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guest3 [Guest]
  Dec 25, 06, 23:23  #91

Pardon the spelling it is late here...

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josecitomadera [Guest]
  Dec 28, 06, 07:09  #92

Quoting: guest3, Post #90
Thats Puerto Ricans... I don't know your culture. I know my culture has been fighting to preserve itself for the last 1000 years. Now once we have thrown off the communists and we have no more enemies form the outside, ignorant poles seem to devalue the importance of their culture. Right now Polish people are their own worst enemey. They are failing to preserve the culture they have fought for all along. Why fight for it if you are just gonna give it up in the end?


You're a reasonable human, guest3. I'll agree with you on the point that cultural preservation is a good thing. My point being that though Puertoricans mix freely for centuries there are still many blonde hair blue eyed puertoricans. If you need proof I'll post pictures here of my own family. I don't know of anyone that doesn't find that pretty.

Black and brown puertoricans always say that the white, blonde, green or blue eyed puertoricans " son muy lindo". That they are so good looking. You know if you had more Poles who where mestizo, mulatto and black they would actually look up to the lighter fairer ones as special. At least that's what happens with latinos.

If everyone is blonde and blue eyed where is the mystique of it? It's just another one of the whole. With the mix you get the interest perked up.

Quoting: guest3, Post #90
You get "scared" because you are ignorant and don't understand the difference between Hitler's racil superiority plan and a people's cultural preservation.


Like I said earlier I'll agree with you on the cultural preservation thing. If I gave the impression otherwise, I make a full retraction. Guest3, is the situation that dire? You are 40 million strong. Are all 40 million negating their Polish heritage for baggy jeans, malt liquor, and P Diddy, 50 cent and Usher?

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josecitomadera [Guest]
  Dec 28, 06, 07:13  #93

Quoting: Arien, Post #64
they're not exactly respecting women over there. I think we can safely state this without getting accused of being a racist.


I agree. I never was defending murderers, rapists and psychos. Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq and many Eastern countries have alot of work to do before they can enter the civilized world. But not all citizens of these ccountries agree to these ways. Let's not blanket judge an entire race of people for the lunacy of a few.

Keep these psychos out of Poland, Europe and any civilized country.

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josecitomadera [Guest]
  Dec 28, 06, 07:23  #94

Quoting: guest23543, Post #89
*Standing ovation applause*


ThanX, can a culture save itself without intervention?

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bartek
  Dec 29, 06, 02:12  #95

Black soldiers in Polish army :
http://www.poloniatoday.com/blacksons0404.htm

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DobrzEbony [Guest]
  Dec 31, 06, 21:58  #96

People, having just excitedly ushered in the New Year with great cheer and delight, this forum has depressed the hell out of me. While I love Krysia and Maati's spirit, the truth is probably closer to what 'Guest3' has been posting. Nationalism, Conservatism, Racism, call it whatever. The fact is, most Polish think the way Guest3 does. I'd say the majority are even worse. I'm black and adore Poland. I ADORE POLAND. I've never had a racist experience here in Poland, Warsaw, Krakow, Wroclaw, Gdansk - anywhere. But I am very receptive to opinion and body language and I'd say black folk are considered to be an inferior, but tolerable race. You see it in their eyes and hear it in what they say almost every social situation. I have been lucky, but that's because I speak fluent Polish. But watching fellow black men here who don't, struggling with prejudice and extreme intolerance leads me to conclude that no matter how many blacks there currently are in Poland, the Poles will always be intolerant of a black face. The funny thing, they also don't even have to be in Poland to do it. In West London, there are many Polish cafes and bars where I can stop business dead into an erry unnerving silence by simply walking in and speaking. No it's not just innocent curiousity or even nervous embarrassment, it's a lot more foreboding and unsettling. This is in happy, clappy, cosmopolitan London!!!! Nothing will ever stop me loving Poland, but attitudes like Guest3's may stop me from going anymore if it gets worse. I'm not saying he's right or wrong, but life's too short to take the risk of possible attack. Maybe best to construct a new era of Black/Polish relations here in London. Anybody want to help me build this....?

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Jasiu [Guest]
  Jan 1, 07, 06:40  #97

Quoting: DobrzEbony, Post #96
Anybody want to help me build this....?


go for it

Having grown up in the depths of souf london in an area famed for its diverse mix of ethnic vibrancy i now live in a south coast city devoid in many respects of the *black influence* i grew up with... mores the pity...

if you feel that you can construct a new era of Black/Polish relations in London then great... i am behind you 100%... but sadly i feel that in many parts of the uk where poles have settled they are going to encounter attitudes displayed by locals towards blacks that are not far off from what you have described above...

correct me if i am wrong... please...

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innEbony [Guest]
  Jan 9, 07, 23:03  #98

Please, D tell us more about your experience. How are u fluent in polish ? Well in fact I have so many things to ask you ... how did u get to Polska ? Why? When? How much time have u been there?

