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Lukasz
Edited by: Lukasz  Feb 23, 08, 10:12  #61

southern wrote:
What is my opinion about Poland?


I have notice in some posts ypu point of views. lets leave it

southern wrote:
Where do I manipulate?


in some posts you do, in one you agreed you do so because you hate neocons

southern wrote:
Lukasz I have noticed that many Poles in this forum agree with me.See for example what Grzegorz wrote and others.


I agree in some points with you and Crow,

I think there is places to discusse about it on this forum. Ask Grzegorz or any Pole what is the opinion of most of Polish people about Kosovo. I thinik 90% don't have a clue "who is who" there, I think members of this forum are one of the best experts of blakanians problems in Poland. Last time there were some articles about Kosovo in press, and that Serbs are in some points right (not at all but in some) so some people know that Serbs are Slavic nation and Albanians are muslims. So their syphaty is on Serb side. I syphatize in some points with Serbs as well, I don't think we need new war there that is all. and that Serbs are animals because they are the same victims of this war like other "Yugo-nations". I don't think that Americans want to kill Serbia or EU has plan to destroy Serbia in long term. I think we need peace there and I think EU wants peace there, USA wants peace there, Poland wants peace there, Russia wants problems there because it is great opportunity for them to show EU/USA is weak.

Perosnaly I think most of members of this forum are tired that you write everywhere about Kosovo, in topics about Polish cousine, art, music, future, EU, computer games. There are places to write and discusse about it on this forum.


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Crow
  Feb 23, 08, 10:22  #62

Lukasz wrote:
xxxxxxx

next topic about Kosovo ? There are 10 topics about Kosovo.

Souther pleas stop because all you do is discouraging people to Serbs, just because you manipulate (maybe not here but gerenaly tou do so) and in some post you have shown your opinion about Poland, and crow have done the same. (look on previous his posts on this page)

well, if you think this way, i would turn off myself, don`t worry Luk

sorry man


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jones101
  Feb 23, 08, 10:27  #63

Yeah all you anti Kosovo people should get out and DO something about it like screaming in a big crowd or burning a flag!

Geez you are all talk.

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Lukasz
Edited by: Lukasz  Feb 23, 08, 10:33  #64

jones101 wrote:
Yeah all you anti Kosovo people should get out and DO something about it like screaming in a big crowd or burning a flag!


yes Serbs have done everytging to lost their reputation on west, and it is their mistake. Even Russian allies admited that burning US ambassy was mistake.

I think Kosovo is mistake, maybe it is in Polands business but it is misatke big mistake and very soon we will see why.


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jones101
Edited by: jones101  Feb 23, 08, 10:38  #65

You know what the real problem is here? PEOPLE. PEOPLE are stupid and have acted this way throughout all history and will not change.

**** and moan, whine, burn a flag or two. Stomp your feet and yell slogans. Weeee this is fun. It gives me something to laugh at anyway.

OK...time for dinner.

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Lukasz
Edited by: Lukasz  Feb 23, 08, 10:47  #66

Ok I see I praticipate in this discussion in wrong thread ;)

I wouldn't underestimate Serbs, because now we are going to change borders.

Serbs are majority in part of Bosina and now authonomy is not enought (after Kosovo) in parts of Kosovo where Serbs are majority we are going to have constant fights. Everything can change in new balkanian crisise. Of course Russia, USA, EU want to show who is more important/stronger/influencial. Nightmare

(heheh I think I slowly change in to Balkanian expert)


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celinski
  Feb 23, 08, 11:04  #67

It looks as if they want this protest in Kosovo.

Tensions rise as Serbs push into Kosovo

Restrictions have been brought in to prevent busloads of Serbs joining rallies in Kosovo. Protests over Kosovo's independence are continuing in the ethnically divided town of Mitrovica, which is located in the north of the disputed region.


http://russiatoday.ru/news/news/21279


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Crow
  Feb 23, 08, 11:27  #68

Now, you people realy ruined this thread

I mentioned Kosovo (sorry i realy don`t think about cakes right now; well maybe a little) in context of global strategic situation refering on Polish advantages as important Slavic country (and, yes i dared to say that Poland and Russia have some common interests! he, he- that`s the problem, i know)

If one have imagination one can even connect all this with topic of this thread. But, no, Luk don`t have imagination


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lesser
Edited by: lesser  Mar 29, 08, 12:50  #69

Very interesting episode in Polish discussion around ratification of the EU constitution rejected earlier in democratic referendums in Netherlands and France. Polish ruling party (PO) was proved of rigging the results of internet poll on their own website! They asked internet users whom visit their website whether treaty should be ratified or rejected by parliament or perhaps people should decide in referendum. Later a link to this poll was posted on internet blog of opponents of the EU constitution and many of them decided to vote against the treaty, they consisted majority of voters in this internet poll. People from PO found such outcome unacceptable and simply changed the results for a correct one according to their wishes. Unfortunately for them poll was monitored by somebody who made print-screens and later what was probably the most surprising some mainstream media reported the story as a one of the top news (Onet or Dziennik). Excuses started, two MP's from PO provided two different reason of why results changed (technical problems and hacker's attack) what is of course absolutely false. So they don't even admit what usually friendly to them media reported. When media reported the story old results were back and a day later poll was removed at all.


Question arise how Polish people could be sure that, even if referendum would be organized, wont be rigged? How they could trust to a regime which cannot even stand losing internet poll and shamelessly rigging such poll on their own website?

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http://www.upr.org.pl/data/1/Wyniki%20sondy%20PO%20-%20wykres.JPG

print-screens



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Seanus
  Mar 29, 08, 13:04  #70

Politicians are cretinous wankers i tyle


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Crnogorac
  Mar 29, 08, 15:38  #71

Politika je kurva.


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miranda
  Mar 29, 08, 15:42  #72

Crnogorac wrote:
Politika je kurva.

agree on this one


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Seanus
  Mar 29, 08, 15:44  #73

Good 2 c the anti politician rally is out in full force this evening ;)


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