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masks98
  Jun 11, 08, 11:35  #721

Well I'm a black guy from New York, And When I walk around with my Polish girlfriend I get grilled from all sorts of people, guys, girls, young and old. Sometimes I even feel like the birds are like "wtf??" I was once told at a house party that I'm smart and cool because i'm american, but that "here the blacks are mostly african and they are stupid, we really don't like them." I was like wtf?? I almost wanted to swim back to my beloved statue of liberty.

 
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incubus
Edited by: incubus  Jun 14, 08, 12:11  #722

PieknaTancerk:
And what about black women who date white mean. And what makes them dirty if they are looking for what is on the inside and not necessarily what is on the outside


well said!

masks98:
Sometimes I even feel like the birds are like "wtf??"


lol

 
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Wulkan
  Jun 15, 08, 02:58  #723

masks98:
I was once told at a house party that I'm smart and cool because i'm american, but that "here the blacks are mostly african and they are stupid, we really don't like them."


well thats right, all those immigrants from africa are stupid and sometimes dengerous, I wonder why the goverment doesn't do anything about it...

 
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tomek
  Jun 15, 08, 04:10  #724

masks98:
Well I'm a black guy from New York


You don't seem to be pure black, if it's you on the photo, so maybe thats the main difference in many aspect to blacks from africa they refer to.
But I'm curious, did you make many friends among the african blacks in Poland?

 
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ina_pod
  Jun 15, 08, 04:56  #725

masks98:
Well I'm a black guy from New York, And When I walk around with my Polish girlfriend I get grilled from all sorts of people, guys, girls, young and old. Sometimes I even feel like the birds are like "wtf??" I was once told at a house party that I'm smart and cool because i'm american, but that "here the blacks are mostly african and they are stupid, we really don't like them." I was like wtf?? I almost wanted to swim back to my beloved statue of liberty.


Hmmm...I have to say that I am surprised of what you said. No matter where you live, people always starring at interracial couples...I lived in NJ and had very good friend who was African-american..Whenever we hung out for lunch or just walk and talking, people was starring at us( of course not like here but u could not it). We discus many times why is that...For me was really strange because there live people from all nations and no one should act like that...I will always remember when once we were walking down the street and there was some construction workers...they stopped working and watching at us. It made me feel weird, but later just was laughing with it....I also note, that black women can't stand when some hot "bro" is hanging out with white girl....LOL...It's just a life darling and don't take it personal :)

 
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masks98
Edited by: masks98  Jun 15, 08, 05:21  #726

Yeah black girls get super jealous about that crap and have given me hell for it. "what we ain't good enough for you?? you think you better than us???" And it's true that interracial couples will always be kind of taboo, but back home the only people who gave me crap were other eastern europeans. A couple of russian guys started growling at me like dogs on the train once, but overall nobody cares. Big difference here in Warsaw.

Tomek:
You don't seem to be pure black, if it's you on the photo, so maybe thats the main difference in many aspect to blacks from africa they refer to.
But I'm curious, did you make many friends among the african blacks in Poland?


I'm black, any white supremacist will vouch for that and hunt my @ss down, not all black people have the same skin tone, same for white people. Anyways my family is mostly haitian, my grandmother is cuban that's about it.

And I have barely seen any africans here, the ones I do see are just walking down the street so no I haven't made any African friends here. But I've known Africans in New York, in France and Switzerland, it's a bit off to say that they're stupid. Some are, somme aren't. Same with Poles isn't it?

wulkan:
well thats right, all those immigrants from africa are stupid and sometimes dengerous, I wonder why the goverment doesn't do anything about it...


Shoudn't it do something about all the stupid and dangerous hooligans first?

 
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ina_pod
  Jun 15, 08, 15:13  #727

masks98:
I'm black, any white supremacist will vouch for that and hunt my @ss down, not all black people have the same skin tone, same for white people


Once I was listening Michael Basden's radio show " Love,Lust and Lies" and some girl called and said that her sisters are extremely jealous of her because she is light skinned...Then first time I heard what does mean "yellow @ss" .
What I've learn over there is that you never should judge people based on their nationality,race or religion. ...I have met wonderful people who helped me a lot and we are great friends-they are Jews, my best gf is from Columbia,hubby is Polish guy...Important is what kind person is, not where is coming from!
Going to bed ...Monday is coming...AGAIN!!:(

 
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Lightist
  Jun 16, 08, 20:03  #728

Firstly I have to apologise for the length, I read this thread and felt the need to comment (or write an essay!) As for me, I'm a Black guy from the UK (parents are Jamaican, I was born in UK, as such I class myself as Black British).

