British aggression and anti-Polonism or Polonophobia .

Never in the field of human conflict was so much bile generated by so few to so few

Chill people

I like some of English, but is forum is plently of subjects like English versus Poles, polonophoby, innuendos about our intelligence or appereance blah blah blah, why mainly by English? I've noticed here intelligent guys, not alway they are agree with us, but they use constructive arguments so I DO NOT speak with ppl with unknow profiles who slaging at us, and telling stupid things. Thanks Peter for disccuss. Thank you all INTERESTING ppl here

yea, so much that i HAD to create my own p1ss take one as i felt left out

Thank you for your help to to Poland then Sorry that we didn't do nothing for you

LOL it was the Americans bailed the UK out

Oh? could you tell me more about it? Any place to talk in NORMAL way? to dissccuss without looking at my legs and telling that they proof lack of my intelligence? :O

yeah, its in the most recent list somewhere?

The nodding dog, oh yes! Let's hope that this is the end of it, not the beginning of the end of it, but actually the end of it. No victory parade for you though Szarlotka! Nothing personal though mind.

Just give me a Polish girl and I'll be happy!

blonde with average appereance and lack of intelligence like me i.e.??

oh, but why?

cos he aint down wit OPP...

Come off it, your fricken gorgeous!!

Well, everyone else went off topic with the whole Britain & Poland issue, can get back to it?

BTW, I'll say it again there is little animosity in the Uk against the Poles, especially considering the numbers involved. There are 400k French people in the UK, never mind other nationalities.

First of all, Britain SUPPORTED the sadistic tortute of million Slavs in Ottoman Turkey, including the burning of 5000 women and children alive in the Batak church. Then, after finally our Russian brothers helped us free from Islamic torture, Britain took 3/4 of OUR territory at the Berlin Congress threw it back to the just DEFEATED Turkey! We fought war after war to retrieve out lands and lost most of out population.That's a historical fact, you have caused the terror and suffering of millions of innocent people(esp Slavs) around the globe. British Museum is made of of plundered artifacts from everywhere you set foot.
Second, you ask me why Bulgar and not Slav. For your information, Bulgarians belong to the southern Slavic branch.
As for emigrating to Britain, Bulgarians prefer US and Canada, not xenophobic Britain. You didn't even bother to help the Poles, when Germany attacked them, despite the prewar agreement signed with Poland and France... If Germany hadn't attacked you, you would move a finger.

you wouldn't...

Of course everything is britians fault, even though those millions of slavs were tortured by the Turkish ottoman empire, not the English. Oh well dont come to us asking for help when the next islamic superpower invades Bulgaria. Judging by the way things are in the middle east, I'd say another world war isn't far off.

So if England are such bad people and did nothing in the war lets look at what bulgaria did in the war.

Hmm let me, that's it, I remember, they Formed an alliance with the Nazi Third Reich! Lets not go into the surrounding slavic contries that bulgaria INVADED!

And then in 1941 Bulgaria DECLARED WAR ON THE US AND THE UK!!

England fights till last soldier............of its allies

can someone remind me who said that?

I think it was Magdushya

getting job here is harder than in uk, thanks to socialism.

Er actually Germany did not attack Britain.Britain declared war against Germany because of the invasion of Poland.As for your own pitiful country Bulgaria everyone knows you went nazi-you even sound proud of it.
It seems some people have been brainwashed by years of propoganda into believing that although Germany murdered 6 million Poles and Russia killed thousands of Poles (both before and after the war) and enslaved Poland these 2 countries are really decent and the real villains (as usual) are the evil British.
The fact is that Britain generates a lot of jealousy due to its cultural and political success throughout the world.For this reason everyone blames their nation's problem on Britain.

Magdushya,you should read this

'Money sent from UK boosts Poland'

belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/article2311771.ece

Everyone's always banging on about Poles working in low paid sectors, bring down wages etc. However, more and more I'm meeting young Polish professionals who are not on the minimum wage, not doing menial and or manual labouring work. I know lots of poles, working in offices and doing jobs other than manual labour. None of these people earn minimum wage and non of them are undercutting potenial English employees. Lurid media tales of violence are to be ignored. If we believed the media, then just about every 14 yr old in London is a gang banging, gun totting nutcase. Not true.
Yes people will attack Poles, but these same people would attack English, or French or whatever. The violent idiots, will be violent idiots regardless of their victims nationality, sexuality or colour.