I am planning to live there for a little while (szczecin, gdansk, krakow, wroclaw, warszaw, itd). Do u know those regions ? How is the life of a black man there? Do we have to live inside dark-only communities ? How is the life out of these communities ? The process of making native polish friends ? Acceptance for work ?
Well let me stop here ... I just crazy about everything :-)

thanks!

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krysia
  Jan 10, 07, 00:10  #99

Quoting: innEbony, Post #98
Do we have to live inside dark-only communities ?

No! Of course not! You're allowed to walk down the streets and ride the tramwaj.
Many Poles know there are students from different countries studying in Poland and they don't have a problem. They know you are a foreighner and probably don't speak Polish and they respect that. Some are proud that other countries are interested in Poland, but some might not be.

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BialaPolska
  Jan 10, 07, 00:41  #100

Try not to meet any Polish Skinheads, they will crack your head open.

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Superman [Guest]
  Jan 10, 07, 02:25  #101

Quoting: BialaPolska, Post #100
Try not to meet any Polish Skinheads, they will crack your head open.


Just for no reason at all? I hope they are smarter than that

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Giles [Guest]
  Jan 10, 07, 12:55  #102

No definately not. They will because you are there. On a serious note, they are dangerous especially in groups. These guys are not a joke. The whole skinhead scene is out there underground and over and it is not a joking buisness. To give you an idea, the skinheads often recruit members from the football hooligans, and the mafia often recruits its nutters from the skinheads. Be cautious.

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Ranj
  Jan 10, 07, 13:00  #103

Quoting: Superman, Post #101


Quoting: BialaPolska, Post #100
Try not to meet any Polish Skinheads, they will crack your head open.


Just for no reason at all? I hope they are smarter than that

Unfortunately, Superman, there are racist idiots everywhere---I can't say for sure, but I assume a Polish Skinhead would be no different from an American Skinhead----small brains and only using violence to feel superior!


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krysia
  Jan 11, 07, 00:59  #104

And the only requirement to be attacked by a skin-head is that you have to look different.

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josecitomadera [Guest]
  Jan 11, 07, 07:25  #105

Quoting: Ranj, Post #103
I can't say for sure, but I assume a Polish Skinhead would be no different from an American Skinhead----small brains and only using violence to feel superior!


These are the true UNTERMENSCH. The skinheads are the subhumans. Using violence against another group solely because of skin color are things that subhumans do. Are the Polish skinheads affiliated to the Russian and German skinheads?

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Patrycja19
  Jan 11, 07, 08:03  #106

Quoting: BialaPolska, Post #100
Try not to meet any Polish Skinheads, they will crack your head open.


I hate skinheads, what even posesses them ?? it baffels me.

when I see them on tv screaming white supremeacy <~I lose it!!

because their plans go beyond just keeping it all white. and I cant stand people
who think they are the supreme beings!

Life in itself is Supreme. no matta the color.


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Patrycja19
  Jan 11, 07, 08:13  #107

Quoting: Ranj, Post #103
a Polish Skinhead


Ranj, this is true about small brains for Polish skinhead.<~still baffeled on that.
after all the history, knowing what happened. how could anyone even
want to be a part of that ? what they stand for?

anyone who can harm another human being over their color has no brains.

this issue came up on my dads side of the family. needless to say, I dont include
him as part of the family, due to his stupidity.

I never met him. nor would I ever.


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professor [Guest]
  Jan 11, 07, 12:03  #108

Absolutely white people are on the verge of extintion and nobody cares especialy alot of stupid white people who seem to ashamed of there culture because the mistakes some of our ansesters (once apon a time) well I say ******** if you dig deep enough you will see every culture has a checkerd past along with a checkerd present. If your white be proud we have basiclly invented modern sociatey. and we have done nothing to any culture that there own people havnt done to them or sombody else. White culture is worth preserving

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Patrycja19
  Jan 11, 07, 12:17  #109

Quoting: professor, Post #108
White culture is worth preserving


life is worth preserving.


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Uncle_Vania
  Jan 11, 07, 12:24  #110

I think none of you want - Poland become a new France with 20.000.000 muslim arabs and ************* like thay say)


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Interesting [Guest]
  Jan 11, 07, 12:34  #111

You all think that people who want to preserve the white identity (race) have small brains. It is infact the opposite, you have small brains because you ignore that we are in fact different and that we should be proud of who we are.

Quoting: Patrycja19, Post #107
Ranj, this is true about small brains for Polish skinhead.<~still baffeled on that.
after all the history, knowing what happened. how could anyone even
want to be a part of that ? what they stand for?


After all what happenned? The Nazi's wanted to eradicate the Slavs. All those Polish and Russians died in order to preserve the white slavic identity. They were not just dying for freedom and culture. They (at least the poles) were dying and fighting to preserve the Polish people, who are slavic and white.

