Relocating to Krakow, Poland from England. How easy to find a job?

tinhead wrote:

The sad truth is that Poland is a very hard country to live in. It's great for a holiday but please think very carefully about moving here. As a foreigner here you will only be able to teach English, this is great for students on their 'year out' who want to get laid or pervy retired gents who want to get laid! There is absolutely no chance of getting any kind of simple job such as working in shops, pubs - ex-pat pubs included even if you have a good knowledge of the Polish language (which I have) and once you are here English companies won't interview you as they prefer to send their own people from home. Add to this the day to day 'traumas' one has to deal with and you really have to ask yourself is it worth it? I can't wait to sell my apartment here and get the hell away ASAP!

Dieter KollnbeThreads: 1 Posts: 5 Joined: Mar 25, 07	Jan 7, 08, 09:03 / #
Hi there looking at moving to Krakow at end of Summer 2008. I would like to hera from English people who have relocated to Poland. How easy is it to find work. There seems to be a lot of English companies looking for people to work in Poland.

CaleyJagsThreads: 1 Posts: 48 Joined: Jan 23, 07	Jan 7, 08, 09:09 / #
Dieter Kollnbe wrote: I would like to hera from English people who have relocated to Poland. Us Scots have also moved to Poland but i guess you only want to speak with English people. You wouldn't understand us anyway!!

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 [Suspended]	Jan 7, 08, 09:47 / #
CaleyJags wrote: You wouldn't understand us anyway!! What?

CaleyJagsThreads: 1 Posts: 48 Joined: Jan 23, 07	Jan 7, 08, 10:53 / #
Harry wrote: What? Exactly :)

Dieter KollnbeThreads: 1 Posts: 5 Joined: Mar 25, 07	Jan 7, 08, 16:28 / #
sorry I stand corrected and the article should have read anyone from the united kingdom still interested on your views

CaleyJagsThreads: 1 Posts: 48 Joined: Jan 23, 07	Jan 8, 08, 02:38 / #
Dieter Kollnbe wrote: sorry I stand corrected and the article should have read anyone from the united kingdom still interested on your views Thats more like it my friend :)

starfish	Jan 8, 08, 03:24 / #
CaleyJags wrote: Thats more like it my friend :) Sorry,what did you say?

tinhead	Jan 8, 08, 08:03 / #
The sad truth is that Poland is a very hard country to live in. It's great for a holiday but please think very carefully about moving here. As a foreigner here you will only be able to teach English, this is great for students on their 'year out' who want to get laid or pervy retired gents who want to get laid! There is absolutely no chance of getting any kind of simple job such as working in shops, pubs - ex-pat pubs included even if you have a good knowledge of the Polish language (which I have) and once you are here English companies won't interview you as they prefer to send their own people from home. Add to this the day to day 'traumas' one has to deal with and you really have to ask yourself is it worth it? I can't wait to sell my apartment here and get the hell away ASAP!

zionThreads: 20 Posts: 180 Joined: Dec 21, 07	Jan 8, 08, 08:14 / #
tinhead wrote: The sad truth is that Poland is a very hard country to live in. It's great for a holiday but please think very carefully about moving here. As a foreigner here you will only be able to teach English, this is great for students on their 'year out' who want to get laid or pervy retired gents who want to get laid! There is absolutely no chance of getting any kind of simple job such as working in shops, pubs - ex-pat pubs included even if you have a good knowledge of the Polish language (which I have) and once you are here English companies won't interview you as they prefer to send their own people from home. Add to this the day to day 'traumas' one has to deal with and you really have to ask yourself is it worth it? I can't wait to sell my apartment here and get the hell away ASAP! true true true

RyszardThreads: - Posts: 123 Joined: Aug 7, 07	Jan 8, 08, 08:18 / #
tinhead wrote: There is absolutely no chance of getting any kind of simple job such as working in shops, pubs - ex-pat pubs included even if you have a good knowledge of the Polish language (which I have) Really? Sounds strange. If you do have good knowledge of Polish, then you shouldn't have any problem to get such "simple" job.... the question is if you can live by its salary.

tinhead	Jan 8, 08, 11:09 / #
Ryszard wrote: If you do have good knowledge of Polish, then you shouldn't have any problem to get such "simple" job.... Unfortunately the minute I open my mouth prospective employers say "Where are you from? You're not from here?" and quite regularily I was told "Don't you know there are thousands of young Polish people who are unemployed". Imagine that being reversed in the UK... "Where you from? Poland! Don't you know there are thousands of unemployed Brits" Has that happened to anyone who posts on the forum? I really would be curious to know CaleyJags wrote: I was moved to Warsaw by my company My point exactly! I'm sure when your company sent you here you immediately gained access to folk in similar positions hence making it fairly easy for you to move to another job. I suspect the key to you finding another job is that you were originally sent here on a contract from a UK company. Think it may well have been a different story if you just came here 'unannounced'. Then again as Bob Dylan says...Ah might be wrong about that! :>)

CaleyJagsThreads: 1 Posts: 48 Joined: Jan 23, 07	Jan 9, 08, 03:15 / #
tinhead wrote: My point exactly! I'm sure when your company sent you here you immediately gained access to folk in similar positions hence making it fairly easy for you to move to another job. I suspect the key to you finding another job is that you were originally sent here on a contract from a UK company. Think it may well have been a different story if you just came here 'unannounced'. Then again as Bob Dylan says...Ah might be wrong about that! :>) I understand what you are saying Tinhead, i did meet a few people in Warsaw but with regards to my current job i didn't know anyone and i no advantage. I agree that it is hard if you don't speak Polish but it can be done if you have the right qualifications and experience.

