I am starting a new business life in Poland (coming from Sydney)

WedleThreads: 24 Posts: 786 Joined: Sep 27, 11 ♂	Nov 27, 11, 20:29 #61
JonnyM: So in effect, you think mimimising offence is a Wedle: cancer Wedle: doing so to an excessive extent. Most ideologies pushed to the extreme are not good for society.

JonnyMThreads: 16 Posts: 4,487 Joined: Mar 9, 11 ♂	Nov 27, 11, 20:33 #62
I don't see the idea of minimising offence pushed to an extreme. No bad thing if it was though. The less offence the better.

WedleThreads: 24 Posts: 786 Joined: Sep 27, 11 ♂	Nov 27, 11, 21:06 #63
JonnyM: The less offence the better. In an ideal world I would agree with you, unfortunately the PC brigade wish us to change our language to accommodate them.

rozumiemnicThreads: 4 Posts: 1,019 Joined: Nov 16, 09 ♀	Edited by: rozumiemnic Nov 27, 11, 21:13 #64
Wedle: unfortunately the PC brigade wish us to change our language to accommodate them. I don't see how saying 'Police Officer' or 'Firefighter' instead of 'Policeman' or 'fireman' could be seen as 'a cancer', these terms merely reflect that these jobs are now done by men and women. Times change, and so do languages.

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Nov 27, 11, 21:22 #65

rozumiemnic:

I don't see how saying 'Police Officer' or 'Firefighter' instead of 'Policeman' or 'fireman' could be seen as 'a cancer', these terms merely reflect that these jobs are now done by men and women. Times change, and so do languages.

Political correctness involves the translation of Marxism from economic terms into cultural terms. The premise underlying political correctness is that if the elite can change the language then they can change the way individuals act and thus change society. Political correctness has corrupted the news media, universities, business, Congress, politics, etc. Declaring that some thoughts and words are “correct” while others are not permits those who are among the correct thinkers to escape free competition of ideas by using threats, intimidation, and force against non-correct thinkers.

This infatuation with sensitivity has spread throughout the media and academia, leading to the creation of feel-good euphemisms which part with accuracy and unambiguity in the interest of feeling and sympathy. Unfortunately, these “linguistic smile buttons” simply camouflage reality rather than change it.

rozumiemnicThreads: 4 Posts: 1,019 Joined: Nov 16, 09 ♀	Nov 27, 11, 21:24 #66
Wedle: leading to the creation of feel-good euphemisms which part with accuracy and unambiguity in the interest of feeling and sympathy. Unfortunately, these “linguistic smile buttons” simply camouflage reality rather than change it. perhaps you could offer some concrete examples of these instead of this pseudo intellectual ranting?

WedleThreads: 24 Posts: 786 Joined: Sep 27, 11 ♂	Nov 27, 11, 21:36 #67
rozumiemnic: perhaps you could offer some concrete examples of these instead of this pseudo intellectual ranting? 'Police Officer' or 'Firefighter' instead of 'Policeman/woman' or 'fireman/woman'

rozumiemnicThreads: 4 Posts: 1,019 Joined: Nov 16, 09 ♀	Nov 27, 11, 21:43 #68
Wedle: 'Police Officer' or 'Firefighter' instead of 'Policeman/woman' or 'fireman/woman' sad

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Nov 28, 11, 00:59 #69

Zachariah:

I must apply for citizenship before I can get a Polish passport is that correct?

Now Zac, you need to hasten to the scene slowly, firstly you don't want to live in a 40 sq unit in Poland, spending your lifetime picking your nose and sipping from a bottle of vodka asking yourself wtf am I doing here, with neighbors on either side/ up and down and drunks causing trouble in the stairwells...If you can't make it happen in Australia you will fail in Poland, You assume you need little capital to start a business in Poland, true but you will get little in return...In regard to Real Estate best to visit and form your own opinion about the property market, a lot of desperate property owners have bombarded this forum spreading nonsense about a property boom in Poland, this is not true...finally with regard to Polish citizenship, you can have both Polish and Australian... start by getting a Polish passport, you will need your parents birth certificate, (proof of birth in Poland) your birth certificate (certified in the form of a apostles) you will then get a pesel and then apply for a passport (process may take up to 6 months) and then apply for a NIP (this is a Tax file no) Good Luck.. Remember you will be living indoors for 8 months of the year due to weather conditions

MagdalenaThreads: 5 Posts: 1,389 Joined: Aug 15, 07 ♀	Nov 28, 11, 11:50 #70
wielki pan: Remember you will be living indoors for 8 months of the year due to weather conditions Really?

