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Armenian Genocide 1915-1917 and Poland


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hunfriend
  Nov 14, 07, 07:15  #1

Christopher Jon Bjerknes says, ARMENIAN CHRISTIANS were massacred by Crypto Jews in 1915-1917 during the Young Turkish Government. Crypto Jews infiltrated into Turkish government, and planned, financed, and completed this genocide. The reason is to lure Brittain to the region to save Christians, Brittain liberated Palestine from Turkish occupation. Later Brittain gave this Land to the Zionist Jews. Now it is Izrael.

How is this affects Poland? I give you one aspects worth to consider. Armenian Genocide happened in Turkey in WWI. Who committed that genocide. You would say Turkish people committed. But not Turkish people committed that, a group of people committed who pretended to be Turks and Muslems. But that could also happend to Russian governments, and other governments also, and can happens at the moment. A group of people infiltrated in the government creating a chaos, slaughter,....

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hunfriend
  Nov 14, 07, 07:28  #2

Try to understand the their technics!

http://www.erichufschmid.net/Hufschmid-23Oct2007.html

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Grzegorz_
  Nov 14, 07, 08:16  #3

Quoting: hunfriend
ARMENIAN CHRISTIANS were massacred by Crypto Jews


So Turks are... Crypto Jews... ?


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z_darius
  Nov 14, 07, 09:54  #4

Quoting: hunfriend
How is this affects Poland? I give you one aspects worth to consider. Armenian Genocide happened in Turkey in WWI. Who committed that genocide. You would say Turkish people committed. But not Turkish people committed that, a group of people committed who pretended to be Turks and Muslems. But that could also happend to Russian governments, and other governments also, and can happens at the moment. A group of people infiltrated in the government creating a chaos, slaughter,....

I'm have some background in psychology, albeit not clinical, so I won't be able to help you.


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plk123
  Nov 14, 07, 10:45  #5

Quoting: Grzegorz_
So Turks are... Crypto Jews... ?

i'm sure they are all one.. the shrubco. ;) :D


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isthatu
  Nov 15, 07, 08:25  #6

ha bloomin ha ha,what have you been smoking? Is LSD part of your daily diet dude?
BTW.armenian genocide happened,oddly enough,in Armenia,or the ottoman empire......."Turkey" didnt exist as such back then....


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Crow
Edited by: Crow  Nov 16, 07, 04:36  #7

With all due respect on Armenians, who deserve thread dedicated to them


I can offer you thread...

Croatian genocide on Serbs 1941-1945, 1991-1995 and Poland


What you think that Admin would do with that thread? Admin who is very nice and tolerant with me, would on the end, no matter his internal beauty and tolerance, put that thread on he margin of this forum.

So, should i start such a thread or not?


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Crow
Edited by: Crow  Nov 16, 07, 04:43  #8

Quoting: Grzegorz_


Quoting: hunfriend
ARMENIAN CHRISTIANS were massacred by Crypto Jews


So Turks are... Crypto Jews... ?

you would maybe be surprise but, in some circles of Serbian inteligentsia, Germans are seen as Turks in disguise

its even more surprising how Germans, Turks, Arabs and Jews cooperate (their inteligentsia, magnates and states) on Balkan and push Slavs far from warm sees and key trade routes. Oh, yes, yes... they absolutely agree that territories of Slavic world should be split among them and Slavs assimilated

... and its absolutely abominable that Poland as state helping them, hire. Well, its maybe just politics. Let`s hope that Serbs and whole Slavic world, could endure those political schemes.


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hunfriend
  Nov 16, 07, 05:13  #9

Do whatever you want, if you have something to say. I am sorry if you can not see the analogy. Poland has Katyn, Armenians has this genocide. Polish are told, Russians committed Katyn. Armenians are told, Turkish has committed the genocide. But that is not TRUE. Armenians were killed by Turkish Crypto Jews, and Polish were killed by Russian Crypto Jews. Can you see the point?

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isthatu
  Nov 17, 07, 12:48  #10

Yes, your a muppet that maybe banged hi head while watching fiddler on the roof oneday in your childhood....thats the point I see hun


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joepilsudski
Edited by: joepilsudski  Nov 17, 07, 14:10  #11

One of the reasons that the Armenian genocide has not officially been recognized in America is because of the power of the Jewish Lobby...they have steadfastly opposed any recognition of this, because 1) of Jewish/Donmeh involvement in it..2) this would open the door to exposure of the myth of Jewish 'special victimhood' during the bloodbath of the 20th Century, and expose the crimes committed by Jewish Bolsheviks in Russia, Poland, Ukraine & Hungary, among other places...another truth the Jews fear is the exposure of Jewish involvement in Nazism, with Eichmann, Heydrich, Hitler & many others being of partial or complete Jewish ancestry, along with the involvement of the
Jewish 'Illuminati' banking families such as Rothschild, Warburg & Oppenheimers.

