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manser [Guest]
  Dec 13, 06, 07:50  #361

We out gunned the german sin fact, it was only because they went through the ardenne forest that they surprised us..................................................more luck than anything, strike 2

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manser [Guest]
  Dec 13, 06, 07:52  #362

Hitler had no chance, his only CHANCE was boming supply ships ect.

Plus if France didnt just surrender........

and let the french face the msuic, hell no, we had no chocie but to take safety acros the channel, or surrender.......?

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Stupidwelsh [Guest]
Edited by: Stupidwelsh  Dec 13, 06, 08:09  #363

Mincer, you aren’t very clever are you. You mock Poland for falling to Germany and ignore your countries involvement in it. Both Britain and France followed a policy of appeasement even though they both knew that Poland would be at risk from such a policy.

In March 1939 Britain officially pledged to protect Poland from German aggression, and then didn’t bother- maybe if Britain [and France] had kept their word Poland wouldn’t have fallen so easily to Germany- but we’ll never know as Britain **** out and didn’t keep its word.

Be proud of your heritage British Mincer

[Germany survived 1939] "only because approximately 110 French and English divisions in the West, which during the campaign on Poland were facing 25 German divisions, remained completely inactive."

General Alfred Jodl

Poland held out for 5 weeks, three weeks longer than was planed under the agreements reached between Britain, France, and Poland. Poland never surrendered to the might of Germany or the Soviets, it was overrun while its supposed allies stood and watched.





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_betrayal

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FISZ
  Dec 13, 06, 08:13  #364

There's too much crap to catch up on. This mincer just vomits in almost every topic.


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FISZ
Edited by: FISZ  Dec 13, 06, 08:35  #365

Pff. I knew you were Paul manser. What the hell happened to you? You were a completely different person in the other forum. I didn't mind you at all. Now you're here acting like a complete a**hole.

Why do you come here and talk sh*t about Poland? Did you get dumped by your girl? Go back to camp little boy.


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FISZ
  Dec 13, 06, 08:56  #366

I just read about your ex Aldona. I don't want to start slaggin you off because you do seem to be a level headed bloke....most of the time. Why this negative attitude all of a sudden?


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manser [Guest]
  Dec 13, 06, 09:25  #367

pure hatred Fisz and anger, im actually being serious with you now.

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FISZ
  Dec 13, 06, 09:31  #368

I'm sure...but what do you expect to accomplish by coming here and posting all of this crap?


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manser [Guest]
  Dec 13, 06, 09:38  #369

I actually just wanted to know what the punishment would be for the illegal act their doing, serious.

but.................anyway.

anyway as a last finale I did scrape enough dignity to post her some medication and info regarding her dental issue thats shes got as shes ina little pain..........................I obviously do care about her, i do have a soul lol. whatHM do is their concern now though and her fate from now on.

anyway lets call it a day yeh, id much rather open up a can of strongbow

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FISZ
  Dec 13, 06, 09:45  #370

Quoting: manser, Post #377
much rather open up a can of strongbow

Good shite there


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manser [Guest]
  Dec 13, 06, 09:47  #371

Along with Tyskie and Lech ...................and whats it called argh cant remember the name wotek or something, sorry im no good at Polish spelling.

Polish do make good Beer.

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manser [Guest]
  Dec 13, 06, 09:50  #372

I will admit I did have a good time out ther ein Poland. The poles really did care whether you was unhappy or not.

Had a bad day outt here once ect and the poles did a good job of cheering me up lol they bought this thing* from a pub that holded about core god knows 4 litres or soemthing in heihgt of pure beer. im sur euve come across it.

pump thing u do it urself ect

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BubbaWoo
  Dec 13, 06, 12:12  #373

Quoting: Stupidwelsh, Post #361
It’s nice that we can talk about the ‘place’ that Poland has in Europe, the history does indeed make for gripping and fascinating storytelling. For me Poland will be the success story of Europe in the next decade, there was always the will- and now there is the way.

Those that fear the Poles are fools and betray their inability to learn from the last 100 years of history- the Polish people are really going to make a beneficial difference to Europe and I am proud that I am part, if only in a small way, of the movement to support the task.


couldnt agree more SDub... my hope is that they can learn by the mistakes the more established members of the eu have made and follow a different path...

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manser [Guest]
  Dec 13, 06, 13:01  #374

How much does the western EU powers give Poland anyway?

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Stupidwelsh [Guest]
  Dec 13, 06, 13:32  #375

With respect Manser, you seem to have a strange view of how the EU works, who are the EU western powers? Nobody gives anyone anything directly except the EU, member states pay into the EU budget then, then the money is allocated as per the budget.

Due you mean which country contributes the most to the EU budget? If so it is Germany, then France, Italy, United Kingdom of Britain and Northern Ireland [Britain contributes 13% of the budget]. Poland ranks number 11 out of 25 states contributing to the EU budget, Ireland is number 15. I’ve taken into account the British rebate in those figures.

I don’t have up to date figures for Gross Domestic Product, but the UK’s is in the region of 2.5 times higher than Poland’s I would guess [an educated guess].

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manser [Guest]
  Dec 13, 06, 13:34  #376

cheers for that welsh

What is your opinion about Bulgaria and Romania joining on 1st jan 2007?

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Stupidwelsh [Guest]
  Dec 13, 06, 13:50  #377

To be honest I don’t have an educated, formulated, opinion on the matter. I think that Romanian’s will arrive in the UK [word on the street is they are already here] and that will continue to keep unskilled/ semi-skilled wages low [as in at or near the legal minimum wage]. Some Polish nationals I have spoken with are clearly worried that this might effect their employment prospects, but it’s my feeling that generally it will have little impact on them.

