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Crow
  Dec 8, 07, 14:24  #1

David Cameron: Army must halt Russia threat

By James Kirkup and Alex Spillius in Washington

Last Updated: 2:29am GMT 30/11/2007
telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;?xml=/news/2007/11/29/ncameron129.xml

Let me make it clear: there could be a new crisis in the Balkans by Christmas," Mr Cameron will say in a speech to the Brookings Institution, a Washington think-tank.

"That is a direct threat to our national security, and we must therefore take decisive action now to prevent it. We need to reinforce the military presence in the region now, by drawing on some of Nato's dedicated operational reserve, to prevent trouble later."



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BubbaWoo
  Dec 8, 07, 14:32  #2

interesting

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Avalon
  Dec 8, 07, 14:45  #3

mmmm!!!...but do I change my Sterling for Zloty or wait until we are using Rubles?

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Crow
Edited by: Crow  Dec 8, 07, 14:52  #4

Quoting: BubbaWoo
interesting

It was just to give picture that situation getting uglier

observe now this informations...


UK supports Kosovo independence

6 December 2007 | 10:49 | Source: Beta
b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2007&mm=12&dd=06&nav_id=459 73

LONDON -- The UK’s Minister for Europe Jim Murphy says that his country will support Kosovo independence.

The minister told Albanian-language BBC that “Britain will recognize Kosovo when the time comes.”

NOTE: `time` for what?

Serbian PM warns of creation of NATO puppet state

6 December 2007 | 12:49 | Source: Tanjug
b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2007&mm=12&dd=06&nav_id=459 77



LONDON -- PM Vojislav Koštunica feels that, should the U.S. recognize Kosovo independence, a puppet NATO state will be formed.

America used Islamists to arm the Bosnian Muslims

The Srebrenica report reveals the Pentagon's role in a dirty war

Richard J Aldrich
Monday April 22, 2002
The Guardian
guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,688310,00.html

Arms purchased by Iran and Turkey with the financial backing of Saudi Arabia made their way by night from the Middle East. Initially aircraft from Iran Air were used, but as the volume increased they were joined by a mysterious fleet of black C-130 Hercules aircraft. The report stresses that the US was "very closely involved" in the airlift. Mojahedin fighters were also flown in, but they were reserved as shock troops for especially hazardous operations.


Just think for the moment.... Can anyone imagine dimensions and proportions of scandal if events and facts prove that Serbs are absolutely right all the time???!!!

In that case, people of world would have absolutely new perception of situation in International relations. Nothing would be same again.


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joepilsudski
Edited by: joepilsudski  Dec 8, 07, 15:00  #5

Let me make a few points: 1) The UK, as a nation has no national security issues
in Kosovo...2) The UK is a Zionist/'Illuminati' controlled nation, just like the US, and the financial interests that rule the UK, headed by the Rothschilds and their sattelite financiers, and to a lesser extent, the German Saxe-Coburg-Gothe family, AKA the House
of Windsor, most likely have financial interests/schemes for the Balkans, for example, the Trbcka mining complex in Kosovo, and a possible oil pipeline, to bring Rothschild oil out of the Middle-East & Central Asia...3) Kosovo is a transit point for Afghani heroin into Europe thru the Albanian mafia...4) The Labour Party in the UK was nearly bankrupt before the ascent of Tony Blair, but was bailed out by a Rothschild bank, and Blair came to power...5) the underlying tension with Russia is caused by the desire of the Rothschild family to control Russian natural resources; all of the 'Russian' oligharchs were
Jewish, and served as fronts for Rothschild interests in Russia i.e. Berezovsky, Abramovitch, etc...6) these 'oligarchs' still reside in luxury in the UK, even though Russia
has an arrest warrant out for Berezovsky and has requested his extradition...7) when you hear the Labour Party or the Conservatives speak, they speak for the Rothschilds;
under Conservative Thatcher, the UK government pushed through various large 'privitization' schemes all benefitting the Rothschild banks.

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osiol
  Dec 8, 07, 15:14  #6

Quoting: joepilsudski
The UK is a Zionist/'Illuminati'

So is your bunker.


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joepilsudski
  Dec 8, 07, 15:19  #7

Quoting: osiol
So is your bunker

You need to study history & turn off the BBC, unless it's for football.

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osiol
  Dec 8, 07, 15:26  #8

Quoting: joepilsudski
You need to study history

I've read a few history books, thankyou. None written by rabid anti-Jewish writers though.

Quoting: joepilsudski
turn off the BBC

I have been listening to some world music, looking forward to the reggae show at 10.
I trust their news more than 'some bloke on the internet who blames Jews for everything'.