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isthatu
  Nov 17, 07, 16:43  #12

No, the reason the Armenian Genocide has been "covered up" in the states is because you quite like having nuclear missiles and airbases in Turkey and the option to invade more parts of the middle east from the conveniance of the medeteranian. Period. nothing more,nothing less,for once,the Isreali lobby(representing the only democracy in the region,whats wrong,your proud to support despot dictators but not a democracy,thats not the USA I was brought up to belive existed) in the US has nothing to do with this middle eastern policy.


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WAKEUPPOLAND
  Nov 17, 07, 17:37  #13

Quoting: joepilsudski
another truth the Jews fear is the exposure of Jewish involvement in Nazism, with Eichmann, Heydrich, Hitler


Does anyone here know whether its a coincidence that the word "NAZI" is the end of the word "AshkeNAZI" ? OR is there a connection ?

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isthatu
  Nov 17, 07, 17:53  #14

after three " Spring time for hitler and germany,winter for poland and france, goose steps the new step.........
Do you also do a minstrel show Erwache? Maybe run a circus freak show or wear flared tousers? You really are lost in the 21st century arnt you love, is it all getting to complicated for you, or do you genuinly have no clue how to spell ashkenaszhim see Naszh.. sounds like germnan for nose,must be a conspiricy........Do you have a local psychiatric unit you could maybe check yourself into for the week....oh,woops, seeing as psychiatry as we know it was predominantly developed by jewish people you will probably think its a conspiricy to brainwash us all...trouble is,a basic rule of brainwashing is that you need first a brain to wash....


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isisores
  Nov 18, 07, 16:27  #15

i know most of you will not agree but this "genocide" never happened. firstly in world war I armenians made agreement with russians and hit ottoman empire from back. they attacked turkish villages and killed many villager civils. then turks attacked armenians but this was absolutely not for genocide, only for revenge, it was under war conditions and not under control of "weak" ottoman administration control. after all, ottomans wanted to prevent this fight and decided to move armenians from dangerous war places to safer regions. only imagine, it's still going a war and early 1900s, thousand of people are moving to other places. if they were even going there to make picnic many of them would die on the way cause of sickness etc. plus some of them were attacked by kurdish gangs. also imagine, why would ottomans want to kill all armenians? there's no reason. they wanted to save their lifes and stop fight between turks and armenians. at that time turkey was attacked by england, france, russia, italy, greeks, arabs, even anzacs from australia... last thing turkey would do was armenian genocide at that time. today turkey is ready to open historical archieves to public but not armenians, why? cause they know that well too their lies will be obvious. if you make research now in that places you'll find bones of turks killed by armenians, and armenians claim these bones are theirselves. they just claim cause researches show they are turkish bones. but why armenia want world to agree tihs? simple, they want some cities of turkey and genocide compensation from us. they are such a little poor country. their only hope is to make this "never happened genocide" agreed by the world. if there was a genocide there, it was against we turks.


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Crow
Edited by: Crow  Nov 18, 07, 16:46  #16

Quoting: isisores
if there was a genocide there,

There is no IF. Genocide on Armenians happened.

Quoting: isisores
it was against we turks.

how you dare to say that genocide happened on Turks. Turks commited genocide on Balkan Slavs and Greeks, on Armenians, Kurds, etc. Turky is genocidal state

Man, Turky still hold under occupation whole Anatolia, not to mention torture on Kurds who deserve freedom, BDW.


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isisores
  Nov 18, 07, 18:19  #17

Quoting: Crow
how you dare to say that genocide happened on Turks. Turks commited genocide on Balkan Slavs and Greeks, on Armenians, Kurds, etc. Turky is genocidal state

Man, Turky still hold under occupation whole Anatolia, not to mention torture on Kurds who deserve freedom, BDW.

we still hold occupation in anatolia? man we are living here since more than 1000 years. sorry but you really don't know anything about history, especially about turkish history. we have never made any genocide to any nation. when we came to balcans we didn't kill civils nor tried to throw them out. we just started to live together, even they got more developed by our high culture at those times conditions. and what did they do to us when we are weak? for example my father was born in yugoslavia, but yugoslavians pressured on my father's family and they needed to escape turkey when he was 12 to save their lifes. think about the genocide happened to turks in balcans. and freedom for kurds? please, turks and kurds are brothers, we are like bones and flesh. we can't get seperated, most of kurds live in istanbul now. other countries want turkey to seperate like they did in balcans but this will never happen, we are tied each other strongly.

all in all for one minute work your logic, if ottomans made genocide and hard pressure to other nations, how could it live 700 years? this is only possible with fair and tolerance. noone can control noone with pressure so long like this.

lol again about "anatolia occupation", ok then imagine we are leaving anatolia, where will 60 million turk go? to mars? you know nothing and talk easily from your chair. "freedom to kurds!" it's easy to say this stupid thing but you don't know how many kurds and turks die for this unrealistic hope. it only serves to big countries who sell guns to kurds, and the countries who want unstability in middle east. turks=kurds brothers.