From a moral stand point I feel angry with the UK government for attempting to place restrictions on work for Romanians and Bulgarians when it did not place those restrictions on the Polish. I fear that it will force the new workers onto the grey market where they are at risk of being illegally exploited.

There’s no denying that people in the UK have struggled to come to terms with the influx of Polish workers, and it’s my fear that Romanian and Bulgarian workers forced to work illegally will give them [UK citizens] a stick to beat the Polish with.

I suppose in an ideal world I would have liked that Bulgaria and Romania weren’t joining for another 2 years, but that’s only from the view of an UK citizen- it would have been nice to have some time for the dust to settle I guess.

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manser [Guest]
  Dec 13, 06, 13:55  #378

EU is expanding way too fast. god bless the fact that the UK has not joined the Euro as currency. God forbid the day Poland joins the euro too, 2010 I heard? this correct?

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manser [Guest]
  Dec 13, 06, 13:56  #379

with 600 000 poles coming to the UK or more, the UK had no choice i feel to put a limit on the workers coming here.

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FISZ
  Dec 13, 06, 14:05  #380

Quoting: manser, Post #386
2010 I heard? this correct

I hear sooner. like 2008


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Stupidwelsh [Guest]
  Dec 13, 06, 14:14  #381

Well it’s a bit like closing the gate after the horse has bolted I think. From January a Pole can come and work in the UK with no problem, but a Romanian cannot- and yet they are equal EU citizens in law?

Also Poles now have access previously denied to them to work in many other EU states, so we may find they all decamp to Spain leaving a massive manpower shortage and the government will have to do a massive U turn and tell the Romanians and Bulgarians they can come to the party after all.

I do wonder about the government’s ability to correctly manage immigration I’ll be honest. Until recently I was a member of the Labour Party, and I wasn’t the only one warning of a massive influx from Poland back in 2001, 3 years before it happened. And that isn’t because of any Polish sentiment, just an observation and analysis based on the available data back then. But the British economy was slowing, and we needed cheap workers, so nobody cared back then.

So I just got on with it, I lost my last job to a Slovakian and a Hungarian, my salary was enough to cover both of theirs- no employer is going to turn down a ‘buy one get one free’ offer are they? Luckily I could see what was coming so I chose 2 people and trained them so that when the axe fell it would be held by people I respected, people I knew would get the job done with integrity. They are still friends now, going to visit them this weekend and I’m sure we will remain friends for a very long time.

They didn’t steal my job, the brutal economics of a free market economy did

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manser [Guest]
  Dec 13, 06, 14:26  #382

I lost my last job to a Slovakian and a Hungarian


ok thats just savage...ID be pissed.



What will the effects be with the Euro for Poland? I have a pretty dark picture in mind but what about what other ppl think?

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Stupidwelsh [Guest]
  Dec 13, 06, 16:51  #383

It isn’t savage, I had enough cash, it wasn’t the end of the world, and I got to choose my replacements and made 2 good friends.


Can't wait for the Euro to come to the UK, in fact I tend to use the Euro on a daily basis, it's only when I try to actualy buy something in a shop with them I have a problem

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manser [Guest]
  Dec 13, 06, 16:55  #384

Well poland joining the Euro currency cant be good. I prefer having a big wodd of PLN in my hands that Euros. call me a money freak if you like.

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manser [Guest]
Edited by: Admin  Dec 13, 06, 16:56  #385

just nice to hold a fat wodd in ur hand

from british pounds to zloty that is.

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i couldnt imagine the Uk taking up the Euro. Everyone is against it. Anyway wouldnt the euro hike up prices? its as bad as it is in the UK.

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Stupidwelsh [Guest]
  Dec 13, 06, 17:19  #386

It’s irrelevant, we can have Euros that have the Queen’s Head on them- I’m old enough to remember £/S/D [just], it’s not how many pieces of paper you hold in your hand, or what’s printed on them- all that matters is how much it is worth.

And the Euro is well on track to be the preferred currency not just within Europe but the world, Given London’s status as a premier money market switching to the Euro makes a lot of senses- but just like we sat and watched to see what happened back in 1939 we do so today.

Everything is traded on the international market in US Dollars, with the Euro fast catching up- but the average UK citizen is unaware of that.

Saying all that I agree with the UK government’s stance on integration into the Euro mechanism, but we will join it eventually that is for sure.

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dulciana
  Dec 13, 06, 17:19  #387

Quoting: ola123, Post #147
dont forget that our soldiers died fighting for your country 60 years ago and then you sold us.


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I'm surprised that no-one has yet mentioned the fact that, at the ceasation of hostilities, Churchill tried to warn of the USSR communist ambitions. He didn't like or trust Stalin, and tried to prosecute the peace.

The UK was shattered by this time, and could do nothing without allied help.

It was Truman who allowed Europe to be carved up the way it was, and not the UK, but can we really blame anyone, after such devastation and loss of life?

People wanted peace, at almost any price.

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manser [Guest]
  Dec 13, 06, 17:23  #388

Blame Chambalein, public enemy number 1

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manser [Guest]
  Dec 13, 06, 17:25  #389

I wonder when.

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dulciana
  Dec 13, 06, 17:25  #390

Quoting: freddy, Post #149
no the bnp have alot of african supporters ,they consider themselves british and have integerated well over the years ,even they are fed up with immigration ,i know quite few black bnp supporters ,the bnp is not just about black or white its about our future and protecting our heritage and stopping immigration.so nothey wont send all the blacks back the majority were born here and are british


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I wish Freddy would get the quotes right. I didn't write what he quoted. That came from the pen of 'Saffron,' and not me!

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