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joepilsudski
Edited by: joepilsudski  Dec 8, 07, 16:53  #9

Quoting: osiol
I have been listening to some world music, looking forward to the reggae show at 10.
I trust their news more than 'some bloke on the internet who blames Jews for everything'


The BBC used to be great back in the 1990's...you actually got hard news, great music (jazz, classical & John Peel)...but now that it is 'Zionized' all you hear about is how the UK & the US must fight 'terror'...and the music stinks, too...and, by the way, where in my post did I use the word 'Jew' or 'blame the Jews for everything'?...I know you are smarter than that!

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Crow
Edited by: Crow  Dec 9, 07, 01:56  #10

Quoting: joepilsudski
joepilsudski

I don`t think that only Jewish magnates has their interests in this or that they pushing things here. They are maybe involved, maybe not in this particular issue but facts suggest other powerful centers as generators of crisis.

We need to remember that crisis in Balkan in last 15 years went out of control and was pushed in direction of bloody Civil War when Germany cut political dialogue and recognized Croatian and Bosnian independence before process of peaceful state dissolution was finished. Then, other countries of so called West entered into crisis to support Germany, then, Islamic factor followed and just on the end Israel.

What we see from latests news is that Britain sinking in new war, and wants to open a new front.

Mr. Cameron statement is really odd to me: `Russia [is] sparking a new European war.` All that Russian side has said on issue is that Russia shall not allow anyone to violate the territorial integrity of Serbia, nor Internationally defined order. In any case, the Kosovo protectorate is the result of the NATO aggression of 1999. Therefore, how can somebody say, "Russia [is] sparking a new European war?" The situation was caused by William Jefferson Clinton, not by anyone in the Kremlin!

Only one threating region here are USA, Britain, Germany, Turkey, Albania, NATO.


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Crow
Edited by: Crow  Dec 9, 07, 02:49  #11

Quoting: Avalon
Rubles

When you mentioned...

Nezavisimaya Gazeta
en.rian.ru/analysis/20071203/90754896.html

``Russian state monopoly Gazprom may soon join the club of opponents of using the U.S. currency in settlements for gas supplies....``

``"We are seriously considering selling our resources for rubles," the company's deputy CEO Alexander Medvedev said on Friday. Gazprom's Corporate Finance Department head Andrei Kruglov added that the change would happen anyway, sooner or later. ``



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Puzzler
Edited by: Puzzler  Dec 9, 07, 04:43  #12

Quoting: Crow
Britain openly for confrontation: Army must halt Russia threat


- Russia is a threat to Europe's unity. Russia's today tendency is to control Europe and break its unity, e.g. by bullying and harassing its former colonies in Europe, such as Poland. I know that Serbs regard the Russians as their allies and friends, so although I like and understand Serbs, I still am sceptical about the Russians. I think they have been using Serbia for their own benefit - to divide and have a strong foothold in Europe. Europe must halt Russia's threat, including Russia's manipulating other European countries, such as Serbia, and Russia's trying to talk some leading European countries, especially Germany, into a political alliance with Russia. And Serbia should and must become a peaceful and prosperous member of the European family. The rest of Europe and Serbia must make peace with each other as soon as possible. Many wrongs have been done to Serbia. All these wrongs should be set right urgently.

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Crow
Edited by: Crow  Dec 9, 07, 05:32  #13

Quoting: Puzzler
possible German-Russian alliance into which Russia seems to be trying to talk Germany.

Forget about German-Russian alliance and dirty games behind back of Poles but, also behind back of Serbs, too.

It was possible when Russian nobility had obligations to German nobility, it was possible while Russia wasn`t ruled by Russians, while Russia was overrun by communism. After all that was possible when balance inside of Slavic world was destroyed because of Turkish penetration in Europe and after creation of German satellites deeper in Slavdom.

But, today when Serbs recuperate, when in greater part of Slavic world democracy spread, Russian intelligentsia and society won`t mistake and fall into treachery- for sure.

Not to mention that part of Serbian intelligentsia has ideas, considering German involvement in destruction of Yugoslavia and Serbia, that Serbia as state now must (using all available diplomatic means) support separation of Lusatia from Germany and create situation that Germany must retreats from all territories which still could be considering as Slavic. Only opening of those questions would provide that any aggressive German moves (demands) in direction of Poland and Balkan, look like something ridiculous.

In other words, in moment when Serbs concentrate and seek to combine interests with other Slavs in order to strengthen positions of Slavic world for good, any attempt of some Russian politician to make secret deals with Slavic foes would directly lead in isolation of that politician and could even destabilize Russia from inside.