I have a friend(girl) who is Polish, from time to time we like to book short breaks away together, just to chill out and catch up. This time it was her choice and she chose Poznan. After doing a little research I wobbled for a bit and had second thoughts, I chose to look at the 'negative' views that are around on the internet, the ones that expressed it wasn't good for a Black guy to be in Poland (never mind walking around with a Polish girl on his arm!). Anyhow, life is too short and so...we went. I came back 2 days ago and yes...an interesting experience for sure.

For me Poznan is a beautiful place, nice architecture, vibrant and as it happens pretty laid back. I was too busy expecting the worse that I'd forgot what I was going for...the culture, to experience a little of Poland. As I walked the streets, yes we were noticed but not as I'd expected. I guess when you truly look into a persons face they can't really hide their real feelings. It's true that the 'odd' look was one of disgust or amazement, my favorite was an old woman who stood there open mouthed (which was full of food) as my Polish friend linked arms with me walking through Poznan square, still...it wasn't really a bad luck, it just seemed she couldn't believe what she was seeing, but she made no comment. I arrived in Poznan on the night Poland played Austria (a game you should have won ;). All the bars were packed and I sat and watched the football with some locals. I got no grief, not many looks really, just more of a party atmosphere all round. Yes, I had my wits about me and yes, I'm aware their are undesirables about, but in truth, I felt pretty calm that night, even more so after a few vodkas. The lads sang on the square, setting off fireworks, I walked past them...no grief, no nothing!

I was only there for a few days but what I did notice was this. The keyboard Kings & Queens who pollute a few forums with their over zealous views are probably not the majority they think they are. As said, people did look at us as a couple, some curious, some dislike, but the majority, well the majority was something else, it was like a look of acceptance...not acceptance for me or the girl that I was with. An acceptance that Poland is changing, its moving forward, and its happening fast. The main of the people seemed on the ball and I think they're open to change. In honesty, quite a few smiles were sent my way. And I don't just mean by girls looking for a quick flirtation, I mean by Polish people in general, couples, young, old, etc, etc. On the issue of Polish women, agreed...alot of attractive women around, some would look and some wouldn't, just like I'd look at some and others I wouldn't. Attraction is a personal thing, it's quite funny that its even being debated really. We all like who we like, don't think any kind of generalisation is going to get to the bottom of it. Even funnier was brain size and race coming into the equation...mmm...what about Soul size? if my shines brighter than yours does it make me more intelligent? closer to God? but then...what if you don't believe in God?...bit of non-argument really!

Anyhow, I'll stop ranting and get back to Poznan. Yes I was cautious, but I'm glad I went. The people of Poznan still seemed calm not as stressed as their British counterparts maybe, I could still see a quality of life there. Don't get me wrong, I love England, but like Poland, it is in transition at the moment, and sometimes seems a little tooo hectic for the likes of moi!!! But still, it is home :) To me, Poland is integrating and its happening fast. With so many nationals out of the country an exchange of cultures and diversity is a natural movement/flow. Forgot to mention, the food was wicked too. As for Black guys and white girls...figure we just do what feels right, maybe start with good guys for good girls and work it out from there...

 
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ina_pod
  Jun 17, 08, 08:18  #729

Well said, Lightist:)

 
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IronsE11
  Jun 17, 08, 08:29  #730

I stopped reading at:

Lightist:
I arrived in Poznan on the night Poland played Austria (a game you should have won ;).


as you clearly don't know what you're talking about ;)

I have a white friend who is married to a black girl. He wont go to many places in Eastern Europe because he can't be bothered with the aggro whether it be verbal abuse or open-mouthed stares.

It will improve with time and education.

