Big decline of Catholic religion in Poland

I agree. Religion tells us that we should pray for better luck as if metaphysical forces predetermine our future. We can make our own luck. In truth, of the stated 95% being Roman Catholics in Poland, only about 55% are practising ones. Numbers are said to be dwindling.

I hope there is a decline! stupid roman catholic church! it is a very corrupt institution!

It's all so silly, most of these catholics would have been Jews had they been born in Israel, muslim had they been born in Iran, or totem worshipers had they been born in some native american tribe back in the day. Everyone's acting like their thing is special because they believe in it. Religion is almost like a gene, every culture has something like it, not because it was revealed to them in some miraculous event, but because it's a cultural instinct.

Flip side,in Britain religion was used to outlaw the trans atlantic slave trade .....it all depends on who's interpretaion of religion is followed.

So, you know there's got to be something wrong if the whole interpretation is skewed...that's what man and religion will do. I tell people all the time...you'd better think for yourself and worry about the other later. I have a friend who won't leave her house. She wants to find a man, but says..."The Lord is going to send me a man..." Ha, the only man which is going to be sent her way is the postman and he goes to everybody.

Okay, so why can't priests get married and have a family OR at least be given an option? If we are all God's children and equal, why cannot a woman become a priest in the Roman Catholic faith?

I totally agree with this...there is no reason a priest shouldn't be able to get married. A man or woman for that reason is no closer to GOD by not being married or not. I'm not Catholic, but people need to rise up against this. It's nuts. Man nor woman are meant to live alone.

Well, a priest knows more or less what he's getting into before he becomes a priest. The conditions are pretty straight-forward and clearly spelled out for everyone. Crying about it after the fact seems a bit stupid, especially that nobody's keeping these people in the priesthood by force.

You seem to be confusing religious institutions with democracy.

There were openly married Popes upto the 10th century.
Much of the Catholic churches rules were introduced centuries after the death of Christ.
I think that Jesus would find most aspects of organised Christianity unacceptable.

Mohammed would recognise his teachings, virtually unaltered, in Islamic texts BUT it's lack of flexibility and acceptance of progress causes problems.

Maybe it's time for mankind to accept that God is obsolete and all religion is superstitious nonsense.

Jesus was a great man, the passion of the christ has rekindled mans faith in christ

- Yo, He perhaps was, but you ain't. You're not even human, wretched psychopath.
:)

Puzzy, what's a Catholic in ur eyes?

- One who honestly believes in and practices Catholicism. Why are you asking, Seanalny?

Catholic in ur eyes?

Tonight Saul i'm going to be His Holiness Urban the Second

Hmm wait a minute, that was Pope Idol. Sorry it's a liturgical nightmare these days. :)

Carry on.

I've done alot of reading and really, early Christianity wasn't about praying for luck, succes or money..

It was about love and forgiveness, and nothing more. People in those times were extremely afraid of God, as those people created themselves an imaginary, and horrible entity. Jesus probably knew this, and he gave us a way to find your inner self, and finding peace within yourself. Actually, I think Buddhism is very much comparable to early Christianity.

Romans and Jews didn't like those Christians. Those Christians called Jahweh a son of Jaldabaoth, the devil.. While the Jews worshipped Jahweh as a stern and righteous, but hateful God. So it would make sense that the Jews wanted Jesus dead because he was actually spreading such a message? The Romans probably sought to use the religion of the Jews as a tool to control the masses, to keep the people they wanted to control more afraid. But, it's a battle of ideas, and unfortunately, ideas can do a lot of damage in your mind, and even alter your perceptions.

I think the best religion would be to listen to your heart, and to your own conscience, it usually tells you when you're doing the wrong things, if you care to listen to it at all that is..

But, I find it interesting how Jesus' message once read that we can make the Kingdom of God happen on earth, by doing the right things for eachother, while the Churches say it's something that will fall from the sky after some horrible judgement..

I believe in the former, not the latter. It sounds logical doesn't it? If we want to make changes for the better, then it makes sense we should be that chance for the better? It's something we have to learn, it's something we have to do. And I mean, all of us together. I don't believe in sexual sins or whatever. I just believe in having the choice to do the right, or the wrong thing.. I don't believe in judging one another on personal preferences, but it's true we need some sort of law and order to make our societies a bit safer..

Anyway, I'd love to talk about this for ages but for now I'm just going to enjoy my beer.

Because I have found that many people of any religious denomination cannot give me satisfactory definitions of what it means to be of that faith.

So, r u a Catholic and, if so, what makes u so?

Answer is very simple. Catholic is somebody who honestly try to run his life according to the teaching of the Catholic Church.

Yeah, go figure. What are the teachings of the Catholic church?

That's what I'm asking.

This is too wide topic to answer on the internet forum. Anyway, to read from the direct source is the best choice how to learn. One must to spend a while to discover some things, there is no other way.

CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

What ever it says in the protocanonical books.


.....couldn't resist

By the grace of God Mary remained free of every personal sin her whole life long.

I have lifted the above from a section of what u gave me lesser. If this is true, why do Catholics go to mass 2 purge their sins and pray for expiation? Isn't Mary supposed to be the guiding light, the figurehead to whom many look up to?

Is it a striving for purity that Catholics 'religiously' follow?

Sorry, I see certain inconsistencies already. Inherent to many religions I guess. Faith isn't always rational after all.

Well laugh it up if you want but Catholics are statistically less likely to commit suicide.

Faith is irrational by definition.

It depends how you interpret rationality, I broadly agree with you

People have a free will and they are responsible for their actions.



They definitely should.



Note that this also depends from how do your interpretation.
While religion is always irrational. People believe in God because not everything can be rationally explained.



Fortunately pope Benedict seems to be the right man on the right place. Big NO to democracy in the CC!

Dont give the average bod in the street more credit than they deserve. Most of them are sheep (no offence S) and are easily moulded

However this is their decision, rational or not.