So by mixing you are the ones taking the role of the Nazis. You are diluting this identity and this culture. So you are infact the ignorant ones becuase you don't see that you should be proud of who you are.

Rascist? I would expect every race to preserve their identity. If you don't, then what does that say about the self respect you have.

Don't quote history to support the fact that Poland should be open to everyone. Because Poland has survived thus far by excluding other people. Learn your history. The Turks, Mongols, Swedes, Germans, Russians have all been pushed away. If not, then we would not exist as a people.

Small immigration is OK, but we should not ever get to place where more than 5% are non-white. This is europe after all. Not Africa or Asia. If all these white people started showing up in Africa that would not be cool. Oh, wait I forgot, thats called colonization and was seen as a great evil. Same applies to Poland. You all are so liberal that you are the extremists!

How many Poles died to preserve what you are now giving away and trading in. You are a disgrace.

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Patrycja19
  Jan 11, 07, 12:35  #112

The way I see it. if someone is brought up a certain way, and they prefer their own
whether it be polish, arab, irish, etc. that is fine. but if someone says to me, hey
we want to preserve White people. ok, so do it.

what they heck are they going to do? you have billions of people all around the world
how in the heck is the white race going to die?

were not endangered species. and you cant implant every woman with a diaphram
to stop her from having kids.

if a person of polish culture wants a polish man or woman, that is good. same for
arab, african, etc. people will be people. they find attraction in another culture
its unstoppable. and sometimes, telling someone only makes it worse. you tell
a whole bunch of teens to not date people who are of different color. see what
response you get.

I like men with red hair, more burly, and doesnt have to be my culture.
so my husband has red hair, tall, burly. that was what I was attracted to.

whats his nationality. Arabic, Irish, and German. guess what, his grandpa is
full arabic. , and he looks like me. regular, fair skinned, and just a all around
nice guy. my husband has really fair skin, cant go in sun without getting scorched!

the theory of carmel color people is way off. someone needs to stop drawing
cartoons.


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Interesting [Guest]
  Jan 11, 07, 12:36  #113

Quoting: Patrycja19, Post #109
life is worth preserving.


What the hell does that mean? I am not talking about killing anyone. We want to preserve the white race. This does not mean destroying other races.

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Ranj
  Jan 11, 07, 12:41  #114

Quoting: Interesting, Post #113
This does not mean destroying other races.

Tell that to skinheads and all the other Hitler Youth!


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Interesting [Guest]
  Jan 11, 07, 12:42  #115

Quoting: Patrycja19, Post #112
what they heck are they going to do? you have billions of people all around the world
how in the heck is the white race going to die?

Were not endangered species and you cant implant every woman with a diaphram
to stop her from having kids.


You don't know the facts. There are Billions of people, but very few white people. We are the minority.

In fact, every other race population is increasing, but in every country in the world the white population is falling. Learn the facts. For example the average Polish family only has 1.3 kids. Same situation in all of europe. The only people in europe who are reproducing are brownies.

You are not citing logic you are citing love. People who are more mature and educated tend to make decisions based on both logic and love. If you are proud to be white and proud of who you are you tend to pick the same mate. Sorry hun.

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Patrycja19
  Jan 11, 07, 12:43  #116

Quoting: Interesting, Post #113
What the hell does that mean? I am not talking about killing anyone. We want to preserve the white race. This does not mean destroying other races.


are you joking, people are attacking people over their race. where you been
locked up?

skinheads for one. so when I hear we want to preserve the white race
that sounds to much like supremists.

I hate supremists. so anyway, what is your point?

keep olga away from rashid? lock up the key and or what?

Im just trying to find justifcation in people saying how they will convince the
world that the white race is turning brown. its been going on for years interracial
marriages. thats why I say, what is your plans? because I find it a bit whacko.


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Amathyst
  Jan 11, 07, 12:43  #117

its all down to preference P and what floats ya boat and what brings on that little light bulb in ya head...I think in Poland they have not been fully exposed to all nationalities they (not all - possibly a minority) form a view on a certain thing based on image rather than experience.......none of us are full anything if we trace our roots back far enough....Personally I dont have to trace my roots that far back to know this...


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Interesting [Guest]
  Jan 11, 07, 12:44  #118

Quoting: Ranj, Post #114
Tell that to skinheads and all the other Hitler Youth!


I don't agree with the skinheads. This is the typical comment of a brainwashed multiculturalist. Having any pride in your race results in mass extermination? How is that logical? Don't be so stupid.

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Patrycja19
  Jan 11, 07, 12:51  #119

Quoting: Interesting, Post #118
Don't be so stupid.


oh please shut up. calling us stupid when your on here trying to convince
people.

A , your probably right. I agree. and sometimes it gets out of hand like this.


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josecitomadera [Guest]
Edited by: josecitomadera  Jan 11, 07, 12:51  #120

Quoting: Interesting, Post #111
If all these white people started showing up in Africa that would be cool.


Now that's an idea.

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