Thinking of opening up a Greek restaurant in Poland, bad idea or good? Jenkei

PellasgosThreads: 1 Joined: Feb 1, 11 ♂	Feb 1, 11, 20:34 #1
Djen dobre everyone, my wife is polish and we are thinking of starting a restaurant in Poland with Greek cuisine, I'm not sure which city and how Poles would relate to authentic Greek dishes. Any tips? Thanks again!!

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Feb 1, 11, 20:42 #2

Pellasgos:

Djen dobre everyone, my wife is polish and we are thinking of starting a restaurant in Poland
with Greek cuisine, I'm not sure which city and how Poles would relate to authentic Greek dishes. Any tips?

The problem that you'll have is differentiating yourself from all the crappy gyros places around here. In Wroclaw, there is a chain of "greek" restaurants that do terrible fast food, and a couple on rynek that are mediocre, but at least try to do something more than spinning meat on a spit.

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Feb 1, 11, 20:49 #3
Pellasgos: my wife is polish and we are thinking of starting a restaurant in Poland with Greek cuisine, I'm not sure which city and how Poles would relate to authentic Greek dishes. Any tips? There are a couple of Greek places in Warsaw which seem to be doing fairly well but they are proper restaurants rather than the spinning meat on a stick kind of place.

TrevekThreads: 33 Posts: 2,155 Joined: May 21, 08 ♂	Feb 1, 11, 21:25 #4
There used to be a chain of Greek restaurants, now called greco. Decent and cheap enough. I think a higher class place would be a welcome addition.

warszawskiThreads: 60 Posts: 2,385 Joined: May 21, 10 ♂	Feb 1, 11, 22:35 #5
Pellasgos: restaurant in Poland with Greek cuisine There is one called Santorini Tawerna http://www.kregliccy.pl/santorini.php The family have been involved in restaurants in Warsaw for a long time. Many Poles travel to Greece so I am sure they know the food. You would have to get your target market spot on, of course the location has to be right.

delphiandomineThreads: 42 Posts: 9,954 Joined: Nov 25, 08 ♂ [Suspended]	Feb 1, 11, 22:55 #6
warszawski: Many Poles travel to Greece so I am sure they know the food. It's worth pointing out that the food must be Polonised - Poles are dreadful for whining about food that doesn't have enough salt in for them.

TrevekThreads: 33 Posts: 2,155 Joined: May 21, 08 ♂	Feb 1, 11, 22:57 #7
delphiandomine: Poles are dreadful for whining about food that doesn't have enough salt in for them. Or chopped cabbage and szmalec

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,727 Joined: Mar 10, 08 ♂	Edited by: SeanBM Feb 1, 11, 23:12 #8
Pellasgos: hinking of opening up a Greek restaurant in Poland If you do that, i will open a plate shop next door! delphiandomine: Poles are dreadful for whining about food that doesn't have enough salt in for them. Proof they are not slugs. You could have a "no walking like an Egyptian allowed" sign.

vndunneThreads: 72 Posts: 340 Joined: Jan 12, 07 ♂	Feb 1, 11, 23:31 #9
There was a small chain of greek 'cafes; in poznan doing greek dishes. Was very reasonable and did a good trade.

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Feb 1, 11, 23:43 #10

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The problem that you'll have is differentiating yourself from all the crappy gyros places around here. In Wroclaw, there is a chain of "greek" restaurants that do terrible fast food, and a couple on rynek that are mediocre, but at least try to do something more than spinning meat on a spit.

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Pellasgos:

Djen dobre everyone, my wife is polish and we are thinking of starting a restaurant in Poland
with Greek cuisine, I'm not sure which city and how Poles would relate to authentic Greek dishes. Any tips?

Most Poles frequent foreign cuisine for the exotic quality, the city depends on how much moola you have to dish out, quality vs price and location are you keys here, the fact that its Greek would be considered secondary.

vndunne:

There was a small chain of greek 'cafes; in poznan doing greek dishes. Was very reasonable and did a good trade.

