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Lee_England [Guest]
  Feb 11, 07, 15:26  #421

Quoting: Amathyst
So it's a vicious circle, soon the Poles will out and the Romanians / Bulgarians in....but that still doesnt explain to me what the English men with famlies and mortgages will do?? I understand it's an open market and Im not against people coming to England to work, my concerns are for my friend at the moment who's husband is out of work and she's just had a child, he's been in the trade for 20 years and is a hard worker not one of these that takes 2 hour tea breaks...he's a grafter....


There has been job losses but there has been people that have profited from it. I don't know the exact figures but I image those with mortgages will have to sell up and go unemployed.

However A lot of English people I know have done excatly what I've done, started their own businesses, Employed eastern europeans and used the extra income to make investments in Eastern Europe.

We did the same thing 15 years ago in Spain by buying all the houses there, the only problem nowdays is all the houses in spain are too expensive for the spanish people, so we rent them out to them.

I imagine in 10 years a lot more houses in Poland will be English owned and thus too expensive for the average Pole to buy. Unfortunatly for you guys this is going to be the downside of the work you are getting today.

Basically it's up to the Poles to use the money they are earning here and investing it back into your own country, before we (the english) do.

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LoneStranger
  Feb 11, 07, 15:30  #422

Quoting: Amathyst
importing cheaper products.


If i get the same service at a cheaper price, I will be happy to have that!

You dont seem to be interested to accept the world the way it is. It is nothing new. This has been happening from the beginning of civilization.

And in modern world, its better to accept migrations and options. If you want to be better, perform better. If you cant, dont hunt the others down. To be first in school, its better to practice more, than throwing all the other students out and being the only one in class .

All your post seem to have the same sorry tale of England being taken over by Asians. If its such a problem then stad for Prime Miniter with your issues.

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Frank
  Feb 11, 07, 15:48  #423

Yes...we are all inclined to forget how recent are all the economic changes....few for the better as regards manfacturing things.

In N Ireland........1980s.......20% un-employment..........average......parts 50%....yes...50%!!!!!!!!

Now 2.6%.........and we have 100000 guest workers in N Ireland......how.....explain....?.......some industries have been hit yes........but ok for the moment.......

The economy will cool at some stage....but 90% of these workers are temporary/migrant...will return if jobs dry up....


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Amathyst
  Feb 11, 07, 16:16  #424

Quoting: LoneStranger
All your post seem to have the same sorry tale of England being taken over by Asians. If its such a problem then stad for Prime Miniter with your issues.


LS you dont know the reality in the UK I do, so think what you like about me, I have always said I havent got a problem with people coming to England, I understand about economic mirgration but it's the level of migration that bothers me...

please look at the stats of the UK, size and population and you will see that we are a small island with too many people.


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Frank
  Feb 11, 07, 16:20  #425

A.....pro rata Ireland has taken in far far more than UK.....

60 million........say 500000 East Europeans



Ireland...both parts.......6.5 million.......200000 plus East Europeans.....!!!


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LoneStranger
  Feb 11, 07, 16:46  #426

Quoting: Amathyst
please look at the stats of the UK, size and population and you will see that we are a small island with too many people.


My comment was not regarding your populations by the way.

England is a different kind of place into Europe. You have colonised many thriving nations (in many unpleasant ways, if you read history... and by the way, I am a fan of the Gandhi, read alot about him, and so know abit of India).

Migrants will come more to UK. It has alot more reasons that any other place. I wonder why so less migrants in your place.

Be cool. If you have problems with modern migrants. See the reason, and do best to meet the right solution (for me that would be accepting migrants).

I dont know UK. I dont live their. I got no interest to live their.

Have a nice time.

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