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Magdushya
  Mar 6, 07, 08:56  #211

However these time UK is not superkingdom so cannot to do a lot in world's politics

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szarlotka GOLD MEMBER
  Mar 6, 07, 08:58  #212

Quoting: Magdushya
However these time UK is not superkingdom so cannot to do a lot in world's politics


Nobody would argue against that Magdushya.

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Magdushya
Edited by: Magdushya  Mar 6, 07, 09:04  #213

try to understand me, just wanted to highlight Poland was your friend why do you still moaning about us? so we are useful here or no, working for low wages or overqualified? sometimes i see here arguments too contrary to themselves

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Giles [Guest]
  Mar 6, 07, 09:16  #214

Ok you are not wrong Magdushya, however, politics doesn't control the world. Money does. Here are some simple reasons why the UK small little place that it is has such a dispropotionate effect on the world stage. The UK like Israel, is a mecenary state.
That is to say, a hired gun both financially and militarily. hence our presence in most world warzones. The UK political elite is subservient to its US political paymasters, who inturn are subservient to their ruling elite. The ruling elite comprises ironically enough of many English/American families, some Christian others Jewish.
The Uk supplies huge amounts of arms and know how and personel worldwide.
To fully understand power and the control of it, you have to understand what amilitary-industrial economic complex is. Within which is an understanding of how the Wests economic system is perpetuated. With out war in the the Third world, there is no first world.
Its all an illusion. So the conclusioni s that the Uk has still a huge influence on geopolitics, but maily through corporations and PMC's.

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Giles [Guest]
  Mar 6, 07, 09:17  #215

Hell, I love the Poles, my missus is one, the more Poles the better as far as i'm concerned.

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Magdushya
  Mar 6, 07, 09:32  #216

but 3rd word do not buy advanced technology's weapon, this less advanced Poland sells to i.e. India

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Magdushya
Edited by: Magdushya  Mar 6, 07, 09:34  #217

but difference is 3rd world do not buy advanced technology weapon, this less advanced poland is selling i.e. india

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Giles [Guest]
  Mar 6, 07, 10:06  #218

We the reason the less advanced countries are sold less advanced weapons, is so the more advanced countries have the more advanced weapons....get it.

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ogorek
  Mar 6, 07, 10:22  #219

Quoting: Giles
We the reason the less advanced countries are sold less advanced weapons, is so the more advanced countries have the more advanced weapons....get it.

nahh...they just can't afford more advanced weapons. Can buy oat with money these days if you got it

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Annia [Guest]
  Mar 6, 07, 10:28  #220

Quoting: ogorek
nahh...they just can't afford more advanced weapons


I would depend on how much debt they want to get in to.

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Giles [Guest]
  Mar 6, 07, 10:45  #221

nothing depends on what they (third world client state) want. rather what the corporations decree.

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Patrycja19
  Mar 6, 07, 13:07  #222

Quoting: ogorek
nahh...they just can't afford more advanced weapons. Can buy oat with money these days if you got it


its not that they cant afford it, no one will show emm how to use it. they can
buy all they want, but without the skills to use it, its worth crap!

so they use what they know how to use, and those third world countries (some)
are richer then dirt.

Personally, I wouldnt send or sell them nothing, but of course someone has to keep
emm happy - like giles said, its all controlled what they can buy and what they cant
buy, but even so, they still need to learn what they have, ya cant put a how to
booklet in a box and expect everyone to read it ..... lol

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ogorek
  Mar 6, 07, 13:11  #223

Quoting: Giles
rather what the corporations decree.

you mean ... THE ILLUMINATI !!!!! (gasps of shock/horror)

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ogorek
  Mar 6, 07, 13:21  #224

... reminds me of that 'Super Gun' to Iraq inquiry in UK

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peterweg
Edited by: peterweg  Mar 6, 07, 13:47  #225

Quoting: Magdushya

Quoting: Giles
The emergence of the war economy and the USA's drive against the old colonial world order.

Quoting: Giles
Giles


yep, and this order of world was finished with IIWW


The British Empire did not disappear after WW2, control of it was simply switched to the USA. Nowadays the Empire is called Globalisation. The British Empire was never an military empire, it was a political and economic one, using the British pound to control it. After the war the Americans demand that the US dollar becomes the reserve currency, Britain was in such dire financial straits that it agree to it in return for a loan to buy food.

This has been called the biggest political mistake in history.

Its possible that Iraq may exceed it in destroying the US, but we shall see.

Britain and the US continued to work together the so called 'special relationship' that some people claim has no benefit to the UK but actually is. Britain is the greatest trading nation on earth, thats where its wealth comes from - buying and selling.