Serbs coming back and Russians are aware of it


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Crow
Edited by: Crow  Dec 9, 07, 12:50  #14

I can inform auditorium that recent anti-Serbian medial hysteria and actions of Britain and USA initiated real eruption of emotions among Serbs. I am happy that I can confirm that among Serbs there is no hate on those countries and their citizens but, those countries now absolutely lost any trace of their historic credibility among Serbs. Once we were in alliance, today administrations of those countries ride with mujaheedines and trying to destroy Serbs, fighting for German and Turkish interests.

In short, sum up of that what I sow on TV and on the Net, would be... Serbs would defend their holly ground on Kosovo, there is no debt about it. Nothing can`t change that fact. NATO and mujaheedines would be pushed back.

Himna Kosovskih Junaka [you tube]
pl.youtube.com/watch?v=dXW0449JDrM

Anthem of Kosovo heroes (based on original medieval song from Tzar Lazar`s preparations for Kosovo battle in 1389)


People speak about full mobilization. If come to that, it would be first full mobilization in Serbia after WWII. Serbia never was fully mobilized during crisis in former Yugoslavia (during Civil War).


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southern
  Dec 9, 07, 13:20  #15

Crow do you think Russia will help Serbia militarilly if an invasion in Kosovo takes place?

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Crow
Edited by: Crow  Dec 9, 07, 15:56  #16

Quoting: southern
Crow do you think Russia will help Serbia militarilly if an invasion in Kosovo takes place?

Serbs won`t wait for Russia anymore. Serbs would arise and rebel against protectorate imposed on them by NATO, no matter what would Russia do. Level of humiliations dealt to us reached maximum, from long time ago. Later would come the time for Cafe and pubs (as, if?)

Once I was ready to criticize Russia because Russia hesitate to help us more openly but, now i think, Russia should be very careful, not to mistake like in the WWI when Russia without any preparations entered into war 1914 when Austro-Hungaria and Germany attacked us. Our brothers should make enormous preparations to avoid that Russia lost millions of lives again. And Serbs, what to tell you brate, it`s our turn obviously. At least, other Slavs would see our blood spilled by NATO in alliance with mujaheedines. NATO isn`t aware of it, but NATO already lost credibility among Slavs. Somehow, moral victory is already ours. If Christ is upon us, maybe we managed to push NATO when NATO (USA, Germany, Britain, France) face enormous casualties

If you now ask Czechs (Protestants) and Slovaks (Catholics) what they think about NATO, our brothers and sisters would already choose to support Serbs. Slovak government almost collapsed when in Slovakian parliament was discussion about possible recognition of Kosovo independence by Slovakia. Conclusion was that attitude of official Slovakia must be- no actions against Serbs. Somebody tried to present Orthodox Serbs as anti-Catholics to Slovakians but, Slovak patriots were clear- Orthodox Serbs always were our brothers, never betrayed us and Slovakia shouldn`t betray them. Slovaks remembered our mutual solidarity during time of Hungarian occupation.

Serbian president visited Czeska and got support from Czeska, too. Czeska remembered what Serbs did for Slavic cause and liberation of Slavs from Austro-Hungarian rule. Czechs remembered that we were with them in 1968, that we found strength to resist to Soviet hegemonic pressure, that we received many Czechs (Slovaks, too) refuges in 1968.

Slovenia, also starting to switch on Serbian side, no matter that Slovenian officials are still disoriented. Slovenians now feel shame because they turned their back to Yugoslavia and left Serbs alone. They are now overrun with public discussions in case with events in case with dissolution of Yugoslavia. They has great problems with hostile Croatia and, now Slovenians starting to think what would be if Serbs stop to exist as political and military factor on Balkan. They now reminded themselves how Serbs helped them in WWI, how our victorious army pursued Austrian troops to the Vienna, when our army confronted Italy because of freedom of our brothers and sisters from Catholic Slovenia, Istria, Dalmatia, Croatia, Slavonia (don`t confuse it with Slovenia or Slovakia).

Bulgarian public support Serbs absolutely and it already can went out of control for Bulgarian government. Macedonians today knows that without Serbs they don`t have chance to resist to Greater Albania. For both- Bulgarians and Macedonians, Serbia was constant example of resistance during Turkish occupation. We didn`t give them to die. Our blood mark every step of Southern Slavdom and Western Slavs remembered us as Racowie (no further comment).

Lusatians, our wounded brothers, they gave us more then we ever deserved, even when we field to help them (we were weak in our own problems). They gave us commanders and volunteers when even God forgot on us. Thousand deaths for German state won`t be enough to repay them that what they did to Lusatians.

