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pipeczko
  Feb 28, 08, 08:37  #121

Abortion is NOT a catholic option, it's the option of a selfish married man! [quote=ShelleyS]

I was being kinda ironic when I said that ... : ) Just strikes me as almost funny (ALmost) that in such an ostenstibly anti-abortion, anti-adultery country, there are lots of (and there ARE lots of them) guys who see abortion and adultery as pretty much ok. The sensible, obvious option, is to have an abortion. I am apparently a wariatka because I didn't want to kill our baby. But that's another, much darker, discussion!

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plk123
  Feb 28, 08, 10:22  #122

ShelleyS wrote:
Abortion is NOT a catholic option, it's the option of a selfish married man!

what? but the catholic religion mandates that no abortion should be performed as it is a SIN or something..

ShelleyS wrote:
"this man might get you pregnant and vacate the country" <joke>

you know there is a joke thread (polack one too) somewhere around here. :P :D


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pipeczko
  Feb 28, 08, 17:56  #123

plk123 wrote:
what? but the catholic religion mandates that no abortion should be performed as it is a SIN or something..


That's the whole point. It IS a sin (in fact, 'sin' is an understatement), but for some reason it happens all the time. Eg, Polish wife says to Polish husband, Oh, sorry, pregnant again, but bloody hell, i can't be doing with more screaming kids in this one room flat, I'll just get rid of it.

That, to me, is pretty appalling. It is worse, far worse, than any so-called sleeping around. Sex is one thing. Betrayal is a very bad thing. But such a blase regard for life you've created ... that surely is on a different plane of badness altogether. In a different dimension. That is truly immoral, and within marriage, too - what does that make the marriage? A joke. All this lip-service is paid to 'values', and it's all complete bollocks. If you exterminate the children of yr marriage, as far as I'm concerned there IS no genuine marriage. The deal is broken.

Oh, I'd better not let myself get going on abortion. It's not on-topic ...

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plk123
  Feb 28, 08, 20:29  #124

right.. but they (church) push the no-contraceptives idea so this is what you get. and contraceptives probably are a sin too.


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King Sobieski
  Feb 28, 08, 20:42  #125

plk123 wrote:
and contraceptives probably are a sin too.


correct.

the only forms of contraception are the rhythm method or withdrawal method!!

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pipeczko
  Feb 29, 08, 01:27  #126

King Sobieski wrote:
the only forms of contraception are the rhythm method or withdrawal method!!


highly successful methods of CONception - i have two children to prove it!!

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ShelleyS
  Feb 29, 08, 05:18  #127

plk123 wrote:
what? but the catholic religion mandates that no abortion should be performed as it is a SIN or something..


Thats what I was saying, I said "Abortion is not a Catholic option" which was in response to pipeczko's post.

Anyway, I say you play with fire you get burnt, its just a shame in this case there is an inocent child who will grow up without a father because two people didnt have respect for vows taken!


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szarlotka
  Feb 29, 08, 05:24  #128

King Sobieski wrote:
rhythm method


Early on in my life I came to the conclusion that I was not going to use the rhythm method of contraception. I came to this momentous decision after my first attempts at dancing....


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pipeczko
  Feb 29, 08, 15:33  #129

ShelleyS wrote:
Thats what I was saying, I said "Abortion is not a Catholic option" which was in response to pipeczko's post.


Then you entirely missed the point of my post. No, of course abortion is not a Catholic option - I was highlighting the irony and hypocrisy of 'Catholics' considering abortion an acceptable option. I am not Catholic, and I too don't consider it an option. It is barbaric.

ShelleyS wrote:
Anyway, I say you play with fire you get burnt, its just a shame in this case there is an inocent child who will grow up without a father because two people didnt have respect for vows taken!


Wow, must be great to be so sure of yourself. Judge away. Nobody's saying a child will grow up without a father. And anyhow, love and understanding are the most important things a child needs. Not hypocrisy and judgementalism. Thankfully my child will inherit an open mind from me, whatever her upbringing.

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miranda
Edited by: miranda  Feb 29, 08, 15:36  #130

szarlotka wrote:
I came to this momentous decision after my first attempts at dancing....

bringin a smile to a frozen Canadian girl just earned you a lifetime membership to a salsa club in Toronto:)


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ShelleyS
  Mar 4, 08, 08:20  #131

pipeczko wrote:
Wow, must be great to be so sure of yourself


I dont sh*g married men..so I can be sure Im not getting in the family way to a family man!

pipeczko wrote:
Judge away


Just being honest.

pipeczko wrote:
Nobody's saying a child will grow up without a father


Hmmm...he's going back to his wife and children...you and yours are out of the picture.

pipeczko wrote:
love and understanding


I agree, and hopefully some better morals than you.

pipeczko wrote:
Not hypocrisy and judgementalism


I dont sleep with married men so Im not being a hypocrite when I say you are wrong for what you have done and I dont call it judgemental, I have an open mind to most things...but shaggin married men who have a family isnt justifiable in any way shape or form, its wrong...

pipeczko wrote:
Thankfully my child will inherit an open mind from me


No morals then after all! shame!


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tornado2007
  Mar 4, 08, 09:37  #132

Religion is the scurge of the world, it causes arguments, wars, isolation and stops integration between different people all over the world.