 
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masks98
  Jun 17, 08, 10:33  #731

That was interesting lightist, my experience is similar, except that I had a really hard time dealing with the stares. In New York if someone stares at you too long it's a fight, so I'o I instictively hate being stared at even though I know it's to be expected. I got used to it now. I had similar festive experiences with Poles here, I hope to have some more, but I'm still wary of going to a nightclub or something. And were I to frequent one it would be in Warsaw, never in a smaller town, I've turned down some opportunities to go partying in Zamosc. It depends on where you go, Zamosc itself is not that bad, although so far that's the only place where I've been taunted, and pointed at. Today I had a strange experience in Warsaw, I was walking with my girlfriend, when we came close to some white polish girl talking to two 'gangsta' black dudes. I can't imagine what she said to them, but they both turned around and grilled me worse than I've ever been grilled in Poland. So maybe it's not just me race, maybe it's me mug, i've just got one of those faces...(John Lennon said something like that once..)

 
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Lightist
Edited by: Lightist  Jun 18, 08, 07:54  #732

Thanks Ina:)

As for this...

IronsE11:
as you clearly don't know what you're talking about ;)

Well, what can I say? At least I know what side of the fence your on Irons ;) To be fair I didn't really see ALL of the match as I was too busy people watching! First evening in Poznan and all that:p.

And yes Masks, like you and Irons mate, getting used to the staring thing is a little weird. Not sure I could deal with it full-time because in the 21st century I haven't got the patience for it, but I understand where it comes from and yes, it will change in time. Like you, I was wary of a nightclub venture as people seem to get a little braver as the night goes on, one step at a time I guess. Do think I'll retutn to Poland in the future tho...

 
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scott usa
  Jun 29, 08, 08:31  #733

Maska in detroit in the high schools only 23 percent of black finish high school and i am so sick of hearing about racist still what is the blacks going to do if we have a black president lol what are they going to complain about?They still talk about stuff over 300 years ago and say it is holding them down and did u know all though there are only 32 black people in usa they account for more then 85 percent of aids in the world also not to mention the percent of blacks in jail.So what are u and ur hommies going to complain about if there is a black president becuase u cant say america is racist no more since they voted for a black president what will be ur excuss for the next 300 years?

 
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Film Maker
  Jul 1, 08, 08:47  #734

Hi,

I am a MA student in Video Production and Film studies at TVU London and making a documentary about relations between Black guys and Polish girls. I am looking for people who are interested in taking part in my documentary. I am looking for a Polish girl who is dating a Black guy and both are willing to take part in the documentary. So, if you fit the criteria and live in London or close to London, please contact me.

Please note that the schedule for this project is tight so if you are interested please e-mail or call me as soon as possible.

Regards


Vahab
MA Video Production and Film Studies
Thames Valley University
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E-Mail: vahab5@yahoo.co.uk

 
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espana
  Jul 1, 08, 09:12  #735

Film Maker:
I am looking for people who are interested in taking part in my documentary

a documentary or a porn film? hehe

 
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taiji000
  Jul 1, 08, 09:25  #736

Firstly, apologises for bad english, i have never been to any english speaking country or anything. I have had a black gf for more than 2 years now. We have been to Poland many mnay times. Never experienced anything bad. We traveler around Poland (something like tramps) people were very friendly, i have never heart anything bad about us. Yes people looked at us, stared and such, but they do because its something diffrent. I got a lot of tattoos and people stare at me too :)

We experienced lots of rasist from...black people. Expescially in France or Spain. Of course, some black people were very very friendly to us asking us stuff about how it is if its hard and so un, but those were usually those older folks. Young 'gangsta' types were not friendly at all.
Once in france i was told that 'black girls shouldt go out with white dudes' to my face, by a black guy. Im not the person u **** to, so i shouted at him like it should be (like in the army) he ran away.

Few posts eairlier, someone mentioned that a polisdh guy is afraid to take his black gf to Poland becasue of abuse etc. What kind of man is he? People like him wont change the world or make it even better for interacial couples.

Also, you got loads of rasist people all over the world, you wont change they way they think, trust me, I tried that till i was 23, then i gave up. People are like dogs u need to be strong with them and not let them **** with you :)

 
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Wulkan
  Jul 1, 08, 11:37  #737

Film Maker:
Hi,

I am a MA student in Video Production and Film studies at TVU London and making a documentary about relations between Black guys and Polish girls. I am looking for people who are interested in taking part in my documentary. I am looking for a Polish girl who is dating a Black guy and both are willing to take part in the documentary. So, if you fit the criteria and live in London or close to London, please contact me.