You mean Athens? I bought a schabowy cutlet there, not very greek if you ask me... Was good cheap eating though.

smurfThreads: 46 Posts: 660 Joined: Sep 8, 09 ♂	Feb 2, 11, 00:25 #11
There's one here in Kato too, always looks busy on the weekend but I've never been so I couldn't tell ya if it's any good or not

warszawskiThreads: 60 Posts: 2,385 Joined: May 21, 10 ♂	Feb 2, 11, 00:26 #12
delphiandomine: Poles are dreadful for whining about food that doesn't have enough salt in for them. and side orders of salad.

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Edited by: George8600 Feb 2, 11, 02:43 #13

Congrats, your son will be half Polish and half Greek like me. ^_^

My philosophy is that you only get to live once so do what you love. If out of everything you want to run a restaurant (which is a lot harder than it seems) and if out of all the cultures you like Greek food the most and can best make it (personally I like Japanese food the best) then you should go for it.

The trouble is that with all the few seafood available in the region, and all the other rare commodities which are needed for fine Mediterranean food are too expensive and rare in Poland and their distributors. Hence, most of these restaurants stick to fast food, but fast food sucks, especially if you're passionate about food.

Do you speak ancient Greek? I head a number of good Polish universities are looking for teachers/professors for their classical programs. (Note this is different than modern Greek).

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Feb 6, 11, 23:57 #14

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EurolaThreads: 6 Posts: 2,647 Joined: Dec 2, 06 ♀	Feb 7, 11, 00:07 #15
Grilled octopus anyone? Cold octopus/calamari/shrimp salad? Fish roe? Lamb shank in heavenly tomato sauce with a side of rosemary roasted potatoes and okra? A baked whole fish (with head)filleted at the table? Good luck with this type of menu in a small town. :)

grethomoryThreads: 2 Posts: 212 Joined: Mar 19, 08 ♂	Feb 7, 11, 00:08 #16
Trevek: Or chopped cabbage and szmalec LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL, you are so right. But the ones here in Chicago love this place called Taco Burrito King. Mexicans don't even go there,but the Poles love that cheap Mexican food.

delphiandomineThreads: 42 Posts: 9,954 Joined: Nov 25, 08 ♂ [Suspended]	Feb 7, 11, 00:32 #17
grethomory: but the Poles love that cheap Mexican food. No, the Polish-Americans love cheap Mexican food. The Poles on the other hand are a bit "bleh" towards it.

EurolaThreads: 6 Posts: 2,647 Joined: Dec 2, 06 ♀	Feb 7, 11, 00:40 #18
grethomory: Taco Burrito King. Where is it? I want some cheap Mexican food... BTW, how do you know? Do you go there often? :)

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Feb 7, 11, 21:27 #19

delphiandomine:

No, the Polish-Americans love cheap Mexican food

How would you know, have you ever been to TBK or Chicago for that matter???
I know its just another one of your snide Limey comments against America, so your opinion is worthless as usual.
FYI most Polish Americans dont speak Polish that well, if any, so when you go into a restaurant and all you hear are people speaking Polish, I wonder where they would be from????? Duh!!!

Nice try,,now go bow to your crooked toothed queen and shut up, Puto!

grethomory:

But the ones here in Chicago love this place called Taco Burrito King. Mexicans don't even go there

Theres like 5 of them that I have been too, always see Polish people and Mexicans as well.
Are you sure youre not referring to Taco Bell,,,,Horrible stuff there!
TBK is Awesome!!!

Eurola:

BTW, how do you know? Do you go there often? :)

I do:)
Belmont/Long
Belmont/Harlem
Harlem/ Montrose...I dont like this one
Harlem/Higgins,,,be careful after 2 a.m.
Touhy/ Milwaukee,,,has Piwo!!!
Smacznego!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Edited by: George8600 Feb 7, 11, 21:50 #20

Eurola:

Grilled octopus anyone? Cold octopus/calamari/shrimp salad? Fish roe? Lamb shank in heavenly tomato sauce with a side of rosemary roasted potatoes and okra? A baked whole fish (with head)filleted at the table?