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ogorek
  Mar 6, 07, 14:16  #226

Quoting: peterweg
thats where its wealth comes from

Others would say Britain got rich from slavery

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szarlotka GOLD MEMBER
  Mar 6, 07, 14:20  #227

Quoting: peterweg
Britain is the greatest trading nation on earth


By what criteria are you claiming this PW?

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peterweg
  Mar 6, 07, 14:25  #228

Quoting: ogorek
Others would say Britain got rich from slavery


Banned in Britain in 1772, the colonies in 1808. Two hundred years without slavery when the vast majority of Briitains wealth was made. The period of the industrial revolution when machine replaced man.
The same sweeping statements could apply to any country were the poor are virtual slaves or actual slaves. Peasants in Poland were no more than slaves as were the poor in Russia. North African countries captured a million white slaves from Italy to Ireland over hundeds of years. The USA had a effective slave system in the chain gangs even after the civil war. Slavery existed in feudal Britain in the 12th century, if not before.

Until the industrial revolution all wealth was gain from some sort of from human 'slavery'

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peterweg
  Mar 6, 07, 14:29  #229

Quoting: szarlotka
Quoting: peterweg
Britain is the greatest trading nation on earth


By what criteria are you claiming this PW?


A statistical comparison of all countries economic ratios that I read last year. It was a huge document and I don't know if I can find it again.

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szarlotka GOLD MEMBER
  Mar 6, 07, 14:31  #230

So greatest meant the highest proportion of GDP or similar coming from services and trading as opposed to absolute values I suppose. Not that difficult with the manufacturing base we now have

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ogorek
  Mar 6, 07, 15:51  #231

Quoting: peterweg
The period of the industrial revolution when machine replaced man

The foundations of the Industrial Revolution were built with the wealth gained from slavery - the factories didn't just appear. Yes other countries had slave systems also and UK was still sponging off it's empire until WWII. It's not good for any country to boasts great wealth & trading skills after benefiting from a dishonorable start-up.
Quoting: peterweg
Peasants in Poland were no more than slaves as were the poor in Russia

Peasants in any country are not slaves - they are just poor. You could say I'm a slave - I have to get up work hard all day - follow the rules, otherwise I'd starve.

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daffy
  Mar 6, 07, 15:56  #232

Quoting: ogorek
Peasants in any country are not slaves - they are just poor. You could say I'm a slave - I have to get up work hard all day - follow the rules, otherwise I'd starve.



hehe this is me too!


work all day and still have an overdraft in the bank! i get back SFA!!!!

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Annia [Guest]
  Mar 6, 07, 16:00  #233

Quoting: ogorek
benefiting from a dishonorable start-up.


I see from your profile you are living in a country with such a terrible reputation Gasp Horror, Oh my word how do you sleep at night

Quoting: ogorek
The foundations of the Industrial Revolution were built with the wealth gained from slavery


England traded in many things around the world, I wouldn't say that slavery was main income of the country, at that time we had much to export and the importation of goods such as raw cotton and silk were in high demand, hence the reason we had so many factories weaving these raw materials ready for sale around the world.

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North Pole [Guest]
  Mar 6, 07, 16:06  #234

Hey, you are talking about yourselfs, not polish immigrants. geee... now this is funny

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peterweg
  Mar 6, 07, 16:15  #235

Quoting: North Pole

Hey, you are talking about yourselfs, not polish immigrants. geee... now this is funny


But some of us are Polish and British. And lots of the people here are Poles living in Britain.

So its still on topic.. kind of.

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Annia [Guest]
  Mar 6, 07, 16:25  #236

British agression rears its ugly head when people attack England and bring up really old arguments which to be quite frank bore the pants off me and makes we wonder why people are living in such a godforsaken place when Poland is so perfect.........yorn!

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daffy
  Mar 6, 07, 16:36  #237

ANNIA! pleae register it would be great to have you here fulltime!

I think Polish/English aggression as this topic is called is IRRELEVANT in the 21st C.

That BOTH parties are guilty of one transgression or another!

cant we all just get along prosze?

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ArturSzastak
  Mar 6, 07, 16:44  #238

Quoting: szarlotka
Britain is the greatest trading nation on earth



Its definitely China my friend. More exports come out of China than any other country in the world.

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ArturSzastak
  Mar 6, 07, 16:44  #239

I was just quoting you Szar, didn't want to look for his. Sorry I'm lazy

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Grzegorz_
  Mar 6, 07, 17:08  #240

Quoting: ArturSzastak
More exports come out of China than any other country in the world.


It used to be Germany, I'm not sure If they are still first, but It's rather not China, not yet.

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