The Betrayal of Freedom in Europe: Back in the EUSSR

Democratic progress in the EUCCP continue.... Mostly Polish and British MEPs whom organized pro-referendum protest will be punished (most likely financially or banned from 10 days of useless debates) according to Hans-Gert Pöttering the president of the European parliament. This is freedom of speech in the EU, those who defend democracy are targets. For more detail about the protest click links below:


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most bizarre pic that i sow on the Net, honestly



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Oh my god, Crow! Where do you find this stuff? :P

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Actually, this 'Polish Wife' doll is a product of the Refco Novelty Company, from Jersy City,NJ owned by one Jefferey Stineberg...on a lighter note, I found this article from Reuters:
http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSN095991 2720080109

Speaking of conspiracy theorists....
an otherwise "normal" friend of mine recently gave me an impassioned speech about how a handful of wealthy international business people control most of the what happens (business and politics) in the world via a clandestine meeting held each year somewhere in Switzerland....

anyone else ever heard of such a thing?

I usually attend that meeting. The start of proceedings is siganlled by three blasts on the Alpine horn. We all have to wear liederhosen - it emphasises the secret handshake.

Please do not hijack my EU-bashing thread. :)

ciao SG!

Thanks to one my Poljski prijatelj (to say on slavicized english ;) )

What you think on this one... somehow, this is also according to topic of this thread

Yep Crow! She's out there, and she's been looking for a guy like you!
*giggles*


Thanks for clearing that up for me, donkey! :)

and if you don't mind saying......where do you buy your lederhosen?

bah, she can only dream about dinarid in her bed instead of that degeneric Bill ;)

always same with Evil Empires...

but, only Maria Teresa managed to get dinarids in her bed. She was cruel but, she at least was a lady in comparison with that Hilary

Who was that?

Maria Teresa, Empress of Austro-Hungaria

see...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Theresa_of_Austria

shopgirl wrote:

Speaking of conspiracy theorists....
an otherwise "normal" friend of mine recently gave me an impassioned speech about how a handful of wealthy international business people control most of the what happens (business and politics) in the world via a clandestine meeting held each year somewhere in Switzerland....anyone else ever heard of such a thing?

The annual meeting you speak of is called the Davos Forum, which is a meeting of US/EU/UK and Asian business-people, politicians and economists not unlike the Bilderberg Group...
the only differece is the Bilderbergs are EXTREMELY security conscious and allow NO reporting about what is discussed in their meetings...the Davos Forum is more open...also, there is a CONTINUAL gathering of inernational bankers in Basel at the Bank
of International Settlements (BIS)...this operates 365/24/7, although the big-wigs only
come in a few times a year...BIS was a creation of the Rothschild family, along wih their satellite families i.e. the Warburgs, Oppenheimers, Oppenheims, Speyers, etc., after WWI...it is sometimes called the 'Central Bank of Central Banks'...the Rockefeller family is also involved with all these groups.

Ireland will be the only country to have a referendum on the EU Treaty. As far as I know if we reject it the Treaty cannot proceed. But does anybody really believe that the EU will listen to the wishes of an obscure, wet little island in the middle of the Atlantic? Remember the Danes and Maastricht.

Anyway you will all be glad to know that as our economy is deteriorating rapidly and our Prime Minister is before a tribunal investigating financial irregularities that he was allegedly <cough> involved in, there is a chance that many people could see it as an opportunity to register a protest no vote.

Of course, the fact that all the main political parties are in favour means that the likelihood of the Paddies saying no is quite low. Just as a matter of interest, you will be all very glad to hear that the only party who are calling for a no vote are a marxist republican party called Sinn Féin, who are the political wing of the Provisional IRA.

So there you have it folks, the future of Europe lies in the hands of a group of former(sometimes current) paramilitary Irish Marxists. You couldnt make it up if you wanted to!!

We actually see that bureaucrats are unwilling to listen people from more populous states like France or Netherlands whom clearly rejected this project in referendum. Ireland rejected in the past the treaty of Nice and needed to vote again according Luxembourg PM above quoted rule"
"If the vote is yes, we will say: We go ahead. If it is no, we will say: We continue."

This is one way road, if you vote against they will announce another referendum or abandon referendum at all like in other countries. In the meantime massive propaganda campaign would target them, financed from their taxes of course. However if Irish people would accept this new treaty then there is absolutely no way to vote again on this issue even if they would reconsider with time.



Wrong. Future of Europe belong to people whom oppose Brussels bureaucracy. If a party that they traditionally voted support bureaucrats then this is the highest time to say good bay to such party. People should not be loyal to political parties in any way.

Jaroslaw Kaczynski himself made a comment about referendum.

Parliamentary solution would be better but if PO would propose referendum, then we would not oppose. The society in this case could speak out in referendum as well.

Referendum in Poland means also highly possible referendums in other countries and if this happens then we can forget about treaty.
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What could I say? Another honest comment of "democratic" politician.

I was speaking tongue in cheek (a joke!) - Sinn Féin have very little support - maybe 7 or 8% - although they are very opposed to EU in general - as well as being Marxists.

Anyway, the latest opinion polls out at the weekend say that the Yes camapign is ahead with about 26% and 10% say No. However, 66% of people have no information about the referendum and are undecided. I think that many of the undecideds will turn out to be no voters as most of the members of political parties support the treaty without even knowing anything about it. In fact nobody seems to know anything about it so far.

