Building my Polish vocabulary...

Hi

I'm currently building my vocabulary and i was wondering, roughly, how many words would i need to know in order to:

1) Get a rough idea of what is being said, in polish?
2) Understand most words that are being said?
3) Good solid understanding of exactly what is being said?

I'm learning a minimum of 20 words a day. By mid june i plan to move to poland for a couple of months to accelerate my learning. My understanding of polish grammar is quite good but my vocabulary is very limited.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

There are a lot of good tips in the Language and Grammar area. This site can also be very helpful: langsites.com/Polish.htm

Good luck!

remeber... for every one word you learn in polish you have to remember a hundredfiftynintymillion different endings... and just when you think youve worked out what somebody's name is, you realise that actually everyone is calling them something entirely different...

BubbaWoo is being negative ;P The bright side of this is that when you know one word, you will in fact be able to recongnize quite a few more, as verbs and nouns are similar.
Praca - Work (noun)
Pracować - To work (verb)

And of course the verb inflections are similar:
Pracujesz - You work
Pracuję - I work
Pracujecie - You (plural) work

I'm currently learning words in mianownik form, where possible, and refering to the speaker. I'm not too bothered about gender.

I've currently learnt 60 words over the last 3 days but i don't know if i can keep up the pace. So far i'm just memorising lists, speaking the words to my self so i know how they sound and then ask a polish person at my work to test me. Is there a more efficient technique of remembering words and their meanng than just reading through a list over and over again?

I'm constantly being told, "wez sie do roboty" by the poles at work. I thought roboty = work?

Also, with regards to the verb pracowac, i thought you also have to add the word sie at the end: Pracowac sie. The reason i think this is because i've been told the word for 'smile' is 'usmiech' and 'to smile' is 'usmiechac sie'.

wez sie do roboty - get to work

You can't add sie to word pracowac with regards to this word in meaning - to work -

pracowac is enough and correct ( with no sie )

So i can say "wez sie do pracowac" and it'll mean the same thing?

No, you can't. There is no such an expression in Polish.

If you are a boss and you can see your emplyees doing nothing instead of working, and you want them to start working, then you may say to them: weźcie się do roboty ( get to work). I hope you got the point. My English is not too good, I just try to be helpful.

My best way for learning words is to read a text which I have a translation for in my own language (english for me).

I find that once I start using the cases, I begin to know what the endings to use and when. Still, the case endings on words are the most difficult things for me to get right in Polish.

I also find the cases the most difficult.

For example i would say:

Mowie jezyk polksi; as opposed to mowie po polsku.

The first just seems more logical from an english perspective.

Hal, what you suggest is actually a good idea. I'm learning words but out of context. Problem is, where can i find texts that are written i both english and polish?

Falkin, your english is very good... better that some english people! With saying, 'not too good' it sounds like you've learnt from an American. The only grammatical error you made was, 'There is no such an expression in Polish'. You don't need to say the word 'an'.

I'm still confused with the difference between praca and roboty. Do they both mean work, but in different ways?

Yes, they are both about work. It is only a question of using them in the right context.

Btw, 'robota' comes from the verb 'robić', meaning 'to do'.
When you are describing your job you generally say 'praca'.

'robota' comes from the verb 'robić', meaning 'to do' like "robic loda"

Incase any one was wondering i heard that only 600 words are used in everyday conversation!

My understanding of the two words is approximately Praca=your job, roboty is the actual work.

(Hmm, I wonder what those 600 words are exactly)

There's some paralell polish and english texts here (I ran across these some time back, it took me a while to find them again):
w w w.let.rug.nl/%7Ehoutzage/polish.html
and sounds recordings of the texts in polish here, though the speaker speaks very fast...
h t t p://odur.let.rug.nl/~houtzage/poldownloadsmp3.html

...but together they will give you an idea of how to pronounce correctly and some reading material (with translation) to practice on.
Hopefully they will be of use to you.

The word robota is mainly the general Slavonic word for work as in Russian, 'rabota and the verb 'rabotat'. The English took the word robot from the Slovanic but actually the English word 'robot' was taken from Czech vocabulary. Generally it is always moja praca and ja pracuje dzisiaj. The word robota is really very rarely used in practice. For example, 'mialem tydzien wolnego, a teraz znow do roboty! (I had a week off, and now back to it!). Or chcial zalatwic sobie cos lepszego niz ta jego robota. There is also czarna robota.