Then, it`s just the matter of time when would Poles awake but, I can tell to them same as to Russians- be careful Poles, very careful, play game with NATO and prepare yourself for time when you strengthen enough and when you would need to defend your way of life and dignity/future of your children.

Support us morally brothers and sisters and pray for us because it`s our turn. And, learn and don`t believe in BS about Serbs that THEY present to you. Maybe, memory what you have about us, is last what would you have from us because we soon maybe go there where many Slavs already were sent from greedy and hostile foes- in oblivion and slavery

To THEM, I can only say- NEVER AGAIN HOUSE OF SLAVERY!


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marek s
  Dec 9, 07, 19:53  #17

Quoting: Crow
Serbs won`t wait for Russia anymore. Serbs would arise and rebel against protectorate imposed on them by NATO, no matter what would Russia do. Level of humiliations dealt to us reached maximum, from long time ago. Later would come the time for Cafe and pubs (as, if?)



i hate to say it, but if nato gets involved with any fighting, you asses will get kicked again

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Firestorm
  Dec 9, 07, 19:59  #18

Quoting: joepilsudski
by the way, where in my post did I use the word 'Jew' or 'blame the Jews for everything'?...I know you are smarter than that!


Quoting: joepilsudski
all of the 'Russian' oligharchs were
Jewish, and served as fronts for Rothschild interests in Russia i.e. Berezovsky, Abramovitch, etc...



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ShelleyS
  Dec 10, 07, 08:17  #19

Quoting: Crow
Crow


Its quite sad that someone who has lived through such bad times in his country is all to ready to invite it with open arms


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Crow
Edited by: Crow  Dec 10, 07, 13:12  #20

Quoting: marek s
if nato gets involved with any fighting, you asses will get kicked again

ohhh, just whole nato. That would be compliment, again

And yes, please don`t forget mujaheedines plus. Only question is who would be logistics to whom there

Quoting: ShelleyS
ts quite sad that someone who has lived through such bad times in his country is all to ready to invite it with open arms

it`s not Serbs who don`t like to live and prosper in peace. Those are our foes who attacking and pushing us. And, then again yes, it`s us who like to walk with dignity and we all know dignity has it`s price. Always had price and always would have, from beginning of time to the eternity

Serbia still seek for peaceful solution but, it`s obvious that we won`t give up from 1/5 of our territory, old- spiritual center of our people, place where our blood many times was spilled for Slavdom and for Europe

Serbian prime-minister Koštunica proposes new rounds of negotiations about Kosovo, Belgrade

9 December 2007 | 10:56 | Source: B92, Tanjug
b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2007&mm=12&dd=09&nav_id=460 37

BELGRADE -- Prime Minister Vojislav Koštunica Saturday urged further talks on Kosovo's future status.

The proposal to continue negotiations on Kosovo's status should not be rejected, Koštunica told Tanjug, and voiced Serbia's readiness to start new negotiations "in any town in the province, and then in Belgrade."

Lavrov blames U.S. for Kosovo deadlock

b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2007&mm=12&dd=09&nav_id=460 42

9 December 2007 | 11:15 | Source: B92, Tanjug

MOSCOW -- Sergei Lavrov says some Western countries, primarily the U.S., "are the main obstacle to a Kosovo compromise".

Ponoš: Army ready for different scenarios

9 December 2007 | 15:23 | Source: FoNet
b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2007&mm=12&dd=09&nav_id=460 50

BELGRADE -- The Serbian Army (VS) is carefully monitoring the situation in Kosovo and the south, CoS Lt. Gen. Zdravko Ponoš says.



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Filios1
  Dec 10, 07, 13:15  #21

Crow, I know this is a bit off topic, but do you know why the last Euro qualifying match between Poland-Serbia was boycotted by Serbian fans? The only fans there were 5,000 people who made the trek from Poland. Was this a simple boycott to the Serbian national team, or something more?


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Crow
  Dec 10, 07, 13:23  #22

Quoting: Filios1
Was this a simple boycott to the Serbian national team, or something more?

Thank you for asking. It`s always batter to ask before wrong conclusions

as a brat to brat (if you are Pole) i telling to you that this was exactly boycott to the Serbian national team. Serbs are greatly disappointed with gems of our representation. Even before game with Poland, we already lost chances to continue in qualifications.

:)


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Filios1
  Dec 10, 07, 13:27  #23

Quoting: Crow
exactly boycott to the Serbian national team.


Ok, that is what I understood, but I thought that it might have been some issue between our countries. Good to hear it was a team boycott, and nothing more.
Quoting: Crow
as a brat to brat (if you are Pole) i telling to you that this was exactly boycott to the Serbian national team.