Given the Polish immigration into this country the scale and timeframe within which it has happened, it is comprehendable why certain sectors of society are grumbling.
But this group essentially, low skilled, low educated, white working class; they dislike any foreigners as foreigners compete for their workplaces. I.e unskilled menial and factory work. This same English social group grumbled when the Indian and Pakistani immigrants came in the 1970's and 1980's.
No doubt they will moan even more when the Bulgaria and Romania enter the UK work market.
The irony is this if "there's no room" or "not enough jobs" etc were true then how come so few Polish are on benefits?
The nature of the Uk economy is one which demands immigrant labour, it has been for a longtime, ever since we reliquished our colonies. First it was internal migration ( northerners going south), then localized migration(Irish immigrants), then from our old colonies, etc etc.

people never seem to mention how many UK residents leave the UK each year. Its always about incoming peoples never outgoing.

Actually I gonna go and check the figures.

I've lifted this from the National statistics bureau, I'm we aware of the fallibility of such groups, however, this is to just to highlight the migration point.

What is worth remembering is also how many people in 2005, retired from, were invalided out, died and or other reasons for leaving the UK work market.

Anyway here'sthe article below.

In 2005, an estimated 185,000 more people entered than left the UK for at least a year. This net in-migration was lower than the 2004 estimate, but was higher than the estimates for all other years since the method to estimate Total International Migration began in 1991.

The estimated outflow from the UK of 380,000 sustained the high level of out-migration seen in recent years. This was equivalent, on average, to over 1,000 people a day leaving the UK to live abroad, over half of whom were British citizens.

Although slightly lower than the 2004 estimate, the number of people arriving to live in the UK remained high at 565,000 in 2005, an average of over 1,500 a day.

The pattern seen in recent years of net in-migration of foreign citizens and net out-migration of British citizens continued in 2005.

An estimated 198,000 British citizens migrated from the UK in 2005. Once again Australia was the most preferred destination for British citizens migrating abroad, followed by Spain and France.

Overall, an estimated 64,000 more A8 citizens migrated into the UK for at least a year than left in 2005, compared with 49,000 in 2004.

A8 citizens migrating long-term into the UK increased by over 50 per cent from 52,000 in 2004 to 80,000 in 2005. This increase can be explained by 2005 being the first full calendar year following the date of accession in May 2004 for which migration by A8 citizens could be estimated.

Long-term outflows of A8 citizens also increased notably for the first time in 2005 but trends in migration outflows will not become clear until future years. Almost 80 per cent of this outflow occurred in the second half of 2005.

In 2005, IPS estimates showed that more Polish citizens migrated into the UK for at least a year than citizens of any other foreign country. An estimated 49,000 Polish citizens migrated into the UK in 2005, almost three times the 2004 IPS estimate of 17,000.

So the point was that more people are arriving than leaving - also those that are leaving to go and live in Spain and France are usually retired.

BTW the figures are unknown as to howmany A8 immigrants there are in the UK so you can double those figures and probably come up with a more likely figure.

Quote:
Marcin Korolec, under-secretary at Poland's ministry of economics, said: "The statistics show that the transfer from Polish people working abroad is something like €6bn a year.

"Obviously this is a huge amount of capital, a huge amount of flow. It has an impact on internal consumption and internal growth."

Remittances from abroad are now worth almost 2.5 per cent of the gross domestic product of €250bn.

Cool.

A London cabbie writes:

I say send everybody back home unless they take at least 5 cabs a week.

I 'ad that Lech Walesa in the backof me cab the uver week.

I think many of the young Polish in the Uk and ireland, who are sending money back are the people truely underpinning the Polish property boom. effectively these people are creating a new genration of Polish society, that owns there own houses, speaks at least two languages and has life experience outside of Poland. All very beneficial for Poland.