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Edited by: Wedle Nov 28, 11, 13:48 #71

wielki pan:

Now Zac, you need to hasten to the scene slowly, firstly you don't want to live in a 40 sq unit in Poland, spending your lifetime picking your nose and sipping from a bottle of vodka asking yourself wtf am I doing here, with neighbors on either side/ up and down and drunks causing trouble in the stairwells...If you can't make it happen in Australia you will fail in Poland, You assume you need little capital to start a business in Poland, true but you will get little in return..

Wielki pan, had a positive experience during his time in Poland. Whats your fav brand of Vodka W.P

Magdalena:

Really?

All that time in London, Magdalena, you must have forgotten life in Poland. April to November you can't go out for fear of being mugged by the drunks, it is only December to March it is so cold the drunks move inside and occupy the stairwells, so you can make a dash from the 15th floor by lift and make a quick exit to Biedronka, Zac, if you want to get a real feel for things in Poland watch ' The walking dead' lol funny W.P

a.k.	Nov 28, 11, 14:38 #72
Wedle: April to November you can't go out for fear of being mugged by the drunks Can you snap your fingers? Drunks are drunk so much that if you snap your fingers they will collapse. Are you really afraid of them? And why they don't mug in May, June, July, August, September and October?

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Nov 28, 11, 14:48 #73

a.k.:

Can you snap your fingers?

Is this joke A.K

a.k.:

Drunks are drunk so much that if you snap your fingers they will collapse

Drunks are people without a brain, they live in a life of oblivion.

a.k.:

Are you really afraid of them? And why they don't mug in May, June, July, August, September and October?

can you read?

Wedle:

April to November you can't go out for fear of being mugged by the drunks

Tongue in cheek old boy.

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Nov 28, 11, 14:56 #74

Hey Big Man,

The main reason for going to Poland is to spend quality time with my grandmother before she passes on. This is very important to me and a priority. I will come for a holiday first then return on a perm basis once I have sorted everything out.

As I have menioned my preference is to be self reliant so I wont have to rely on anyone. Obviously getting into business is a way to do that. As to what exactly, well that is something I have to figure out but I truly feel mentally prepared to give it a real go.

Yes I am very well aware of the extreme weather conditions in Poland. This does worry me a little to be honest haha..

I am really interested to see how people work and how businesses operate during the freezing months.

Thank so much for all the information :)

Zac

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Edited by: Wedle Nov 28, 11, 15:05 #75

Zachariah:

Yes I am very well aware of the extreme weather conditions in Poland. This does worry me a little to be honest haha..

Zac, there is no such thing as bad weather,only the wrong clothing...

Good luck with the trip.

Zachariah:

am really interested to see how people work and how businesses operate during the freezing months.

There is only one nation who are infatuated by the weather, one guess only?

a.k.	Nov 28, 11, 15:14 #76
Wedle: Is this joke A.K No. The small movement of air produced by the clicking move of your thumb chaffing your fingers along will cause a trouble in body balance of a drunk :) Wedle: can you read? Just didn't get the sarcasm but now I've got it :) Zachariah: The main reason for going to Poland is to spend quality time with my grandmother before she passes on. Now this is the argument! :)

wielki panThreads: 3 Posts: 278 Joined: Jan 7, 11 ♂	Nov 28, 11, 22:15 #77
Magdalena: Really? Really truly! you must be the only person who would enjoy a outdoor barbecue or a dip in the ocean in the freezing cold. Wedle: Whats your fav brand of Vodka W.P Not a great fan of Vodka or rather not yet, my life has not yet reached a need to drown my sorrows...

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Edited by: skysoulmate Nov 28, 11, 22:25 #78

wp:

Really truly! you must be the only person who would enjoy a outdoor barbecue or a dip in the ocean in the freezing cold.

I guess I didn't realize Poland had 8 months of freezing cold?? Granted, I was a kid when we moved but the only cold I remember was Zakopane and Karpacz when we went there for winter breaks. Of course, Sweden and now Alaska made me somewhat immune to "freezing cold." We have a warmer than usual November, t's 19F/-7°C here in Anchorage right now but the sun is shining and it feels great.

