i'm looking to lease a small to medium sized bar in or around krakow.

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jack 1Threads: 4 Posts: 11 Joined: Jun 21, 11 ♂	Jul 4, 11, 20:13 #1
i would also consider investing in an already established bar! i have a wealth of experience in running bars,as i said idealy what i would be interested in is a small to medium sized bar.

SmintiThreads: 4 Posts: 17 Joined: May 23, 11 ♂	Jul 16, 11, 15:14 #2
but the local paper and there are usuall lots of businesses advertised in the classifieds. Often a bit vague in their description (eg you can't tell from the advert if it is a small shop, cafe or bar) but you can tell it is a business, and you have to phone up. Estate agents tend not to deal in commercial property to the same extent as in UK etc hope that helps Greg

jack 1Threads: 4 Posts: 11 Joined: Jun 21, 11 ♂	Jul 25, 11, 13:22 #3
thank you sminti!:)

inkrakowThreads: 2 Posts: 44 Joined: Jan 15, 11 ♀	Jul 25, 11, 14:08 #4
Check out krn.pl and gumtree.pl - current leasees usually advertise there. There are more and more adverts of this kind appearing - everyone is feeling the downturn and the tourists just aren't coming so you should be able to negotiate a good deal on the 'odstępne'.

jack 1Threads: 4 Posts: 11 Joined: Jun 21, 11 ♂	Jul 27, 11, 12:37 #5
thanks inkrakow!:) is the tourist season down alot over there?

inkrakowThreads: 2 Posts: 44 Joined: Jan 15, 11 ♀	Jul 28, 11, 00:43 #6
You're welcome! It's not just "the season" - from what I hear, there are fewer tourists overall. The boom of the noughties is over...

isthatu2Threads: 13 Posts: 5,225 Joined: Apr 3, 08 ♂	Jul 28, 11, 01:14 #7
Could be the breathing space Krakow needs to shake off the "Boozed up Brits " party destination image it was starting to get? I hope so,Im a Brit,and I enjoyed a Vodka or six on many a pleasant night out round the rynek in the early noughties but have avoided returning in over five years down to a certain reputation the place ,and my countrymen,was getting.

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Jul 28, 11, 02:00 #8

It seems that the Brits always fall for the tourist traps. Take the town where I live. Tarnów is small, 120,000 people, but, the "Rynek" has more bars than you can get around in a night. Hotel and beer prices are less than half that of Kraków, clubs are good and the women are as beautiful as you will find anywhere in Poland.
When I go on holiday, South of France or Italy, I never stay in the resorts, always a short drive away, whatever you spend on taxis/transport is always rewarded in savings, and, you spend your night with the locals, not 1000's of other tourists.
Some friends from England came to visit me for 10 days a couple of months ago. Their exact words were "This is a secret that nobody knows about", they loved this place so much that they did not even want to visit Kraków. A good restaurant just off the "Rynek", 2 course meal with Waiter/waitress sevice, 17 zloty, "plat de jour" if you want it in French. After living here for 8 years, even I flinch at paying the prices in Kraków.
If you want to go to somewhere like "Venice", go!!!!......40 euros for a boatride into the city and a cup of coffee, wonderfull, but how many times would you go back there.
Maybe I have lived in Poland for too long, 3.5 euros for a beer on a campsite in the South of France or 1.20 euros for a "PINT" of beer in Bratislava, the same as in TarnówI would like to promote Poland, not fill the pockets of the greedy. Tell the people the truth!!!!!

peterwegThreads: 35 Posts: 1,989 Joined: Feb 16, 07 ♂	Jul 28, 11, 11:17 #9
You can get beer for half price outside the tourist centre in Krakow, its a choice.

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Jul 28, 11, 11:29 #10

Could be the breathing space Krakow needs to shake off the "Boozed up Brits " party destination image it was starting to get?
I hope so,Im a Brit,and I enjoyed a Vodka or six on many a pleasant night out round the rynek in the early noughties but have avoided returning in over five years down to a certain reputation the place ,and my countrymen,was getting.

a few years ago my friends came to visit from Canada. We happened to see a bunch of Brits puking on the monument just outside of the sukienice. shocking.

I have seen that show "boozed up britains abroad" wow!!! I think my favourite was the Bratislava episode.

jack 1Threads: 4 Posts: 11 Joined: Jun 21, 11 ♂	Jul 29, 11, 14:19 #11
tarnow sounds like a great spot will definately check it out!:)

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