Yes I am Polish :) And thanks for your answer fellow Slav


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Crow
Edited by: Crow  Dec 10, 07, 13:28  #24

Slovakia under pressure but still resist to be involved in mutilation of Serbs

Slovakia: "Hard to imagine" recognizing Kosovo

4 December 2007 | 14:03 | Source: B92, Beta, Tanjug
b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2007&mm=12&dd=04&nav_id=459 29


Slovakian PM Robert Fico- not satisfy with increasing pressure on Slovakia

BRUSSELS, BELGRADE -- Slovakian PM Robert Fico doubts his country would recognize a unilateral declaration of Kosovo independence.


Thanks Slovaks, thanks children of Mother Slavia


Quoting: Filios1

Quoting: Crow
exactly boycott to the Serbian national team.


Ok, that is what I understood, but I thought that it might have been some issue between our countries.

what issue between our countries? We never had problems. You mean NATO? Forget about that, Serbs are aware that Poles aren`t happy in this situation. We are all victims of our greedy foes and our own failures

between us would always no matter all be only one thing and I mean on memory on Racowie factor, something pure good, proof that Catholic and Orthodox Slavs can do IT together. That was/is our mutual gift to Slavdom, Christianity, to this treacherous Europe

But, there are rumors that Serbs preparing enormous peaceful demonstrations in front of embassies and consulates of Slavic countries, in Belgrade.


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Filios1
  Dec 10, 07, 13:43  #25

Quoting: Crow
But, there are rumors that Serbs preparing enormous peaceful demonstrations in front of embassies and consulates of Slavic countries, in Belgrade.


For what reasons? For support? Please explain.


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Crow
  Dec 10, 07, 13:54  #26

Quoting: Filios1

Quoting: Crow
But, there are rumors that Serbs preparing enormous peaceful demonstrations in front of embassies and consulates of Slavic countries, in Belgrade.


For what reasons? For support? Please explain.

for support in case with Kosovo issue on the first place. For other suggestions, our Slavic brothers aren`t ready


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blackadder
  Dec 12, 07, 06:04  #27

Quoting: marek s

i hate to say it, but if nato gets involved with any fighting, you asses will get kicked again


of course they will.for all harm done to my country and me,i still hope serbs won't lose kosovo.you know why?because i want them to live with albanians in one state,so they will never have time to push their noses in other peoples business.

Quoting: ShelleyS
Its quite sad that someone who has lived through such bad times in his country is all to ready to invite it with open arms

shelley my dear you aren't informed,and that's ok.you see,his country didn't seen war at all.only few weeks of strategic bombing.so he like to talk his revolutionary sh..,because he didn't seen what war is.it's not a videogame,or action movie.it's a nightmare.war changed us all.my country was bombed and attacked for 5 years constantly,i spent my childhood an schooldays hid in a basement.radio stations educated us,because it was too dangerous to go to school in croatia.so he suffered a sh..


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Crow
Edited by: Crow  Dec 12, 07, 12:17  #28

USA ex Secretary of Hate – love story

with KLA terrorists Hashim Tachi. Child of that monstrous love should be Greater Albania
Proof by exhibiting an example:




When I remind myself that little Jewish girl Madeline Albright was saved by Serbs in WWII, I must admit that God has strange sense for irony. Especially when we know that most devastated town in Serbia during NATO bombardment was exactly town where lived and still live family which save her and her loved ones

Thanks Mrs Madlena


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cezarek
Edited by: cezarek  Dec 14, 07, 08:22  #29

Quoting: joepilsudski
The UK is a Zionist/'Illuminati' controlled nation, just like the US, and the financial interests that rule the UK, headed by the Rothschilds and their sattelite financiers,


If I thought you were even half sensible on this issue, I'd cry, but as it is one can only laugh.

If 'the Jews' are trying some sort of secret conspiracy, history has shown that it's been spectacularly unsuccessful.

Usually the right answer is the most obvious one. There are no conspiracies!!

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Kilkline
  Dec 14, 07, 09:05  #30

Quoting: cezarek
If 'the Jews' are trying some sort of secret conspiracy, history has shown that it's been spectacularly unsuccessful.


Tut, tut Cezarek, you havent been paying attention! Apparently even when the Jews are persecuted and murdered it is all part of their plan for global domination, as they are merely engineering such scenarios to gain sympathy.

This therefore means that when Jews are killed and persecuted it is proof of their conspiracy. When they are successful is further proof. In fact even when they are just sort of mediocre it means they are just being sneaky and keeping a low profile.


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