Please note that the schedule for this project is tight so if you are interested please e-mail or call me as soon as possible.

Regards


Vahab
MA Video Production and Film Studies
Thames Valley University
London
E-Mail: vahab5@yahoo.co.uk



blacks and polish girls why not blacks and just white girls. whats the point of this film, to advert this kind of relationship ?

 
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  Jul 1, 08, 19:03  #738

Wulkan:

blacks and polish girls why not blacks and just white girls. whats the point of this film, to advert this kind of relationship ?

no its not to advertise this film, its because there are not many black guys in Poland and that makes the story more interesting and unique and I also happened to be familiar with both Polish culture and a little bit of black culture as well, so it would be easier for me to make a documentary about something which I am already familiar with.

 
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Wulkan
  Jul 2, 08, 11:14  #739

Film Maker:
its because there are not many black guys in Poland and that makes the story more interesting and unique and I also happened to be familiar with both Polish culture and a little bit of black culture as well


there are not many black girls eather so why black girl with polish guy wouldn't suit to this film?

 
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  Jul 2, 08, 11:19  #740

Perhaps because of the obvious discomfort this type of relationship causes to some. A topical subject and will probably be an interesting programme

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  Jul 2, 08, 13:13  #741

VaFunkoolo:
there are not many black girls eather so why black girl with polish guy wouldn't suit to this film?

It could suit this film but it is more difficult to find a Polish guy with a black girl who would have the same stressing and problematic situation as a Polish girl would have in relation with black guys. but I am also interested in Polish guys and black girls if their case is interested enough, so if any one knows a couple like that please let me know or rather let them know so they can contact me.

 
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masks98
  Jul 7, 08, 13:46  #742

Film Maker:
I also happened to be familiar with both Polish culture and a little bit of black culture as well,


lol, whats "black culture"?

 
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Zgubiony
Edited by: Zgubiony  Jul 7, 08, 14:00  #743

Prob the stereotypical US "Hip hop" culture or African culture? Who knows.

.....they (some establishments) do classify it as "black music" in Poland :)

 
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masks98
  Jul 7, 08, 14:02  #744

yea I listen to hip-hop, but I hate that it gets called blac culture, cuz then people look at me dissapointed when they see that I dont have a gun, that i walk and talk in a regular manner

 
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Zgubiony
  Jul 7, 08, 14:07  #745

Hahaha, wait, you don't? ;) Shucks.....

I think people just don't know what to call anything anymore. I'm comfortable with my black friends, so we mess around a lot, but I think some people just don't know. I live in the NY area, so I was brought up with a mix of friends. White people get nervous to say the wrong thing....and I'm sure you notice this soimetimes.

 
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masks98
Edited by: masks98  Jul 7, 08, 15:13  #746

yeah a lot of the liberal yuppies in New york try too hard to be politically correct, it pisses me off, they're so patronizing, blacks complain a lot but its actually easy to get ahead in new york if you;'re black, because they expect so much less. There are racists of course but there are also too many patronizing liberals. I used to hav`e people make a point of showin g their support for barak obama in front of me, i used to tell them I was voting for Giuliani, it's like their pubic hairs fell off when I said that haha.

 
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Zgubiony
  Jul 7, 08, 15:18  #747

Hahaha, I can see this happening :) It's all good though man. It makes for some excellent comedy when delivered proper :)

 
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EbonyandBathory
  Jul 8, 08, 18:03  #748

Why is Hip-hop considered "Black culture" when 90% of it's audience is white?

 
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  Jul 8, 08, 18:13  #749

EbonyandBathory:
Why is Hip-hop considered "Black culture" when

there's jazz, blues, soul, funk, disco, reggae, soca, countless African styles from palm wine and hilife to mgqashiyo and South African a capella music, Latin styles such as Samba, Cumbia, Merenge and Salsa, stretching from Argentina to Mexico and beyond...

 
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Zgubiony
  Jul 8, 08, 18:15  #750

EbonyandBathory:
Why is Hip-hop considered "Black culture" when 90% of it's audience is white?

Where did hip-hop/Rap originate? Yeah, many white people listen to some (including myself), but I still think we should recognize it's origination.

Is it a bad thing that it's considered "black culture"? It is successful and influential, no?

 
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