarkettest/#header1 jonni: Where job vacancies languish unfilled for months. I very much doubt HR vacancies "languish" unfilled for months, in fact this a myth created by people like you. jonni: Ahem, we're in the EU. It can be done anywhere. Ahem...You are wrong. dagenhamdave: Stuff you, and stuff your placky BNP mates. LOL another standard response.

anish_gdanskThreads: 1 Posts: 2 Joined: Dec 17, 09	Dec 17, 09, 16:22 / #
Hey Jay, I could be interested in this opportunity. I have considerable HR and recruitment experience with previous consultants outside Poland... and could consider making a move from Gdansk to Warsaw. Kindly PM me your email address. ( The forum requires I make 3 useful posts, to send you a PM :D )

aphrodisiacThreads: 22 Posts: 3,998 Joined: Apr 15, 09	Edited by: aphrodisiac Dec 17, 09, 14:23 / #
Jay24: Although the role is based in Warsaw, the role will solely be dealing with a client within the UK market - hence Polish is not required. so what you are saying is: you want a non-Polish speaker to have a contract in Warsaw, but deal with clients on the UK market? Where is the post located? In the UK or in W-wa?

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,967 Joined: Nov 10, 06	Edited by: Amathyst Dec 17, 09, 14:42 / #
aphrodisiac: so what you are saying is: you want a non-Polish speaker to have a contract in Warsaw, but deal with clients on the UK market? Where is the post located? In the UK or in W-wa? What he is saying, he wants to set up a recruitment office in Warsaw to employ Polish people to work in HR in UK based companies. jonni: Recruitment consultants are part of the HR industry Recruitment consultans work for private companies who supply labour for companies, recruitment for HR professionals or administrators is usually done in the UK and should be done in the UK. jonni: I think you've missed the point as usual. What point did I miss? The point where he is bringing more labour in to a country that is shedding workers daily? jonni: recruiting to the UK. I think you proved the point I was making, dont you? By the way will the HR people you are employing have their IPD?

aphrodisiacThreads: 22 Posts: 3,998 Joined: Apr 15, 09	Dec 17, 09, 14:53 / #
Amathyst: What he is saying, he wants to set up a recruitment office in Warsaw to employ Polish people to work in HR in UK based companies. is this true Jay24?????

jonniThreads: 26 Posts: 4,181 Joined: Nov 27, 07	Edited by: jonni Dec 17, 09, 14:54 / #
Amathyst: and should be done in the UK. Ahem, we're in the EU. It can be done anywhere. As we speak I'm doing some work for a Spanish company without setting foot there. I doubt their staff know which country I'm in. Amathyst: The point where he is bringing more labour in to a country that is shedding workers daily? Where job vacancies languish unfilled for months.

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,967 Joined: Nov 10, 06	Edited by: Amathyst Dec 17, 09, 17:42 / #
Jay24: Jay24 You still dont get it do you. I couldnt care less about the person being employed in Poland, Id just like to know why you are running an employment agency in Poland who are recruiting for companies in the UK. Its fecked up! Strawberry pickers is one thing, but professional jobs! pff! dagenhamdave: Well excuse me for not being up-to-date with a law that came into effect 3 days ago. Doesn't stop you being a sad, lazy, plastic nazi with no mates, does it. If you read the news you might have heard about it. You are really stupid, honestly, change the record dickforbrains, I have Polish friends, I have a friend who is studying HR, but what chance has she got if some tit keeps bringing in cheap labour.

Jay24Threads: 21 Posts: 110 Joined: Apr 27, 09	Dec 17, 09, 18:33 / #
Amathyst: You still dont get it do you (Sighs)! I'm sorry but I think it is you who doesn't get it. You've posted utter rubbish on this thread so far (in amongst your various rants and profanities). Amathyst: Id just like to know why you are running an employment agency in Poland who are recruiting for companies in the UK You clearly have no idea how modern business works - this is called offshoring and the practice has been around for years now. Modern technology means that it is now possible for people to work remotely from anywhere in the world. Cost is quite obviously a factor in companies offshoring, but anyone who isn't already aware of this must have been living on the Moon for the last 5 years. Quite simply, employing resource in Poland is a cheaper option than employing in the UK and like most organisations in the current climate, we are are trying to best manage our expenditure right now. So back to the point of the thread, anyone who is interested - please feel free to get in touch.

kcanupThreads: - Posts: 1 Joined: Dec 17, 09	Dec 17, 09, 18:53 / #
what is minimum wages of workers in Poland?

jonniThreads: 26 Posts: 4,181 Joined: Nov 27, 07	Dec 17, 09, 18:56 / #
Jay24: (Sighs)! I'm sorry but I think it is you who doesn't get it. You've posted utter rubbish on this thread so far (in amongst your various rants and profanities). Don't worry. She's a BNP supporter. They tend not to get it. Amathyst: I very much doubt HR vacancies "languish" unfilled for months, in fact this a myth created by people like you. They are not 'HR vacancies'. How many times do people have to explain this to you. AmethystS: Ahem, we're in the EU. It can be done anywhere. Ahem...You are wrong. I'm doing it now.

delphiandomineThreads: 42 Posts: 9,954 Joined: Nov 25, 08 [Suspended]	Edited by: delphiandomine Dec 17, 09, 20:21 / #
Amathyst: You really are a retard. [i]All vacancies advertised on or after 14 December 2009 must be advertised to settled workers for 28 calendar days:i] http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/employers/points/sponsoringmigrants/e mployingmigrants/residentlabourmarkettest/#header1 Actually - that link has nothing to do with employing Polish workers. It's to do with applying for a work permit for non-EU workers, the laws of which are harmonised across Europe. So - try again, can you quote the law which states that a UK job must be advertised in the UK? (Ah, BNP supporters, the type which tend to be on benefits while ranting about 'bloody immigrants taking all the jobs' - forgetting that they were on benefits well before 2004)

SteveramsfanThreads: 2 Posts: 401 Joined: Nov 22, 09	Dec 17, 09, 20:41 / #
Amathyst: http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/employers/points/sponsoringmigr ants/e mployingmigrants/residentlabourmarkettest/#header1 The job can be advertised in any country in Europe or the world aswell as the UK. You just can't employ anybody from outside UK until 28 days have passed. How do you know this is not the case? If you are BNP you are scum.

steveplThreads: 2 Posts: 54 Joined: Dec 8, 09	Dec 17, 09, 23:02 / #
Steveramsfan: You just can't employ anybody from outside UK until 28 days have passed. How do you know this is not the case? Try reading everything on the page dingbat The pool of workers who qualify as resident workers. A resident worker is a person who is a national of the European Economic Area (EEA) or is legally settled in the United Kingdom with permission to work here. You can't empoy anyone outside the EEA until 28 days have passed. I know this is the case because I can read and understand what I've read. This is obviously a move to protect european jobs for all the european workers who are entitled to apply for them first.

delphiandomineThreads: 42 Posts: 9,954 Joined: Nov 25, 08 [Suspended]	Dec 17, 09, 23:04 / #
stevepl: This is obviously a move to protect european jobs for all the european workers who are entitled to apply for them first. It's not so much to protect European workers, as opposed to providing a fair and honest scheme in so far as providing work permits go. It's sensible that work permits should only be issued where an employer cannot fill the vacancy from within the EEA/CH zone - though in practice, it's quite easy to obtain such permits for professional jobs.

steveplThreads: 2 Posts: 54 Joined: Dec 8, 09	Dec 17, 09, 23:09 / #
I know, I'm just trying to wind up the nationalists. European seems to be a dirty word in the UK at the moment.