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joepilsudski
Edited by: joepilsudski  Nov 19, 07, 10:23  #18

Quoting: WAKEUPPOLAND
Does anyone here know whether its a coincidence that the word "NAZI" is the end of the word "AshkeNAZI" ? OR is there a connection

I am going to speculate a bit here...the word Ashenazi is actually a Biblical name, as
Ashkenaz was one of the descendants of Noah, more precisely, a descendant of Japeth,
son of Noah, who some scholars consider the 'father of the 'Gentiles''...the Ashkenazim
are a division of Jews, who practice certain Talmudic rites/traditions...this 'Ashkenazim'
are speculated to have come into Germany from areas in France & Italy & the Balkans...
however, the bulk of what is called Ashkenazim are descendants of the Khazars/Kagans
who are a Turkic tribe from Central Asia...these form the bulk of the Ashkenazim Jews
from Russia, Ukraine, Lithuania & Poland...now, there is an Aramaic/Hebrew word 'nasi'
which means 'prince' or 'leader'...head rabbis were often refered to as the 'nasi'...are
you confused yet?...I will confuse you more...the word Nazi, refering to the German National Socialists, was never used by the Germans, to the best of my knowledge...it was an invention of American Zionists...so now I will give my final speculation...the word
'nazi' is just another word for 'princes' or 'leaders'...of course, these 'princes' were not
very sympathetic to the Jewish people...and the word 'Ashkenazi' could either mean
'princes of Germany' (Ashkenaz also being a middle-ages Hebrew transliteration of Germany)...but the curious thing is: Ashkenaz was 'father of the Gentiles'...Noah's other
sons, Shem & Ham are considered fathers of the Semites & Africans, respectively...so,
following this logic, Eastern Jews/Israelis are actually Gentiles, and Arabs are true Semites or sons of Shem...so this makes the term 'anti-semitism' ridiculous, since the ones who use it as a smear word, are Eastern European Jews, who are actually 'Gentiles'...and they hate Arabs, who are true Semites, or sons of Shem...the
'Israelites' of the Bible and what are now called 'Jews' are two completely different breeds of cat...this distinction is a cause of much confusion for Christians & non-Jews.

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joepilsudski
  Nov 19, 07, 10:32  #19

Quoting: isthatu
after three " Spring time for hitler and germany,winter for poland and france, goose steps the new step.........
Do you also do a minstrel show Erwache? Maybe run a circus freak show or wear flared tousers? You really are lost in the 21st century arnt you love, is it all getting to complicated for you, or do you genuinly have no clue how to spell ashkenaszhim see Naszh.. sounds like germnan for nose,must be a conspiricy........Do you have a local psychiatric unit you could maybe check yourself into for the week....oh,woops, seeing as psychiatry as we know it was predominantly developed by jewish people you will probably think its a conspiricy to brainwash us all...trouble is,a basic rule of brainwashing is that you need first a brain to wash....


Isthatu, you need to make Aliyah!

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Kilkline
  Nov 19, 07, 10:37  #20

Quoting: WAKEUPPOLAND
Quoting: joepilsudski
another truth the Jews fear is the exposure of Jewish involvement in Nazism, with Eichmann, Heydrich, Hitler


Does anyone here know whether its a coincidence that the word "NAZI" is the end of the word "AshkeNAZI" ? OR is there a connection ?


Thats right. And Polish people are so called because of their love of shining things.


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joepilsudski
  Nov 19, 07, 10:53  #21

Quoting: Kilkline
Thats right. And Polish people are so called because of their love of shining things.


You confuse 'polish' with Polish!...but actually, what I wrote about the word Ashkenazi is all true; the interpretation is open to debate.

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Kilkline
  Nov 19, 07, 10:58  #22

Quoting: joepilsudski
Quoting: Kilkline
Thats right. And Polish people are so called because of their love of shining things.


You confuse 'polish' with Polish!...but actually, what I wrote about the word Ashkenazi is all true; the interpretation is open to debate.


I'm not the confused one on this thread. Ashkenazi has f*ck all to do with National Socialist.


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joepilsudski
Edited by: joepilsudski  Nov 19, 07, 10:58  #23

Also, on the involvement of the Donmeh Jews/'Young Turks' in the Armenian genocide:
this is all historical fact...there is an Armenian Genocide forum that has interesting discussion/links on this...of course, modern Turkey is a 'strategic' ally, or shall I say 'asset' of both Israel & the US...and of course , this is another reason why the Armenian genocide is covered up by both...but I say this to Armenians: do not forget what happened, but don't blame ordinary Turks...there were forces at work behind the scenes to cause this tragedy.

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isisores
  Nov 19, 07, 17:41  #24

Quoting: joepilsudski
but I say this to Armenians: do not forget what happened

also tell them they killed turks more or equal than their loses. if you were turkish you would understand that your country is the side who suffered equally but everyone blames you while you are more innocent than everyone. also about cyprus and other things. yes there are forces at work behind the scenes, whoever strong it gives the news, and they make people believe to "unhappened genocide". it's a bad feeling to getting blamed unfairly. it was not genocide, it was a war with same sad loses from both side.


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joepilsudski
  Nov 19, 07, 18:34  #25

Quoting: isisores
it was a war with same sad loses from both side.


The same could be said for WWII...Germans are held responsible for criminal acts committed by many parties, including the US & UK, who killed over 200000 in one day when they firebombed Dresden...and many among those 200000 were Jews who were trying to escape from the Soviets.

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