PS. I'm outdoor. :-)

MagdalenaThreads: 5 Posts: 1,389 Joined: Aug 15, 07 ♀	Nov 28, 11, 23:14 #79
wielki pan: you must be the only person who would enjoy a outdoor barbecue or a dip in the ocean in the freezing cold. I never realised that having barbecues and swimming in the ocean were the only things you could do outdoors, summer or winter. I was so ignorant that I went cross-country skiing and trekking in the mountains instead!

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Nov 29, 11, 00:08 #80

Magdalena:

I was so ignorant that I went cross-country skiing and trekking in the mountains instead!

Great stuff, ok when your young and fit, the point I was trying to make is that the climate the gentleman has in Australia is more user friendly than that in Poland... Winter is nice in its own way in Poland but this young turk has better things to do than gallivanting around the countryside, the dollar is on his mind and making a bucket full in Poland represents a challenge.

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Edited by: skysoulmate Nov 29, 11, 00:17 #81

wr:

...the dollar is on his mind and making a bucket full in Poland represents a challenge...

Really? I thought he made it very clear that his grandmother was on his mind first one foremost? He emphasized several times that money wouldn't be an issue for a while...

zach:

...The main reason for going to Poland is to spend quality time with my grandmother before she passes on. This is very important to me and a priority. I will come for a holiday first then return on a perm basis once I have sorted everything out.

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Nov 29, 11, 01:24 #82

skysoulmate:

Really? I thought he made it very clear that his grandmother was on his mind first one foremost? He emphasized several times that money wouldn't be an issue for a while...

really, what about this!

Hello,

I am 36 yrs of age and have just quit my good, secure job in Sydney because I decided the time is right to move to Poland and explore business opportunities. The immediate plan is to find a job teaching English and/or working for a company who may need people to service their English speaking clients but I will keep an open mind and consider any job to support myself. This should give me a pretty good idea to see how things work there and to familiarize myself on the local customs. I can speak basic Polish which is of course very advantageous but I am keen to improve and I am confidant it will. I also have family there so I won't be totally alone.

My ultimate goal is to setup a little cafe somewhere and build from there. I am also interested in the idea of setting up an import/export company but I will think about this more once I have established myself.

WedleThreads: 24 Posts: 786 Joined: Sep 27, 11 ♂	Nov 29, 11, 01:49 #83
Magdalena: I was so ignorant that I went cross-country skiing and trekking in the mountains instead! I am starting to warm to your sense of humor M.

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Nov 29, 11, 11:59 #84

WL, Sky, you are both right :)

Starting business in Poland is a priority because I need a way to generate an income so I can become self reliant. I just have to figure what the business is going to be and how to go about it.

Achieving my business goals will enable me to stay in Poland longer which means I will be in a position to see my gran all the time.

So in a way you can say I am doing it for both love and money. Now of course there is no guarantee that I will succeed with the business. It might turn out to be the biggest flop ever and dissapointment. If I fail with the business then I fail my gran. This will be on my mind and the driving force.

You will know all about it in 12-18 months if you tune in too this post.

Sorry for any confusion on my part, hopefully the above makes it a bit clearer as to what is motivating me.

Besides, I am curious about Poland and want to experience everything about it. I want to do it now, not later.

Zac

ZachariahThreads: 1 Posts: 33 Joined: Jun 24, 09 ♂	Nov 29, 11, 12:13 #85
Zachariah: WL, Sky, you are both right Sorry that was meant to be WP. Zac

ZachariahThreads: 1 Posts: 33 Joined: Jun 24, 09 ♂	Nov 29, 11, 12:24 #86
Wedle: Whats your fav brand of Vodka Mledosz and you can get it in Sydney! Zac

ZachariahThreads: 1 Posts: 33 Joined: Jun 24, 09 ♂	Nov 29, 11, 12:41 #87
sobieski: I am living now over 7 years in Warsaw, and would not dream of going back to my native Flanders. Never ever considered teaching though. Give me logistics anytime :) Good luck to you :) I am glad to hear, thank you so much :) Zac

ZachariahThreads: 1 Posts: 33 Joined: Jun 24, 09 ♂	May 1, 12, 17:14 #88
Update - I am waiting on my Polish Citizenship to be formalised. I have no idea when it is going to be ready. Hopefully sometime in the next 3 months if not sooner. Anyway still keeping the dream alive. Will post another update soon. Zac

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