Link attached

http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0126/eu.html

They do not want to present many things for vote from the public directly because they are afraid that new Buonapartes will appear threatening Europe's stability and security.

How many times did you heard from European politicians that the new version of Constitutional Treaty is shorter ? This is one of their main excuses why to avoid referendums. Below Danish left-wing MEP, Jens-Peter Bonde shortly explain how Euro-bureaucrats managed to to make this treaty shorter.

Next article is great proof that Serbs are right in their resistance to global hegemony. Freedom is not empty word, for Serbs.

Now, Slovenia starting to shake under USA pressures, too...

Slovenian diplomat quits after report of US meddling in EU presidency
29 January 2008, 19:33 CET
http://www.eubusiness.com/news-eu/1201627027.03/


Slovenian document scandal claims first victim
29 January 2008 | 13:39 | Source: B92
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/region-article.php?yyyy=2008&mm=01&dd=29&n av_id=47316


SEE Security Monitor: Slovenia
Slovenia centre of Kosovo status issue scandal
January 28, 2008
http://www.csees.net/?page=news&news_id=65600&country_id=7



NOTE: USA insist to use Slavs against Slavs even when little Slovenia resist to be used against Serbs. Slovenians are also children of beloved (CANCELED) Yugoslavia. They know how Kosovo is valuable for Serbs. Brave Slovenians giving me hope that Slavdom would be awaken and era of our slavery finished. Our children would walk with dignity


The Slovenian scandal is only one of many. Another recent one was the US telling Poland and Czech Republic to accept the antimissiles and radar bases. Despite the fact that the population in both of those Slavic countries is against it, the politicians in those countries still blindly obey to war crimes of Washington (of Brussel, too).

What a fine example of `democracy at work`! We clearly see which forces wants to see NATO state of `independent` Kosovo! USA absolutely betrayed its own fundamental principles and the EU is totally stuffed up.

And, for Russians i have message, too: !See Russia how Slavs suffer in agony for Mother Slavia. We don`t ask who is Catholic, who is Protestant or who is Orthodox. See Russia and never again Russia, never again betray us!

That is asking a lot, bracie. For there to be any discussion the near future, Russia was become more transparent and show us her true intentions. Never again betray us? I hope to God that is true.

Sharia in UK unavoidable, says Archbishop

Published: Thursday 07 February 2008 21:41 UTC
Last updated: Thursday 07 February 2008 21:41 UTC
http://www.radionetherlands.nl/news/international/5633709/Sharia-in-UK -unavoidable-says-Archbishop



Poljaci, braćo i sestre!

Escape from UK while you still can. Don`t emigrate to Britain, nor anywhere on so called west. Their downfall is complete. Poland needs you Poles. Slavia is on knees, needs all her children

Arise with us brothers! Go on streets, support Serbs, defend Poland!

Say THEM - Never again, house of slavery!

he was misinterpreted and taken out of context

NATO, EU attempt to create Narco Muslim Sex traficking Calpihate on Kosovo- Serbian Christian ground

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I have to wonder if this has something to do with Russia backing Iran? Lets face it "Pres. Putin" ran to Iran, to get USA to not help Poland with the "anti missile", this didn't work so well, so USA step into where Russia is sitting and "Kosovo" after waiting since 1989 is free. Lets see Russia's turn next, what will "Putin" do. I know I just read where bombs coming into allie turf are "made in Iran".

things aren`t black and white

take this example. If you are right why then Poland hesitate to recognize separation of Kosovo? Why Czeska, Slovenia or Slovakia still hestitates, no matter all USA or EU pressures?

I have an explanation- Polish/Czech/Slovenian/Slovak strategic interests on Slavic South are closer to Russian then to USA position and even deflect from EU (read- German, British, Franch interests). Its simply as that.

Only fact that Poland is important Slavic country makes Poland possible even important great power. Slavic factor is also only Polish natural shield in case of eventual German invasion or even in case that Russia again batray Slavic interests and endanger Poland. Slavic factor is also decisive if USA or key EU powers batray Poland (if comes to this Poland can count even on Russia).

Which pressures?



Erm...sure....:)

Czechs remember that Yugoslavia refused to participate in the operations of Warsaw pact in 1968 in Prague.They also remember very positively the state of Yugoslavia where they spent their vaccations.



I think they are afraid.They are very afraid.



Here it is the gypsy problem.If the 500000 gypsies of Slovakia demand the eastern teritorries,there will be great problem.Also if the Hungarians in the south and east claim autonomy.Slovakia is only 15 years independant.No way to get in trouble again.



Wait and see tactique.They want to balance the reaction of Russia,to see how deeply involved the other EU states are,if there is something to gain for exchange of recognition,also some speculation that public opinion worldwide may change.

I think the slavic factor plays a lot in russian attitude and Bulgaria sees the whole issue exactly the same way with Serbia(1 million muslims in Bulgaria,probably of turkish origin).

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next topic about Kosovo ? There are 10 topics about Kosovo.

Souther pleas stop because all you do is discouraging people to Serbs, just because you manipulate (maybe not here but gerenaly tou do so) and in some post you have shown your opinion about Poland, and crow have done the same. (look on previous his posts on this page)

Where do I manipulate?



What is my opinion about Poland?Lukasz I have noticed that many Poles in this forum agree with me.See for example what Grzegorz wrote and others.