A tiny tiny tiny tiny example is the last page with the argument about catholic something or other.


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Public
  Mar 4, 08, 10:44  #133

"Abortion is NOT a catholic option, it's the option of a selfish married man!"

Or an option for a woman, who was raped, got pregnant and doesn't want to have this baby, because it was made not by love, but by violence and brutality.

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ShelleyS
  Mar 4, 08, 10:51  #134

Public wrote:
Or an option for a woman, who was raped, got pregnant and doesn't want to have this baby, because it was made not by love, but by violence and brutality.


Oh do shut up, you are taking this topic off the track! The thread is not about abortion and the rights and wrongs of it..


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Public
  Mar 4, 08, 12:29  #135

Actually, you've tracked me off the track. So it's your fault :)

No sorry, I won't do it again.

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pipeczko
  Mar 4, 08, 16:20  #136

ShelleyS wrote:
.you and yours are out of the picture.

You know, I think there's more than a hint of nastiness in your responses.
As far as I'm concerned, someone's marriage is their responsibility. I was told in no uncertain terms that this guy was separated and on the point of divorce. Only later did I discover that was not true. Being divorced myself, I know how it is possible to get to a point of no return in a marriage, and I believed he was there. Life is not as simple as you make it out - but you're welcome to your views. I'm not quite sure why you need to be vindictive and unpleasant to a complete stranger, though.

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ShelleyS
  Mar 5, 08, 06:04  #137

pipeczko wrote:
I'm not quite sure why you need to be vindictive and unpleasant to a complete stranger, though.


Im just being honest, do you want me to say "everything is going to be okay"....


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pipeczko
  Mar 7, 08, 09:41  #138

ShelleyS wrote:
do you want me to say "everything is going to be okay"...

Don't want you to say anything, actually, as it wasn't supposed to be a discussion about 'my' morals - you started the character assassination! Thanks, but have zero need for your comments.

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sledz
  Mar 7, 08, 09:49  #139

pipeczko wrote:
you started the character assassination! Thanks, but have zero need for your comments.


Likewise I`m sure

You dont have much character to assassinate

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jones101
  Mar 7, 08, 09:53  #140

pipeczko wrote:
It IS a sin


According to you and your belief system. That is something that many people in life cannot seem to understand. Just because you believe something does not make it true.

There are people who agree with you...who agree partly with you...ans who don't agree at all. Who says you are right and they are wrong? The Bible? Again not everyone believes in christianity. Too assume you are right about such things and those who don't agree with you are wrong is ridiculous and arrogant.

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pipeczko
Edited by: pipeczko  Mar 8, 08, 16:03  #141

sledz wrote:
You dont have much character to assassinate


blimey, you're a troubled lot, aren't you? (I don't mean just you)
am kind of astonished by the sort of casual nastiness in all of this - i guess the answer is don't post on this kind of site : ) (ie, note to myself! Who needs it?!)

jones101 wrote:
Too assume you are right about such things and those who don't agree with you are wrong is ridiculous and arrogant.


Sorry, but you're underestimating me by a mile. Of course I don't think I'm right and others are wrong. Life isn't like that! I simply know that from my own experience, my conclusion is that abortion is an abhorrently destructive act. That's my opinion, and I'm sure you would agree we're all entitled to our opinions. I would never presume to speak for someone else - other people think abortion is fine, and that's none of my business. I only used the (Catholic) language of 'sin' as a follow-on from the discussion about religious hypocrisy.

And think about this for a moment: isn't any 'opinion', by your definition, an act of arrogance?! I say 'Eastenders is fantastic' - you say 'No, it isn't - it's a load of old crap' - who is right, and who wrong? Who arrogant? Isn't every expression of differing opinion an act of subtle disrespect for whoever thinks differently? I think it probably is, which is why people fight over seemingly nothing.

Anyhow, no doubt there will now be 100 more posts about how I either have no character, or morals, or that/those that I have are of the devil and I should be burned at the stake ... have fun, guys ... : )

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ShelleyS
  Mar 10, 08, 04:32  #142

pipeczko wrote:
blimey, you're a troubled lot, aren't you?


I think you came on here looking for something that isnt here, I am sorry if I came across nasty but my bedside manner is rather Dr Shipman than Florrence Nightingale....Top and bottom of it is, you met the wrong man believed his lies and now you are paying for it...men can be f*ckers whatever nationality, if he isnt going to support you emotionally, make sure he does it financially....he might think twice about lying to another woman again.

Good luck.


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mahmoud
  Apr 9, 08, 12:36  #143

hello
my name is mahmoud im from egypt i speake littel polish .((teraz ja ucze sie jezk poliskego)) i search for nice girl friend from poland as i hear that polish girls r so romantic and thats why im searching for nice girl from there.
my e-mail (m_k_acc@hotmail.com)
if you are romantic please send me an e-mail
i wait you

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Goonie
Edited by: Goonie  Apr 9, 08, 12:47  #144

someone here could make a lot of money with a polish dating site :)


looks like the demand is there :D


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LondonChick
  May 2, 08, 09:28  #145

ShelleyS:
I am sorry if I came across nasty but my bedside manner is rather Dr Shipman than Florrence Nightingale....


You go girl!! :)


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