Funny thing is, most French restaurants I've been to have this. Also cold seafood is a thing the French do, Mediterranean's cook it.

delphiandomine:

No, the Polish-Americans love cheap Mexican food.

I'm going to evolve this statement a second time: No, Americans love cheap Mexican food.

Pellasgos, I hope you took my advice to open a Japanese restaurant or my contacts with the Polska mafia will have your fine establishment burnt down.

npellasgos	Mar 3, 11, 10:45 #21
Thank you for all your clues! i am not a rookie in this profession and i actually am from Chicago !! :)) and yes, i know some ancient greek.

orbit21Threads: 1 Posts: 4 Joined: Jun 30, 11 ♂	Edited by: Moderator Jun 30, 11, 22:48 #22
Merged: Starting a Greek shop in Poland... good idea?? hello to all... me and my polish wife thinking to move to poland.... podkarpackie region... i m thinking to start a new business there. a Greek based shop.... any suggestions? do poles like greek cuisine?

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Jun 30, 11, 22:49 #23
They like gyros and some like moussaka

George8600Threads: 20 Posts: 1,114 Joined: Feb 19, 09 ♂	Jul 1, 11, 00:31 #24
I see a lot of Poles here in Greek-town restaurants in Chicago... so maybe? Just don't start another gyros place...be original...go to culinary school even if it's necessary.

teflcatThreads: 6 Posts: 1,071 Joined: May 29, 11 ♂	Jul 1, 11, 06:30 #25
Pellasgos: I'm not sure which city Oh, Białystok definitely. And bring plenty of lamb.

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Jul 1, 11, 12:44 #26

Pellasgos:

Djen dobre everyone, my wife is polish and we are thinking of starting a restaurant in Poland
with Greek cuisine, I'm not sure which city and how Poles would relate to authentic Greek dishes. Any tips?

I live in Poznan and we have three Greek restaurants here. Two of them are just normal restaurants but the third one called Meze is a little bit unusual. It based on small spaces, the same menu for whole year and low prices. It's not usual restaurant because you have to order and pay first (like in eatery) but the food is very good and fresh and it based on original Greek products. You also have to remember about the design, you have to make your restaurant look different than others. In Meze you have modern furnitures (good design but not too expensive) and no traditional greek stuff (like this: http://www.szuki.pl/warszawa-praga-poludnie/restauracje/grecka-tawerna -santorini/recenzja/2070/ ) but the colours are very greek (blue, yellow, white). Young people love this place and I assume they prosper well because they have tho places like this in Poznan and there are always people inside.
So, Pellasgos, you have to have THE IDEA, something original because opening another traditional greek restaurant could be not so good thought.
You can see it here : http://meze.pl/

Good luck ! :)

alexw68	Jul 1, 11, 12:50 #27
EchoTheCat: Young people love this place and I assume they prosper well because they have tho places like this in Poznan and there are always people inside. Seconded - went there last week. The decor was a bit Ikea but hey, it was clean bright and the food was very fresh and not particularly polonized as you sometimes get with non-Polish cuisine. Recommended. Room for more of these, I'd say.

EchoTheCatThreads: 2 Posts: 183 Joined: Jan 20, 10 ♀	Jul 1, 11, 12:54 #28
alexw68: Room for more of these, I'd say. Yeah, this is the same guy who owns Mykonos Restaurant :)

delphiandomineThreads: 42 Posts: 9,954 Joined: Nov 25, 08 ♂ [Suspended]	Jul 1, 11, 14:09 #29
alexw68: not particularly polonized You mean "not laden with salt"? ;) Which was the place that was on Gessler's show?

alexw68	Jul 1, 11, 14:12 #30
delphiandomine: You mean "not laden with salt"? ;) I was thinking more the ubiquitous sweetened cabbage. Goes a treat with burritos, that does. Not.

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