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Are British people really interested to integrate with Poles?


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buyyko
  Sep 9, 07, 08:51  #1

YO! I know there is a lot of English who are complain of the weak integrate between polish and British. But so often (especially in pubs) you can be in a situation when you are gonna to begin chat, that going well until you say were are you from.

 
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Ronek
  Sep 9, 07, 08:52  #2

sounds intresting, tell me more, did you have personal experience like that?

 
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buyyko
  Sep 9, 07, 09:32  #3

Yes. have a lot of personal experience. For example in one of pubs in leicester, i was begin to have a nice conwersation with a english girl. When she asked me about my nationality and i said im from poland. she just said -see ya, and have a nice party.
Another example is form my work. There is a team of seven people four of them are british and three are polish. our relations are very good, they are always happy to help with evetything, we are well suited to each other team. But there is no chance to go out together. To pub or any party. i have no idea why is like that

 
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Michal
  Sep 9, 07, 09:33  #4

I do not think that the British have anything against the Poles as such, I certainly do not. I think that England is used to many people from all over the World coming to this country, though I do know of some people who feel that we have enough. I find it strange as in fact it is the Poles who do not want to mix much and keep themselves to themselves except for some of the women who possibly want a ready built house and Birish passport waiting for them!

 
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osiol GOLD MEMBER
Edited by: osiol  Sep 9, 07, 09:40  #5

Quoting: buyyko
When she asked me about my nationality and i said im from poland. she just said -see ya, and have a nice party

It's probably best for your sake she left it at that. B****!
There are better people out there. Most of us, I'd like to think.

Quoting: buyyko
But there is no chance to go out together. To pub or any party

I have spent much of the last year working with a group of Polish blokes.
The only reason we never had more than just one beer after work was because
they had so far to travel and some of them had second jobs in the evening.

I think it depends on where and who you are. Most people find it easier to integrate when they are on their own
and not with a large group of people from the same country as themselves.

 
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Lady in red [Guest]
  Sep 9, 07, 09:42  #6

Quoting: Michal
except for some of the women who possibly want a ready built house and Birish passport waiting for them!



.......shame you had to add this onto your paragraph.......cos it read ok and then you have to start knocking women again. It's an old fashioned stereotype image you portray here. It's very, very outdated and women aren't interested in that !!

I would even dare say that the majority of women are self supporting and independent........


.......did anyone let you know we live in the year 2007 :)


lol

 
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Daisy
  Sep 9, 07, 09:43  #7

Quoting: osiol
It's probably best for your sake she left it at that. B****!


I agree

 
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Daisy
  Sep 9, 07, 09:45  #8

Hang around the forum for a while buyyko, and you'll soon learn to ignore Michal

 
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osiol GOLD MEMBER
  Sep 9, 07, 09:46  #9

Suprisingly polite though!
I mean:

Quoting: buyyko
see ya, and have a nice party


 
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tornado2007
  Sep 9, 07, 09:46  #10

Quoting: Daisy

Hang around the forum for a while buyyko, and you'll soon learn to ignore Michal

i second that point :)

 
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_Sofi_ [Guest]
  Sep 9, 07, 12:22  #11

This other thread on a very similar note might interest you:URL
I think it depends on the person you meet - if they are like this girl in the pub, they are not worth your time!

 
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isthatu
  Sep 9, 07, 15:13  #12

Quoting: buyyko
When she asked me about my nationality and i said im from poland. she just said -see ya, and have a nice party.

She may just have figured you would go back to Poland and leave her one day,maybe she couldnt face the eventual rejection :)
Dont take it to heart whichever way though. Try something that all the girls love,the old Polish kiss on the hand,British girls god bless em seem starved of the romantic type lately. "elo luv,wanna shag?" is more what theyre used to hearing in pubs :)

 
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Ranj
  Sep 9, 07, 15:16  #13

Quoting: isthatu
She may just have figured you would go back to Poland and leave her one day,maybe she couldnt face the eventual rejection :)

Good point.....she may have had a bad experience with a Polish man already and projected it onto you....:)

 
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_Sofi_ [Guest]
  Sep 9, 07, 15:17  #14

Quoting: isthatu
"elo luv,wanna shag?"

Not nice, I agree but
Quoting: isthatu
Try something that all the girls love,the old Polish kiss on the hand,

I would be very ...embarassed if this happened! I would not know what to do!

 
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tornado2007
  Sep 9, 07, 15:19  #15

Quoting: _Sofi_
"elo luv,wanna shag?"

classy line ay!!!

Quoting: _Sofi_
Try something that all the girls love,the old Polish kiss on the hand,

i thought that was french??

Quoting: _Sofi_
I would be very ...embarassed if this happened! I would not know what to do!

if a guy kisses you on the hand just take it and smile, be polite

 
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Ranj
  Sep 9, 07, 15:21  #16

Quoting: _Sofi_
I would be very ...embarassed if this happened! I would not know what to do!

You've never had a man kiss your hand, Sofi?

 
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Wroclaw
  Sep 9, 07, 15:21  #17

Quoting: tornado2007
i thought that was french??


It does still happen here, but not very often.