Angry DuckThreads: - Posts: 29 Joined: May 9, 07	Jan 9, 08, 05:56 / #
zion wrote: we need any other European lingo Serbian-Croatian maybe? It's serious question :)

Angry DuckThreads: - Posts: 29 Joined: May 9, 07	Jan 9, 08, 06:01 / #
No, I'm abroad Poland but moving to Krakow very soon (in a few weeks), though I don't have any experience in IT -except I'm linux user, what means little above average MS person :)

zionThreads: 20 Posts: 180 Joined: Dec 21, 07	Jan 8, 08, 08:20 / #
Ryszard wrote: the question is if you can live by its salary true also

CaleyJagsThreads: 1 Posts: 48 Joined: Jan 23, 07	Jan 8, 08, 09:59 / #
tinhead wrote: The sad truth is that Poland is a very hard country to live in. It's great for a holiday but please think very carefully about moving here. As a foreigner here you will only be able to teach English, this is great for students on their 'year out' who want to get laid or pervy retired gents who want to get laid! There is absolutely no chance of getting any kind of simple job such as working in shops, pubs - ex-pat pubs included even if you have a good knowledge of the Polish language (which I have) and once you are here English companies won't interview you as they prefer to send their own people from home. Add to this the day to day 'traumas' one has to deal with and you really have to ask yourself is it worth it? I can't wait to sell my apartment here and get the hell away ASAP! You seem unhappy with Life in Poland and i'm sorry that it's not turned out very well for you. I was moved to Warsaw by my company and when my contract ended i had the option of staying in my job and moving to another country or stay and try and find a new one....i chose the latter. It is possible to find a good job in the city if you have a degree and good experience, my Polish is terrible and it didn't stop me from finding a job in Warsaw. Have some faith it can be done.

zionThreads: 20 Posts: 180 Joined: Dec 21, 07	Edited by: zion Jan 9, 08, 03:18 / #
tinhead what languages can you speak? I may be able to hook you up with a job where I work ...

tinhead	Jan 9, 08, 05:38 / #
zion wrote: I may be able to hook you up with a job where I work ... Zion, Thanks for the offer I'm a native English speaker and speak fluent Polish. What kind of line of work are you in?

zionThreads: 20 Posts: 180 Joined: Dec 21, 07	Jan 9, 08, 05:54 / #
IT mate but English is the working Language POlish is of no need we need any other European lingo tough

zionThreads: 20 Posts: 180 Joined: Dec 21, 07	Jan 9, 08, 05:58 / #
I can ask for you but first I need to know are you in Warsaw ? if not is no good

zionThreads: 20 Posts: 180 Joined: Dec 21, 07	Edited by: zion Jan 9, 08, 06:07 / #
IT skills is not a must we can teach you that on basis that you will use . Krakow is no good we are in Warsaw so you must live here . Are you an EU passport holder ? do speak those lingo as mother tongue level are you native ? where are you from ?

Angry DuckThreads: - Posts: 29 Joined: May 9, 07	Edited by: Angry Duck Jan 9, 08, 06:10 / #
Native Croatian. So, hold no EU pass but can obtain visas in Poland w/o prob (have a kid there). But Warsaw is out of my interest (private reason). Thanks anyway

zionThreads: 20 Posts: 180 Joined: Dec 21, 07	Jan 9, 08, 06:13 / #
Yes you can get a visa but will take few months until you have a work permit residence card that entitle you to work . after this process what will take a while only then you can work! so drop me a line when you have a residence permit

Angry DuckThreads: - Posts: 29 Joined: May 9, 07	Jan 9, 08, 06:15 / #
zion wrote: so drop me a line when you have a residence permit But I can't move from Krakow because of kid.

zionThreads: 20 Posts: 180 Joined: Dec 21, 07	Edited by: zion Jan 9, 08, 06:16 / #
sorry mate the job is in warsaw

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 [Suspended]	Jan 9, 08, 06:18 / #
zion wrote: Yes you can get a visa but will take few months until you have a work permit residence card that entitle you to work . after this process what will take a while only then you can work! so drop me a line when you have a residence permit More rubbish. The procedure is this: employer posts a job offer for Poles/other EU citizens (taking care to make the offer so specific that nobody but you meets the criteria to apply), employer doesn't get any applicants, employer gets permission to offer the job to a non-EU national (i.e the promise of a work permit for that person), non-EU national goes to the Polish embassy in his country with this permission document and gets a visa which gives the possibility of working, that visa is shown to the authorities in Poland and the non-EU national gets his work permit. After one year the non-EU national applies for his residency permit.

Angry DuckThreads: - Posts: 29 Joined: May 9, 07	Edited by: Angry Duck Jan 9, 08, 06:22 / #
zion wrote: Thanks anyway. Harry wrote: non-EU national Dude, I have a kid in Poland and can obtain visa without problem.

zionThreads: 20 Posts: 180 Joined: Dec 21, 07	Jan 9, 08, 06:23 / #
and all that take hell lot of long time what you know you were a teacher loser

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 [Suspended]	Edited by: Harry Jan 9, 08, 06:31 / #
Angry Duck wrote: Dude, I have a kid in Poland and can obtain visa without problem. Yes but you still need to get a work permit. zion wrote: and all that take hell lot of long time Actually it takes in the region of 8 weeks. But the authorities here are generally willing to let people work without a work permit as long as that person has actually applied for a work permit and is getting that work permit processed. zion wrote: what you know you were a teacher loser So teachers know nothing? Guess that's why you failed so miserably at school. Being a teacher I've applied for more than a few work permits and residency permits so I have personal experience in what I'm talking about. I've also got a fairly solid grounding in Polish legal requirements, which is why I've recently charged an Israeli company PLN 918 (EUR 255) for writing a memo about living and working legally in Poland. So I suggest you get a clue and stop being such a twat.