 
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Ronek
  Sep 9, 07, 15:21  #18

Quoting: _Sofi_
embarassed


ok... thats strange.
Kiss on the hand is sign of respect or affection. It's not so common nowadays especialy not in the west but it's far better then "wanna shag?"
Why would one be embarased over a kiss?
Damn I would be emarased to walk to a las in the pub and drop a punchline like "elo luv, wanna shag?"

 
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Ranj
  Sep 9, 07, 15:23  #19

Quoting: Ronek
It's not so common nowadays especialy not in the west

I'd have to disagree with you there, Ronek.....It happens quite frequently in the US, at least that has been my experience.

 
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Ronek
  Sep 9, 07, 15:28  #20

Quoting: Ranj
Ranj


fair enough, I've never been to US. I've based my opinion on the western europe.

 
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tornado2007
  Sep 9, 07, 15:28  #21

Ok i suppose this is on subject, kind of:

to change track a little i want to talk about a situation i find sometimes with Polish people, its something i've never really understood and never asked them about.

I have had a number of Polish friends who have been really nice and polite, good to spend time with, friendly and good friends in the bargain. Sometimes however i find that they all of a sudden become very paranoid, either about the situations they are in or something i may do potentially.

For example there was a girl i knew that was very nervous about letting me come to her house, she had been to my house before there were no problems but when i went round there once she was really nervous and didn't know if she wanted me to go in. I said it was fine and that she didn't have to let me in. The next time i went round it was ok because one of her other friends were there. I asked her why she didn't let me in the first time, i thought it may of been because she felt insecure around me or thought i might try and rob her, rape her hell i didn't know. She told me though it was a big thing in Poland sometimes about letting people into your house.

Another girl i knew once asked me to fix her laptop, i did so with her worrying all the time and she was so unsure whether i was going to do something wrong or mess up her laptop, of course i didn't and it was fixed. however the next day she wanted me to check it again and again. She said hat because it had gone wrong once it made her think it would happen again.

I could go on all night with different examples but i guess my point is, is a trait the Polish have 'being conservative' or 'paranoid'??? or is it in fact that i just happen to have experienced two special cases of deep paranoia??

thanks

T

 
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_Sofi_ [Guest]
  Sep 9, 07, 15:30  #22

Quoting: Ranj
You've never had a man kiss your hand, Sofi?

One actually, but this was a boyfriend of my mothers only, upon introduction, not someone expressing interest or anything.
Quoting: Ronek
sign of respect or affection.

And I would appreciate that completely and be very flattered...at the same time as not knowing what to do..
Quoting: Ronek
Why would one be embarased over a kiss?

I don't know.. it seems very ceremonious or something like that.. old films portray it strangely.
Quoting: Ronek
Damn I would be emarased to walk to a las in the pub and drop a punchline like "elo luv, wanna shag?"

Good to hear :) I do think those who try this line should be very embarassed. I agree it's preferable to have a kiss on the hand than that line, but really I just like a guy to come over and strike up a conversation with me! Less formality!

 
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Ronek
  Sep 9, 07, 15:31  #23

Quoting: tornado2007
tornado2007


Yeah sounds pretty bizzare. But I guess there must be insecure people like that in every nation.

 
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tornado2007
  Sep 9, 07, 15:32  #24

Quoting: Ronek
Yeah sounds pretty bizzare. But I guess there must be insecure people like that in every nation.

yeah kind of what i thought but there was no harm in asking the question

 
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osiol GOLD MEMBER
  Sep 9, 07, 15:33  #25

You can try kissing her hand, but no matter how flattered she is, there's still a possibility she might actually prefer the more modern 'Fancy a shag?' line. However, both in combination really doesn't work.

Not that I've tried.

 
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Ranj
  Sep 9, 07, 15:33  #26

Quoting: Ronek
I've based my opinion on the western europe

That's fair....I will say the Eastern Europeans I have met were more gentlemanly than the Western Europeans I have met (except for my man, of course....he's a sweetheart) :)

 
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Ronek
  Sep 9, 07, 15:36  #27

Quoting: osiol

You can try kissing her hand, but no matter how flattered she is, there's still a possibility she might actually prefer the more modern 'Fancy a shag?' line. However, both in combination really doesn't work.


I've just imagined that sort of situation and almost fell of the chair.

-good morning lovely miss *kiss*.....fancy a shag?

its definately something to start with...

 
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tornado2007
  Sep 9, 07, 15:36  #28

Quoting: Ranj
That's fair....I will say the Eastern Europeans I have met were more gentlemanly than the Western Europeans I have met (except for my man, of course....he's a sweetheart) :)

really i am shocked!!! I love the Poles and Eastern Europe for many things but politeness isn't one of the strong points :) Well those in England i suppose i can only speak about as i've only been to Poland once

 
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Ronek
Edited by: Ronek  Sep 9, 07, 15:39  #29

hmm sounds Torny that you have some intresting stories to tell, please do tell them.
And if we're not polite then what is it that you love Poles for?

 
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Ranj
  Sep 9, 07, 15:43  #30

Quoting: tornado2007
really i am shocked!!! I love the Poles and Eastern Europe for many things but politeness isn't one of the strong points :)

In all fairness, it was on a cruise ship and I found the Polish, Russian and Romanian men more friendly than the English.....of course, I am American, and I know how we are not looked upon favorably by the English. ;)

 
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